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Sasarix

"Heaven Will Fall!"
Exactly. Now not only do we have to watch Cena every week, but he carries around the belt on 1 working foot. Why not have him get jumped by the Shield and have a tournament for it, KOTR style? But no, that's actually a good idea and WWE Creative shys away from good ideas. It's better to have Tensai dance in women's underwear vs brodus and tensai being monster heels. It's better to have ziggler need big e langston AND aj to win matches. They are trying to recreate HBK/Diesel/Sherry and it's just so awful. Ziggler needs to be on his own, or under my lord and savior, Paul Heyman
I agree Ziggler needs to be on his own he is one of the best sellers i have seen in a long ass time but the Big E and AJ thing is bringing him down imo. Punk should be champ again and I have never been a Rock fan so I'm happy with him always losing in some way. He makes the moves look even more fake than they already are. Ryback is a joke but they are determined to shove him down our throat untill ppl start to like him the way they did Orton. HHH vs Brock 1 was awsome, HHH vs Brock 2 was something we didnt need and HHH vs Brock 3 is just dumb.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
HHH and Brock, never liked any of them but 2 was just horrid to watch. Granted, I did love all the suplexes but you followed up CM Punk/Undertaker. Unless this was HBK vs Chris Benoit vs Y2J, you had no chance of topping it. I mean, really, the end of this was horrible. HHH gets the Kimura lock and Lesnar gets out. Then, as we all do in a fight, HE PUTS HIS ARM BACK IN THE SAME PLACE!! I am a former wrestler (not wwe, actual wrestling from high school) and nobody, even the worst and dumbest people, wouldn't put their SAME body part back in the same place when it was caught 2 minutes ago. But wait, it gets better! He escapes the hold and then leaves his arm there AGAIN! I literally ran to the kitchen to pour myself a very tall and triple shot of captain morgan and coke. One of the worst finishes I've ever seen to a DECENT match. And naturally, Cena would not sell a single move from the Rock (Cena is the ONLY guy to give the rock bottom a problem. What a shock) which made it all the worse to see

Oh and it's supposed to be Rock/Lesnar for WM30 next year so if you don't like Rock you might not be too happy. Rock even confirmed that was supposed to be this years main event but nobody knows due to his injury now. Lesnar/CM punk makes no sense and is no way believable. Would love to see Lesnar/Roman Reigns at one point
 

Tim Static

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The number one problem today is lack of competition for the WWE. TNA is not mainstream, so the WWE can produce the same old, same old (i.e., Super Cena for ten consecutive years) and get away with every mistake.
Agreed 150%. Absolutely nothing pushing the WWE to strive to be better. No one else pushing the boundaries and keeping it fresh. When WCW died, i knew this would happen. It sucks. HH & company are trying their hardest with TNA, but its just not good at all.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
Agreed 150%. Absolutely nothing pushing the WWE to strive to be better. No one else pushing the boundaries and keeping it fresh. When WCW died, i knew this would happen. It sucks. HH & company are trying their hardest with TNA, but its just not good at all.
HH made TNA WORSE and I didn't think that was possible. They have the Dudley Boyz, arguably the greatest tag team of all time, running around like sons of anarchy jerkoffs. You have 3 people in the X division. The ONLY thing going for it is what they are doing w/AJ Styles. Obviously they are doing the exact same Sting angle from WCW but it's somewhat entertaining right now

Tim, the only way to enjoy the new era is to not compare it to the old cause trust me, I'm w/you, I miss the old days but they aren't coming back. Not as long as there are so many shareholders in the WWE. Attitude era, ruthless aggression, all gone. There is a better chance of Clay Fighter being at EVO
 

Tim Static

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HH made TNA WORSE and I didn't think that was possible. They have the Dudley Boyz, arguably the greatest tag team of all time, running around like sons of anarchy jerkoffs. You have 3 people in the X division. The ONLY thing going for it is what they are doing w/AJ Styles. Obviously they are doing the exact same Sting angle from WCW but it's somewhat entertaining right now

Tim, the only way to enjoy the new era is to not compare it to the old cause trust me, I'm w/you, I miss the old days but they aren't coming back. Not as long as there are so many shareholders in the WWE. Attitude era, ruthless aggression, all gone. There is a better chance of Clay Fighter being at EVO
haha yea. i only said trying their hardest lol.

But yea man, i'm good at not following the current product. I have many other things to occupy my time, but I still go out of my way to watch the classics when i can, especially on Netflix. Its a part of the fabric of my life, even if it currently doesn't do anything for me these days.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
To be fair to TNA, they do put on a pretty awesome show live. I saw them for the San Antonio PPV where Buh Buh Ray turned heel (I'll never call him Bully Ray). I was in the row where Hogan and Brooke came through (I patted him on the back)

I also got pics of me meeting D-Von Dudley (mad cool, we talked ECW for about 20 minutes), Bobby Rhoode, Hernandez (very nice guy, does a lot for the TX independent scene) and Earl Hebner (curses more than anybody, hilarious guy).

I posted pics on instagram if you guys wanna see look up anthonynca83
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
haha yea. i only said trying their hardest lol.

But yea man, i'm good at not following the current product. I have many other things to occupy my time, but I still go out of my way to watch the classics when i can, especially on Netflix. Its a part of the fabric of my life, even if it currently doesn't do anything for me these days.
I watch the rise and fall of WCW once a month. I have been hooked on watching the ladder matches, mostly volume 2 and 3. RVD vs Jeff Hardy, the Dudleyz/Edge Christian/Hardys is my favorite overall match of all time, Y2J vs HBK, HBK vs Razor Ramon. Miss those days:(
 

Sasarix

"Heaven Will Fall!"
I will still be happy cause Rock has said twice since his last match that he was done for good this time and that the last match with Cena was most likely the last time he will get in the ring. Also the Undertaker streak is getting old as shit now he needs to suck it up and pass the damn torch already like he should have to Punk.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
I will still be happy cause Rock has said twice since his last match that he was done for good this time and that the last match with Cena was most likely the last time he will get in the ring. Also the Undertaker streak is getting old as shit now he needs to suck it up and pass the damn torch already like he should have to Punk.
People would have rioted if he passed it to Punk. Punk really doesn't need it. If it wasn't going to HBK it sure as shit shouldn't go to anybody else and I really like Punk. I would have been ok w/either one winning, but it wouldn't have ultimately made too much sense. Undertaker is putting over the Shield now left and right which is awesome (WWE hasn't screwed up the Shield yet thank god)
 

EvilNonsense

steals your stuff
My BIGGEST issue w/WWE is all their heels are the same. CM Punk is good and all, but he has to be a coward and can't win clean, it's BS. Look at what they did to Ziggler (don't care he's WC he's in a horrible feud right now)/Cesaro/Barett. It's just tragic. STRONG heels helped the WWE and look at the nWo. Heels make money
I can't agree with this more. A strong villain makes for a strong hero. Rhodes Scholars, Titus O'Neil, Cesaro, and Barrett have all been horribly mishandled. Especially Cesaro and Barrett. Give them titles and then have them lose every week. Brilliant!
 
so how threatening is supes at mid screen? i find that i can back dash his projectiles at full screen. so why is considered overwhelming?
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
I'll go as far as to say the Ruthless Aggression era was better than the Attitude era, simply because the wrestling was better and it didn't feel like an overkill plethora of kneejerk reactions to whatever WCW was doing. And vice versa for that matter, which is what ended up doing them in. I think by about 2006 or so however it kind of dawned on the creative that they're doing more than they really need to, most of the roster on high salary were expendable, and could just settle on matches that were well-worked rather than book wrestlers that actually had a believable chance of winning. IIRC Finlay, yes, Finlay was booked in three PPV main events in a row by the end of the year.

That, IMO, was the beginning of Supercena, because of the unprecedented cash cow that was the Spinner belt (I loved it as much as much as the next guy at first, but it should have never of come back after his first reign), he ended up in angles that avoided pitting him in a title match for 3 months, or was eventually booked against no-hopers like Umaga. Rumor has it that after Taker won the rumble in 2007, he was originally scripted to jump to Raw and win the WWE title at Mania, but wanted to bring back the Undisputed design.. I'm sure everyone can figure out why that never materialized, and even at the time it seemed weird to me that he went for the WHC despite how many times he held the former.

So from there on out, it was like he was booked in decent matches with HBK, Orton, Bobby Lashley etc. but none of them were ever gonna be put over because of the "hurpity-derp, the Spinner belt would look strange on them!" logic. At the time I guess the creative were still sincere enough to realize how distastefully stale this was getting and banked HUGE on the Vince Mcmahon death angle, and a lot huger than alot of people I think, but it was cut short by Chris Benoit actually dying, there's no way that shit would've flown with the thoroughly respected perception of Benoit at the time, LBSH, if you had pick a bunch of wrestlers likely to a have a breakdown like that over a single weekend, he wouldn't have been on anyone's list.

I think if the circumstances were made clear immediately and before the WWE aired further programming instead of airing a tribute show out of gut instinct leaving them with egg on their faces, they might have handled it more rationally and professionally rather than being salty at the fact he left them with bad publicity and pretty much single-handedly forced them to abandon what could've been the biggest stunt since the Montreal Screwjob.

So with that, they're pretty much forced to.. push Cena. On top of having held it for a year, had enough and actually suffered a legit injury, no ifs and buts about it, he had to vacate the title. And the creative having no choice at the time but to push Orton, admit defeat and keep the Spinner belt anyway.

After that it was a slow but sure transition into a PG product, and TNA became too obsessed with the prospect of signing up overworked talent for the sheer novelty.

I didn't mean to ramble on and reminisce like I did, there's still been plenty more ups and downs in between, I just feel like all of the above is what shaped it into the sack of shit it is today. :p
 

Sasarix

"Heaven Will Fall!"
LBSH, if you had pick a bunch of wrestlers likely to a have a breakdown like that over a single weekend, he wouldn't have been on anyone's list.
Well not to be that guy or anything but he would have been on my list for sure. Benoit was nothing more than a steroid junkie that put his family through hell on a weekly basis. He learned all that shit from Kid Dynamite I think his name was. Point being he was a steroid abuser and everyone that is abusing steroids is only a good weekend away from a breakdown. Also Eddie had just recently died which would have put him higher on the list for a breakdown since that was his best friend outside the ring.
 

Joshkazkab

I am the Protector of Russia's Skies!
You can also just do one F2D13 and cross them up, but obviously the damage wont be as spectacular as 3.
 

PANDA

*Supreme Member*
Hey guys, I've noticed when people go up to you and just start mindlessly spamming strings you can back dash and punish the whiffs with F2,3. But when I back dash, there's a small frame window of back-dash cooldown and I can't punish right away.

Is it just easier to hold B? and punish when their string whiffs?
Have you guys had more success with back-dash punish or back-step punish?
 

MKB

Forum General Emeritus
expect john cena vs taker at mania 30 for the streak


shield will gun for tag titles at extreame rules
Cena/Taker is a popular pick for WM30, but I'd prefer a Taker VS Shield 3-man handicap match. THAT would have people believing Taker's streak is in jeopardy.
 

Tim Static

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Cena/Taker is a popular pick for WM30, but I'd prefer a Taker VS Shield 3-man handicap match. THAT would have people believing Taker's streak is in jeopardy.
no way, they wouldn't let 'Taker's streak get beat like that. They would just be another amazing win for the dead man.
 

tazzmission

Banned
Cena/Taker is a popular pick for WM30, but I'd prefer a Taker VS Shield 3-man handicap match. THAT would have people believing Taker's streak is in jeopardy.
honestly i think it be best if it was ziggler vs taker. he is one of the hardest working guys and lets be honest the world title dosent mean jack and really is a congrats kid hang onto this sort of thing

also i think smackdown is a dead brand wich should be cancelled

also i hear the shield will have a fourth member and if you are a fan of indi promotions i will give you a small tibit of who it will be

OLE! OLE! OLE!
 

MKB

Forum General Emeritus
no way, they wouldn't let 'Taker's streak get beat like that. They would just be another amazing win for the dead man.
Why not? WWE is hurting for main event, full time stars and what better way to create one (or more) than by snapping the streak?
 

tazzmission

Banned
no way, they wouldn't let 'Taker's streak get beat like that. They would just be another amazing win for the dead man.
i love taker but he isnt really healthy. he had a minor heart attack after the first hhh match at mania

plus hes not a young guy anymore ( wich is why he is rarely on tv)
 

tazzmission

Banned
Why not? WWE is hurting for stars and what better way to create one (or more) than by snapping the streak?
because cena is already over with the fans dude......

like i said make it someone like ziggler rhodes or sandow because out of those 3 at least they will get over with the fans. keep in mind the title isnt always what is important in getting someone over. why do you think guys like austin rock taker are 4 or 5 times champions wile guys like cena and hhh are 12 and 14 time champions?

hell i think codey rhodes is another that can go for either the streak or wwe title. rumor has it wwe is turning kofi heel ( wich makes no sense) and will push him
 
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