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big_aug

Kombatant
NO no no no no no
What other armor doesn't it break?

I've stuffed supers from multiple characters, I've blown up Doomsday's trait, and I've blown up Grundy's armor/super.

What am I missing?

Edit: You can't stuff Superman's super I don't think. It hits too quick. I guess it just depends on how long after the super activation it takes before the hit that starts the animation begins.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
What other armor doesn't it break?

I've stuffed supers from multiple characters, I've blown up Doomsday's trait, and I've blown up Grundy's armor/super.

What am I missing?

Edit: You can't stuff Superman's super I don't think. It hits too quick.
Joker parry all day
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
It doesn't work on any parry. Batman and WW also have one. I was talking about the armor. I suppose it wasn't clear.
i guess what i am saying is its damn near impossible for any bane ive played to come near me. Parry all lvl 1-3 charges and gun down the rest and when he's on me push block
 

big_aug

Kombatant
i guess what i am saying is its damn near impossible for any bane ive played to come near me. Parry all lvl 1-3 charges and gun down the rest and when he's on me push block
Yea, I don't know anything about that. I was just saying lvl 3 breaks all armor as long as you get the first hit.
 

big_aug

Kombatant
yea but nothing breaks parry in the mu

trust me man its bad but by all means lets play it
I totally believe you. I was just saying lol

But sure, I'll play. Keep in mind you're much better than I am.

I'll play some now if you want.

Edit: Even after all this, I'm 100% sure I will charge into parry multiple times lol
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
I totally believe you. I was just saying lol

But sure, I'll play. Keep in mind you're much better than I am.

I'll play some now if you want.

Edit: Even after all this, I'm 100% sure I will charge into parry multiple times lol
I know it looks weird but im just trying to help bane community find answers cause this one will be a big one to look for. Im not trying to down anyone whatsoever just saying im worried about the character as a whole. Cant play right now but maybe tomorrow, had a rough 24 hours w food poison
 

big_aug

Kombatant
What is it with people saying they want to play but then they can't play? Nothing against you Pig, but it's like every fucking person is like "Yo, let's play." Then they either ignore/forget about it or they can't lol
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
What is it with people saying they want to play but then they can't play? Nothing against you Pig, but it's like every fucking person is like "Yo, let's play." Then they either ignore/forget about it or they can't lol
Some of us are married w/kids or have busy lives, really hard to make online commitments sometimes
 

AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
What is it with people saying they want to play but then they can't play? Nothing against you Pig, but it's like every fucking person is like "Yo, let's play." Then they either ignore/forget about it or they can't lol
99% of the time when I'm on the boards I'm really at work And can't do anything
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Honestly against parry characters charge isn't used by any bane worth his salt. Against joker I prefer to bait him into a grab and then blow him up since he can't parry jump attacks and has a sub-par response to semi-late splash, then lock him up with frame goodies. IMO his crowbar is the better tool against bane since he can't be grabbed out of it.
 

big_aug

Kombatant
Ok, I have no idea what to do against a decent Grundy. It's ridiculous. If I even attempt to get close he's using the armored grab (into a string if I'm able to backdash). Jumping in is like... his AA is so good.

I have no idea what to even try.

The only way I've won is by desperately going to lvl 3 venom to stuff his armor and getting something going. Even then, he has armored wakeup grabs and shit so as soon as it's gone, it's bad.

I'm sure it'd be really bad against someone like Fly who is good.
 

AA25Mamba

Batman, Scarecrow, Bane
Ok, I have no idea what to do against a decent Grundy. It's ridiculous. If I even attempt to get close he's using the armored grab (into a string if I'm able to backdash). Jumping in is like... his AA is so good.

I have no idea what to even try.

The only way I've won is by desperately going to lvl 3 venom to stuff his armor and getting something going. Even then, he has armored wakeup grabs and shit so as soon as it's gone, it's bad.

I'm sure it'd be really bad against someone like Fly who is good.
Grundy is tough for me too at the moment. I just try to keep distance and back dash away from the walking corpse, that way it whiffs and you can punish with a double punch or any advancing move at that.

Can Grundy's throws be teched?
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Grundy is tough for me too at the moment. I just try to keep distance and back dash away from the walking corpse, that way it whiffs and you can punish with a double punch or any advancing move at that.

Can Grundy's throws be teched?
Nope but armor negates it since grabs take off a charge of armor. If he tries to WK you, don't be afraid to use some venom towards the end of it. If you snag it just before the grab happens you can double punch and trade out about 7% more than what he deals out. It's all about timing. Aside from that try not to jump in unless you have generous time, his command throw will stuff most of our kit in the air.
 

masuhdunkillyall

Aht Aht Aht!
Made an account just to comment on these here Bane boards. My roomate plays a very solid Green Lantern and gets better everyday, and while my go to for the win is Aquaman, Bane is my second and is also much more fun and challenging. I've been working hard to level my game up with him. Problem is, I feel GL has to be one of Bane's worst matchups. Against a good GL that knows the matchup, its pretty damn hard to get anything at all going.
Any suggestions?
 

big_aug

Kombatant
Doombawkz

So yea, the b1 into double punch owns Grundy pretty bad. I just played a guy who was 1100 and 550 and we went 3-3. I would have won more but I can't hit a wake up to save my life and instead of push blocking I keep trying. Also need to practice that REALLY long knockdown off his throw. I lost entire life bars to one knockdown due to going full retard and not hitting a wake up or just deciding to block.

I'm new to the FGC, but I'm gonna throw this out there. I now feel like Grundy is free to Bane. He literally can not wake up at all. Everything he has gets stuffed. Some of it trades, some of it doesn't (might just be timing). Even if he blocks both the low and the high after, we aren't in that bad a spot. We can STILL stuff him after if he tries to go for a normal and I think we could still stuff another grab. Yes, he could back dash, but his back dash is awful. It's not like it's hard to get back in on Grundy. I'm sure in the hands of a better player, it would be even nastier.

Obviously 1100-550 doesn't mean he's the greatest of all time or anything. And it is online. I'm not all that great either though.
 

RYX

BIG PUSHER
A delayed charge at any Venom level will stuff invincible wake ups like Killer Frost's slide and Lex Corps Charge. Could prove very beneficial to to match ups vs characters like this with damage advantage and hard knockdown.
 

big_aug

Kombatant
A delayed charge at any Venom level will stuff invincible wake ups like Killer Frost's slide and Lex Corps Charge. Could prove very beneficial to to match ups vs characters like this with damage advantage and hard knockdown.
Yea, I've discovered any special will stuff most of these invincible wake ups if timed right. You basically have to eat the attack with armor and then it follows through and hits them. It's best to delay a bit on the pressure if it's someone who likes to hit the wake ups.
 

RYX

BIG PUSHER
Yea, I've discovered any special will stuff most of these invincible wake ups if timed right. You basically have to eat the attack with armor and then it follows through and hits them. It's best to delay a bit on the pressure if it's someone who likes to hit the wake ups.
By the way, use Raging Charge instead of b1 double punch. No grab state and 15% plus knockdown. Unless b.1 DP takes care of other wake ups?
 

big_aug

Kombatant
B1 DP stuffs every wake that Grundy has. It trades with Clever Spin I think which is 3% in his favor (full combo punish on block though). It sometimes trades with WC, but we come out with recovery and follow up. If you delay long enough before starting, you'll knock him down at the end.

The best part about it is you can push b1f2 and get the b1 and the DP lol