My first impressions of the Injustice DEMO

[Pig Of The Hut]

i understand def will give it a try but do you know the reason why there is no dash canceling?

The game was designed to be played like this

This is the developers vision

 

[ProudDisciple]

In terms of Mobiltu vs zoning let me ask u guys this

How easy did u zone any if the characters out on very hard mode??

Maybe u should watch the Ai and how it plays because the testers had a programmer program It in

I'm guessing u definitely didn't zone them out

Very Hard AI is on top of you non stop.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Very Hard AI is on top of you non stop.

Lol exactly

Mobility/rush down > zoning in injustice

Watch how they move

 

[drift221]

Lol exactly

Mobility/rush down > zoning in injustice

Watch how they move

well said. BTW Loving the new sig Sir Hut

 

[CrimsonShadow]

I don't see what the big deal is.. Ok, you have to space and time your dashes. But that actually feels exciting to me. Picking the perfect moment to dash up, or managing your spacing so that you can leap in with a long dash and blow someone up at the perfect moment.

Also, a lot of characters have something that was mostly absent in MK9 -- mid-range attacks. Whips, lassos, tridents, axes, staff, etc. What that means is that you can start to pressure and interact with your opponent before you are actually standing directly in their face. When one of these attacks connects, you can use the hitstun to dash all the way in and then start up-close pressure, or go for a crossup.

A lot of characters have mobility tools built-in. I think people are just rushing to try to make this game like MK9 instead of playing it for what it is.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

well said. BTW Loving the new sig Sir Hut

Lol it's a dead pig

 

[drift221]

Lol it's a dead pig

A Dead Pig of the Hut???????? XD

 

[Psychotropic]

Coming from MK i can say this is definitely taking some getting used to. Combos are pretty easy to pull off but the strategy is completely different. I like it a lot so far. Ive managed to beat Lex and WW on very hard, currently working on imposter Batman

 

[KingHippo]

I mean I would also think the lack of legit projectile heavy characters in the demo can certainly skew one's opinion. Lex zones, to be sure, but he's not using projectiles to do it.

 

[Astrocytic]

Just give it time.

This thread is also a perfect example of those kids who were complaining that Injustice was just another MK, what happened?

I laugh at you unprepared mortals.

 

[LEGEND]

i can confirm that zoning is indeed very strong. Lex is just kinda shitty in comparison and WW and Bats are just really good at what they do

i wouldn't even call lex a zoner. He's more built around scoring knockdowns and setting shit up

 

[16 Bit]

You can't dash cancel anything in AE and Third Strike. The character in both those games (Makoto) has the slowest footspeed in both and at the same time has one of the best rushdown games.

Gotta think outside of dash/d+3 dash/d+4 box.

Great post. This is accurate.

This game is not MK9. You will have to get used to not always using dash to close the gap at sweep distance. Anti-air is different. Counter poking is different. Backdash is different. It will be a challenging transition for those of us MK specialists, it was for me too. Relax and try new things and soon people will be around to help break the game down.

 

[EMPEROR_OF_OUTWORLD]

Coming from MK i can say this is definitely taking some getting used to. Combos are pretty easy to pull off but the strategy is completely different. I like it a lot so far. Ive managed to beat Lex and WW on very hard, currently working on imposter Batman

i gave up on batman ..

SILENCE !!!!! THE EMPEROR IS SPEAKING !!!

 

[TONY-T]

i dont know if this has been mentioned already but i dont like how you cant cancel your dash into any move. You litterally have to wait for the dash animation to stop before you can throw anything out. this is annoying me a lot.

 

[Rodshod123]

Man with those long ground dashes that can't be canceled, and the slow walk speeds "cough" "cough" wonderwoman in sword mode. With injustice type of aggressive zoning styles with characters like deathstroke green arrow and cyborg especially who can use zoning to be aggressive and defensive, as I saw while playing at pax. Its gonna be a lil rough, I do think injustice would be cool with dash canceling to help close the gap better against zoning , punish whiff attacks better etc. Cause I notice while playing at pax that ppl were jumping alot rather then dashing. Because it kept getting blow ppl up to easily. But, I m glad u duck some projectiles also loved that, makes life a lil more easier lol. Zoning like in any other game will always have ways to get around it.

 

[drift221]

Lol imagine playing against kabal in mk9 without dash canceling especially how good he is at covering the air and ground. Imagine how hard it would be to get in on him with those long ground dashes that can't be canceled, and the slow walk speeds "cough" "cough" wonder woman in sword mode. With injustice type of aggressive zoning styles with characters like deadpool green arrow and cyborg especially who can use zoning to be aggressive and defensive, as I saw while playing at pax. Its gonna be a lil rough, I do think injustice would serve better with dash canceling to help close the gap better against zoning , punish whiff attacks better etc. Cause I notice while playing at pax that ppl were jumping alot rather then dashing. Because it kept getting blow up to easily.

Whats wrong with not having an easy way to close on some who earned their life lead? this way the best player always wins. Plus I think they've given us plenty of way to get around zoning. I mean you can jump off the bat signal and cover alot of ground untouched. What else do we need?

 

[GodsLonelyman]

I think people are misinterpreting this threads original purpose. It was never meant to complain or call for unwarranted changes in the game or dashing system. It was just a theory fighting thread on how some believe that zoning will be strong due to the walking and dashing mechanics and why others believe the opposite. For the love of god don't ask for unecessary changes, we still don't even know how to play the game. Landind 50% percent combos in the demo doesn't mean you know the game, theres much more depth to this game than combos, anyone with half a brain can see that. A few people which I'm sure were part of the play testing team that helped build the game already gave us a brief explanation on why zoning won't be as strong as we believe and how to circumvent it. Remember NRS brought testers from all fighting game backgrounds, I'm sure the dash is the way it is for a reason. It would be a shame if this turned into MK9 all over again where peoples calls for nerfs and buffs nearly ruined the game for good.

 

[TheJaquio]

How easy did u zone any if the characters out on very hard mode??

Maybe u should watch the Ai and how it plays because the testers had a programmer program It in

I'm guessing u definitely didn't zone them out

While it's true that people will eventually learn how to move in this game, I don't know if using the very hard AI is a good example. It basically has that old school MK AI, where the cpu instantly counters most of the things you do as soon as you finish an input but before the move comes out. There's making reads, and then there's precognition.

 

[Erazor]

I think people are misinterpreting this threads original purpose. It was never meant to complain or call for unwarranted changes in the game or dashing system. It was just a theory fighting thread on how some believe that zoning will be strong due to the walking and dashing mechanics and why others believe the opposite. For the love of god don't ask for unecessary changes, we still don't even know how to play the game. Landind 50% percent combos in the demo doesn't mean you know the game, theres much more depth to this game than combos, anyone with half a brain can see that. A few people which I'm sure were part of the play testing team that helped build the game already gave us a brief explanation on why zoning won't be as strong as we believe and how to circumvent it. Remember NRS brought testers from all fighting game backgrounds, I'm sure the dash is the way it is for a reason. It would be a shame if this turned into MK9 all over again where peoples calls for nerfs and buffs nearly ruined the game for good.

I totally agree. It's very unlikely that the devs overlooked mechanics that apperar to be unbalanced after only 1 day of testing.

 

[Mr_Swizzer]

I like it, Its allot more fluent, More responsive, It will just take some getting used to

 

[Zyphox]

In terms of Mobiltu vs zoning let me ask u guys this

How easy did u zone any if the characters out on very hard mode??

Maybe u should watch the Ai and how it plays because the testers had a programmer program It in

I'm guessing u definitely didn't zone them out

well there are two things i could add to this statement, one we didn't have a true zoning character, wonder womens tiara is like neg on hit lol and batarangs are slow as balls, and lexs orb shooter is slow, if we had death stroke and green arrow, maybe sinestro or black adam, then this might be a different discussion altogether, and two the cpu has 0.00000 reaction time on very hard LOL doomsdays knew if i was blocking low or blocking high, did you ever get stuck in the corner on wakeup against him? its instant over heads or d1 into shoulder charage or ground stomp, it was madness!!!!

 

[Zyphox]

Whats wrong with not having an easy way to close on some who earned their life lead? this way the best player always wins. Plus I think they've given us plenty of way to get around zoning. I mean you can jump off the bat signal and cover alot of ground untouched. What else do we need?

do you know how easily baited that thing is? and the recovery time? holy balls doomsday would just shoulder charge me by the time i had the chance to block LOL

 

[IrishMantis]

Yeah gonna take awhile to use o in the game,,, I'm sure there's a logical reason why you can't cancel dashes, yeah the dashes are long would if being cool if they had single dash and double dash (double dash) being what your seen in the demo.
First I was worried hearing NRS saying its gonna be NOob Friendly, and the demo is so not noob Friendly that I actually wish it was haha.
And wow combos require real strict timing unlike MK, which can be a good thing, meaning only the good players be hitting the big combos

 

[Hellbringer]

And wow combos require real strict timing unlike MK, which can be a good thing, meaning only the good players be hitting the big combos

Lol so your saying u don't need strict timing in MK to do combo's? Not saying that all combo's are hard to do, but there are plenty of difficult ones too where u DO need strict timing to pull it off..

 

[Death]

I don't agree with zoning be op. it feels so fast and would be hard to keep someone lock down full screen. I agree with Tom. The game will evolve. After playing for hours on very hard I gotta say I'm really impressed. Whiff punishing is tricky cuz most ppl dash and whiff punish with normals. In this game your spacing has to be on point to whiff punish.

Couple things I don't like. The interactables need to go or get toned down ALOT. Their unblock able, fast and do a lot of damage. Not a fan of the dumpster, car etc. I wouldn't mind keeping them but I hope their tone down in retail. If not I'm all for banning them in tournament. Stage transitions I like but way too much damage. The one at Gotham was 30%. That needs to be 20% at the most and huge scaling off combos into stage transition.

Combos in this game are so smooth and much easier to get down than mk. No dashes or slight dashes in the middle of strings. You just stand there and do it or a slight walk. Will be much better to hit consistently in tournies IMO.

Doomsday seems so good. That trait . I hope that's not how he plays. He seems op lol