MisterSpyker
The 6'4 King
To give space for characters that don't suck.Catwoman is more recognizable and popular, and an all around better character, than Shazam and Black Adam.
Why would they do that?
Shazam and Black Adam are great imo.
To give space for characters that don't suck.Catwoman is more recognizable and popular, and an all around better character, than Shazam and Black Adam.
Why would they do that?
I'd take any comic book version of a character of a Young Justice one. They don't belong in this game, maybe as skins or alts, but not as the main version of the character. Not ragging on the cartoon or its fans, each to their own etc. but this is a (fairly) violent fighting game, and while there are fight scenes in the cartoon they lack the brutality that occurs in the game.id take tigress over cheetah
I'd take any comic book version of a character of a Young Justice one. They don't belong in this game, maybe as skins or alts, but not as the main version of the character. Not ragging on the cartoon or its fans, each to their own etc. but this is a (fairly) violent fighting game, and while there are fight scenes in the cartoon they lack the brutality that occurs in the game.
I fee they'd be really, really out of place. It's probably why they upped the age/badass level of Raven and Cyborg. Although he does have that horrible 'booyah'
Teen Titans were only actually teenagers in the show as far as I know.see isnt that kind of hypocritical though? i mean cyborg and raven are teen titans so why should yj be excluded?
Shazam and Black Adam are Garbo, Catwoman is too popular to just get dropped regardless of how interesting or whatever anyone thinks she isTo give space for characters that don't suck.
Shazam and Black Adam are great imo.
season 2 of yj had i think a 5 year gap to make the new team a bit older so im guessing 14 or 15 in the show because dick was what 10 when he was robin?Teen Titans were only actually teenagers in the show as far as I know.
People talking shit about Shazam and Black adam? LOL stop
GL is my fav, and shazam is a close secondbelieve it or not i havent read any shazam or black adam. i only messed with green lantern and mmh but im interested to check those two guys out
GL is my fav, and shazam is a close second
Well some people think Batman and Superman sucks does that mean they don't deserve a spot no it should not. I think the only way a character deserve a slot is to either be popular,unique, or just play a large role in the story.To give space for characters that don't suck.
Shazam and Black Adam are great imo.
batman and superman dont suck but they are becoming over rated and rebooted non stopWell some people think Batman and Superman sucks does that mean they don't deserve a spot no it should not. I think the only way a character deserve a slot is to either be popular,unique, or just play a large role in the story.
Aqualad Nightwing and everyone else from season 1 were 18 to 21 in season 2season 2 of yj had i think a 5 year gap to make the new team a bit older so im guessing 14 or 15 in the show because dick was what 10 when he was robin?
ah ok than my math was faulty. thanksAqualad Nightwing and everyone else from season 1 were 18 to 21 in season 2
I don't think they suck in fact Batman my favorite comic book character ,I'm just saying that they do have people that hate them.batman and superman dont suck but they are becoming over rated and rebooted non stop
not to get off topic but we are getting a batman reboot sometime in 2015 or 2016
its like really why not cash in on the success of the arrow tv show and get charlie hunnam to play green arrow?
nothing against stephen amell but hunnam is a fantastic actor and has the look
Hmm,Those STAR Labs challenges will feature unlocks, allowing players to get new characters and costumes, as well as other challenges.
Ok, well if you aren't counting the main character themself, it would be 5 from Batman's universe. But, it was stated by Ed Boon, they weren't thinking of these characters as "belonging" to a franchise. They never said "man, we have to have this many from this franchise, this many from that franchise etc." They simply looked at everyone as a DC character. Plain and simple. And that's how it should be. There's absolutely no reason why someone who is an A or B lister should be cast aside, just so we can have some C or D list hero/villain to add to another character's franchise count. This isn't segregated. It's not a matter of making everything fair in terms of everyone getting an equal representation from their own series. There's no reason we need it to be 3 from Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Teen Titans, Aquaman, and Shazam etc. That's boring, and it's going to lead to a lackluster roster.truth be told the real reason she was in is because her render was in mk vs dcu and secondly catwoman was in the latest batman film so its ovious wb will try and milk her
same with batman as much as i enjoy him i think there is to many batman charachters. its like dc is telling people batman is the only franchise that they can stand on
we have what 7 total just for his universe wile everyone else has nothing?
Yep, couldn't agree more. Catwoman is #11 on IGN's best comic book villains(that includes all villains from Marvel and DC, Joker took 2nd by the way). She's rated/voted in the top 3 favorite Batman villains in many lists that are found online. Anybody that thinks she just became relevant or popular because of TDKR movie, definitely doesn't follow comics or their characters very closely. And clearly has a bias against anything relating to Batman, and just wish to throw any character from his world under the bus and downplay their importance/popularity amongst most comic book fans and casual audiences.I'm so tired of hearing "The only reason Catwoman is in is because of TDKR". Catwoman is one of Batman's most popular villains and is probably THE most popular female villain. She has been a staple in the DCU especially in the last 20 years in all kinds of different media. Don't forget she was the ONLY female villain chosen to be in MK vs DC so Netherrealm obviously liked her to begin with. Even if she was never in TDKR i'm positive she would still have a place in the roster.
Ok, well if you aren't counting the main character themself, it would be 5 from Batman's universe. But, it was stated by Ed Boon, they weren't thinking of these characters as "belonging" to a franchise. They never said "man, we have to have this many from this franchise, this many from that franchise etc." They simply looked at everyone as a DC character. Plain and simple. And that's how it should be. There's absolutely no reason why someone who is an A or B lister should be cast aside, just so we can have some C or D list hero/villain to add to another character's franchise count. This isn't segregated. It's not a matter of making everything fair in terms of everyone getting an equal representation from their own series. There's no reason we need it to be 3 from Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Teen Titans, Aquaman, and Shazam etc. That's boring, and it's going to lead to a lackluster roster.
The fact is, there's popular and recognizable characters that can sell this game, there's unique and fun characters that add to gameplay diversity, and there's characters with a lot of story potential based on their history of interactions with other characters. There's absolutely no need to say "hmmm...ok, we need to ONLY have 2 more from Batman's franchise, so lets go with Joker and Nightwing, sorry Catwoman, Harley, Bane, Scarecrow, Clayface, Ivy, Freeze, Ra's, Robin, Red Hood, and Croc fans, you don't get to see your favorite character because we can only feature so many from each franchise, we want to keep it fair." In turn, now we have to have 2 from all the other franchises. Supes, you get Lex and Doomsday, sorry Braniac or Zod hopefuls. Wonder Woman, you can have Ares and Cheetah, sorry Circe fans. Flash, you get Captain Cold and Gorilla Grodd. Shazam gets Black Adam and Starro. Aquaman gets Black Manta and Ocean Master. Green Lantern gets Sinestro and Grundy. Raven, Cyborg, and Deathstroke.
There's your 24 person roster.
Unhappy with certain people being left out? Well, too damn bad. Because if you add 1 more to one character, you have to add 1 more to everyone else.
Unhappy with certain people being included instead of one of your more favorables? Too bad, because then if we take one character out from one person's franchise, then we have to take one out of all the others.
My point being, who the hell cares what franchise they are from, or if things are equal. You are going to get some franchises represented more than others. It happens. Marvel vs Capcom 2 & 3, as well as Marvel Ultimate Alliance, featured more X-men than any other franchise. Want to know why? Because they have a lot of popular well known characters to pick from than the rest of the individual Marvel franchises. Just as Batman does with DC. It's just the way it goes.
Think of them as individuals, not focusing on where they originated. Catwoman, Nightwing, and Harley all appear in their own comics these days. They are their own established characters, with their own cast of characters. And Joker is his own beast, so far beyond just relegated as just a "Batman character". Joker is a main DCU villain.
This is such a beaten to death complaint/argument.
Yep, couldn't agree more. Catwoman is #11 on IGN's best comic book villains(that includes all villains from Marvel and DC, Joker took 2nd by the way). She's rated/voted in the top 3 favorite Batman villains in many lists that are found online. Anybody that thinks she just became relevant or popular because of TDKR movie, definitely doesn't follow comics or their characters very closely. And clearly has a bias against anything relating to Batman, and just wish to throw any character from his world under the bus and downplay their importance/popularity amongst most comic book fans and casual audiences.
thank you! you would think by now wb and dc would be where marvel is at in regards to a cinematic universe but nope just same old batman and superman remakes.I don't think they suck in fact Batman my favorite comic book character ,I'm just saying that they do have people that hate them.
Also I agree DC should try and cash in on arrows success.
Cyborg was a Teen Titan, then he sort of graduated into being an adult hero in the DC Universe. Now in he is a primary member of the Justice League in the comics, he's sort of a big deal, and adult.see isnt that kind of hypocritical though? i mean cyborg and raven are teen titans so why should yj be excluded?
simply throw blue beetle in and proplem solved. hell even artemis is what 18 19?Cyborg was a Teen Titan, then he sort of graduated into being an adult hero in the DC Universe. Now in he is a primary member of the Justice League in the comics, he's sort of a big deal, and adult.
Raven... she is still a Teen in the comics, this is true, but she has a massive following (as you can by no doubt tell on this forum). They were not included because of the Teen Titans cartoon, hence why they don't look like they do in the cartoon. To include characters from Young Justice thought would be including them because of the cartoon, as I presumed (perhaps wrongly) that is the style you wanted them in. Take YJ Beast Boy for example, he most certainly would not fit in this game: imagine you pick Doomsday, and than brutally mash the shit out of what is quite literally, a child.
Doesn't go down very well is all I am saying.
WB should have a say in who goes in, as well as DC. It's their characters. They own full rights. Wouldn't you want NRS to have some say in who goes into a game, if someone else were to use MK characters?i dont blame nrs one bit but i do blame warner bros because what if they had a say as to who go's on that roster?
alot of these publishers now a days dont have such free control anymore as people believe wich is why a company like ea is crumbling and how there ceo just quit yesterday
in some cases i believe free reign is ok and nrs should have that these guys are known to really please there fanbase and imo they dont need wb on there back saying well so and so sells more than the other .WB should have a say in who goes in, as well as DC. It's their characters. They own full rights. Wouldn't you want NRS to have some say in who goes into a game, if someone else were to use MK characters?
It's a collaboration. Boon has said that both NRS and DC discuss who should be included. And frankly, the roster is stacked. Whether you hate a couple of Batman characters or Teen Titans or whoever, nobody can argue against just how great the roster is. You are getting the cream of the crop.
At the end of the day, the characters that are included are for a good reason. I don't know how many times I have to say that. They did not just pick these names from a hat. The roster is something they put a lot of thought into, and make sure that every character is included to tell the story they want to tell, and offer a fun gameplay experience. The characters that are left out, are the ones that aren't needed for the story, for unique gameplay, or to sell the game. That's where DLC comes in. You'll get your MMH, Powergirl, Lobo, and other characters they didn't need right off the bat. Catwoman, Harley, Bane, Nightwing, and especially Joker...are all going to play their roles in the story mode. They aren't there, just to have more Batman characters. It's not like we have Man-Bat and the Clock King in here. We have characters that will serve a purpose. That's all that matters.