At the risk of sounding like an ass, you don't know what you're talking about. Of course if you're sitting there ducking expecting a tele you're gonna uppercut me, but there's no way you're gonna on reaction uppercut me without ducking before I can get a tele 3 out. Fuck it though
not at all man, reptile is a character built with tools to deal with zoning. Why would i jump vs freddy? haha i can duck your advancing claw, just dash in when you do a ground claw and i blow, and when you do the low fingers, just jump, it's slow recovery and doesn't give you time to do anything else after. It is in no way freddy advantage at all, just zoning and backing up to the corner won't save freddy, and reptile can punish his tele. Also freddy doesn't have fast normals, so that means he doesn't have a great way out of pressure other than tele or try and d3 counterpoke, d1 is punishable by dash every time. I'm going with 5-5, freddy's zoning doesn't slow him down like kabal or liu bcuz his low projectile isn't fast. Kabal has a 0 frame buzzsaw and liu's fb comes out at a good speed and doesn't recover slow either. Heck we'll just have to play this match whenever we get a chance.
Dontay hath thus told dave of thy fact o freddy haha.
uh not at all, you've played with me, denzell, dab, and flawedzilla before, what happened everytime you attempted to tele? exactly. Also i know what i'm talking about, undefeated vs lao in tournament, and play lao at home daily. Also got wins vs top laos in tournament. Yep my lao resume speaks for itself. Also my reactions are very good, if you watched my match vs PL or my matches vs pboard, i shut teles down. It really isn't hard, i remember ppl thought tele just raped sub until denzell came in at anaheim and showed how to really deal with teles.
Lol? That was 4 moths ago. I mained cage when I played you guys. You know that. I had been playing Lao for a week, I didn't even know Neutral jump punches stopped cross-ups, nor did I know D4's were plus on block.... You don't get it, If you want to play that match i'm in Vegas for another week sir. No need to discuss it when we can play it offline.
I am not sure that you understand the subtleties of the match up. You make it sound like approaching Freddy is simple when Freddy's full screen zoning game is at its very best versus Reptile because of the slow regular dash. The elbow dash is only a factor at close and mid range. If it were not for the mid spike punish, Freddy would destroy Reptile 7:3.
uh if freddy had no tele, reptile would almost 8 2 him, he'd have no way out of pressure and i'd just merk him with d4s and etc. Also i understand reptile very well/ you haven't played my reptile my friend, mus are supposed to be based off the highest lvl of play, so why not you vs me since i'm a high lvl reptile and you a high lvl freddy and settle this? also you not getting 65 pct off zoning lmao, i'll be in by that time. There's a reason reptile is one of the few chars who gives kenshi issues, and kenshis zoning is very good. Actually you make it sound like zoning reptile is easy, which i'll definitely prove you wrong. Also freddy doesn't have a good way of dealing with good d4s. Like i said, let's just play it out, talking all day won't lead to nothing right now, we just need to play. And i've beaten all freddies i have encountered.
uh what's your point that was 4 months ago? we lvl up just as well LMAO, also i didn't even cross up on you much, dnt need to when my footsies game is very solid. And d4s neutral on block..... plus on hit though. Also you def dnt get that the vegas crew plays kung lao at the highest lvl possible, hence why we beat laos all the time. You really dnt want to run a guantlet on us with your lao, you'll be switching up chars quickly. Please dnt doubt my knowledge of things, that's a mistake ppl have made before and i made them pay for that. I really hope you dnt think those tele shenaningans will work on my reptile, you're sadly mistaken. Deal with it on the regular, and blow up teles for free bcuz it's not hard.
u can trade with lowfb if u time it right... u can jump over it on reaction from fullscreen and u can dash under regular high fbs ... what did i say about iafb??
if u force him to jump that plays into your hand because u can aa on reaction with a midspike or ex spike for a full combo if u realize he hasnt timed his jump perfectly.... or u can just backdash and spam more to keep him pushed back.... jumping vs freddy is MURDER and too risky.... and freddy can backdash and whiff punish d4s with spikes and he has 2 10 frame moves
uh negative sir, you obviously haven't played a reptile at my lvl, like i said, we'll just play. why would i take risk against him when i can get in without them? That's senseless and no where near what reptile should be doing vs him. Peckapowa, 6 4 kang over reptile.
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I intend to use all of Freddy's tools tbh. Not just zoning.
lmao can duck that all day.
nah i explained why, and i played pig in tournament, let's just say it came down to final round final match and it was neck and neck. Mil dnt win, you could explain why you think she wins though, just saying it's 6 4 doesn't work. Also i dnt just theory fight, i have offline experience in mus to back up my mu listings as well. For a reptile who doesn't know the mil mu, it'll seem like mil wins, but it is very diff when the reptile knows the mu.
i actually put into this thread what reptile has to deal with freddy, and m2dave put what freddy can do. It seems like a 5-5 mu for sure, freddy def does better than ermac in this mu for sure.
Hmm from what i ve read it seems Reptile has the upper hand here, although Freddy could mix it up with regular/low FF's. I also agree that jumping against Freddy is not an option. But when Reptile gets in it can get hard for Freddy. Plus if you put him in the corner, you can just anticipate the tp and dash him.
Reptile is the most helpless character versus Freddy's full screen zoning because of the slow dash. Unlike Ermac and Kenshi, Freddy can control the entire horizontal space of the screen with a very fast projectile, the glove toss. Whether the Reptile player decides to block or neutral-crouch the glove toss, Freddy can toss another one and Reptile is unable to advance without taking damage. You can continue tossing gloves and force your opponent to make a decision - jump forward, in which case you anti-air with mid spike, or simply keep tossing gloves to build meter. You can also occasionally do a finger. A blocked full screen finger followed by a glove toss is another trap which disables Reptile's movement.
why would he be helpless? lmao dude he has a 6 frame dash that closes the distance and forces freddy to be weary of when he can do claws. You can duck all bf2's and his fingers are a slow ass projectile that i can jump over. Screw the theories with this mu, we are going to have to play bcuz i've beaten all freddies i have played and you have beat all reptiles you have played.
good breakdown, the main thing that made me change it was jax can't do f4,1,3 pressure, and if he attempts i can punish the whiffed one for a full 30 percent combo. Also I can trade off with his energy wave and avoid ground pounds by doing a d4, since doing a d4 makes it whiff always. But I will be going to scr and tyrant will be there, i'd like to here his thoughts on the mu, in fact EGP_TYRANT, i'll tag him in now.
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