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UsedForGlue

"Strength isn't everything"
Of course you can get lucky, and just randomly be one step ahead of the pace and just rip people to shreds, and other times you can go 8-14 with every death being a back shot.
 

GhosT

Noob
This is a grey area question. I will give my input and advice.

1. Use top tier weapons, This game did a good job of making more guns viable, but if you are an active player, i recommend sub guns, The MSMC and Skorpion Evo seem to be the best, with the PDW taking a very honorable mention. If you like to for lack of a better word "camp" assault rifles will be okay, but know your maps and what sort of ranges you will be engaging at.

2. KNOW YOUR MAPS: No i dont mean know where you are on the map, learn each map inside and out, not only learn two or three different ways into a certain building/chokepoint. But learn every way in and out (how to climb in thru windows etc) This will help you escape / find ways in when you need.

3.Know your spawns: Spawns have gotten increasingly worse with every COD game since cod 4. Some reason developers seem to be devolving here, but my two cents says its their way of leveling the field so scrubs can (and will) spawn behind you after you kill them just so they have a way to get kills. Since spawns are unreliable you must always keep an eye on your mini map radar, Notice where you are, where your team is, and react accordingly, its possible to make a judgement on where the enemy will spawn and also gives you a heads up on what options they have to the point of attack, This is very very situational stuff because the spawns act differently from game mode to game mode. ( TDM will spawn different than Domination etc) Once you start to understand the spawns you will get shot in the back less frequently.

4. Buy a turtle beach headset and Use dead silence + awareness. THis is the easiest way to get better without trying, enables you to hear enemy footsteps with ease, wich obviously helps.

5. Dont be discouraged by your K/D Since cod 4 my K/D has always been above 2.20 when i finally quit playing. But my K/D is always lower during the first couple months the game is out, because like everyone else im learning maps, tactics and unlocking perks and guns that will ultimately be what i run until the next game comes out. My K/D now is low around 1.50 but i still have only 1500 kills, and a couple 30-5 games that K/D will JUMP up so dont worry about k/d now worry about unlocking all the guns and perks and learning the maps / spawns.

I play Search and Destroy because of all the COD game modes i feel its one of the only modes that has a META game in it similar to fighters, you can make reads on their bomb strategy and defense strategy and its pretty fun game mode.

Hope you see improvements in the gameplay. as always COD has gone downhill, but i must say this game IMO is a vast improvement from MW3
 

MagicMan357

"130 ms is more legit than Labbing" - TYM
If you suck at the easiest shooting series ever then dont play shooters.

BO2 is great but its still COD
 
guys add me on ps3 if you like to play free for all and that game in which there is 3 teams of 3 people just say you are from tym when you sent me the req
 

DanableLector

UPR DanableLector
Lightweight is actually one of the best perks in Blops2. And unlike fighting games, worrying about how good your k/d is in any shooter can make you better player. If you always set yourself to a high standard it's more than likely going to stick. But worrying about your k/d too much can take away from the fun factor :/
I have games where i screw around. Im fond of using a b23r, or whatever the burst fire pistol is; with 5 or 6 perks. Its pretty fun. I just want to be able to flip the switch when I am playing with friends in games that matter.. I just cant. My score per minute sucks, and I get blown up in close quarters a lot because of my connection or something I dunno.
 

DanableLector

UPR DanableLector
Of course you can get lucky, and just randomly be one step ahead of the pace and just rip people to shreds, and other times you can go 8-14 with every death being a back shot.
Story of my life.. Its so inconsistant, and yet the group of guys a play with do so well, so often. I just dont want to be the weakest link, but for gods sake I dont really know what else i can do. I suppose I could get intimate knowledge of spawn points..
 

DanableLector

UPR DanableLector
This is a grey area question. I will give my input and advice.

1. Use top tier weapons, This game did a good job of making more guns viable, but if you are an active player, i recommend sub guns, The MSMC and Skorpion Evo seem to be the best, with the PDW taking a very honorable mention. If you like to for lack of a better word "camp" assault rifles will be okay, but know your maps and what sort of ranges you will be engaging at.

2. KNOW YOUR MAPS: No i dont mean know where you are on the map, learn each map inside and out, not only learn two or three different ways into a certain building/chokepoint. But learn every way in and out (how to climb in thru windows etc) This will help you escape / find ways in when you need.

3.Know your spawns: Spawns have gotten increasingly worse with every COD game since cod 4. Some reason developers seem to be devolving here, but my two cents says its their way of leveling the field so scrubs can (and will) spawn behind you after you kill them just so they have a way to get kills. Since spawns are unreliable you must always keep an eye on your mini map radar, Notice where you are, where your team is, and react accordingly, its possible to make a judgement on where the enemy will spawn and also gives you a heads up on what options they have to the point of attack, This is very very situational stuff because the spawns act differently from game mode to game mode. ( TDM will spawn different than Domination etc) Once you start to understand the spawns you will get shot in the back less frequently.

4. Buy a turtle beach headset and Use dead silence + awareness. THis is the easiest way to get better without trying, enables you to hear enemy footsteps with ease, wich obviously helps.

5. Dont be discouraged by your K/D Since cod 4 my K/D has always been above 2.20 when i finally quit playing. But my K/D is always lower during the first couple months the game is out, because like everyone else im learning maps, tactics and unlocking perks and guns that will ultimately be what i run until the next game comes out. My K/D now is low around 1.50 but i still have only 1500 kills, and a couple 30-5 games that K/D will JUMP up so dont worry about k/d now worry about unlocking all the guns and perks and learning the maps / spawns.

I play Search and Destroy because of all the COD game modes i feel its one of the only modes that has a META game in it similar to fighters, you can make reads on their bomb strategy and defense strategy and its pretty fun game mode.

Hope you see improvements in the gameplay. as always COD has gone downhill, but i must say this game IMO is a vast improvement from MW3
Thanks so much for taking the time to reply like this. I will spend a little more time exploring the maps, and the one thing I really need to do is determine the spawn points for the game types I play. Is there an internet resource available for this?
 

LEGEND

YES!
Story of my life.. Its so inconsistant, and yet the group of guys a play with do so well, so often. I just dont want to be the weakest link, but for gods sake I dont really know what else i can do. I suppose I could get intimate knowledge of spawn points..
understanding spawn points is a huge part of the game

i dont know how id be able to run n gun like i do without it
 

LEGEND

YES!
This is a grey area question. I will give my input and advice.

1. Use top tier weapons, This game did a good job of making more guns viable, but if you are an active player, i recommend sub guns, The MSMC and Skorpion Evo seem to be the best, with the PDW taking a very honorable mention. If you like to for lack of a better word "camp" assault rifles will be okay, but know your maps and what sort of ranges you will be engaging at.

2. KNOW YOUR MAPS: No i dont mean know where you are on the map, learn each map inside and out, not only learn two or three different ways into a certain building/chokepoint. But learn every way in and out (how to climb in thru windows etc) This will help you escape / find ways in when you need.

3.Know your spawns: Spawns have gotten increasingly worse with every COD game since cod 4. Some reason developers seem to be devolving here, but my two cents says its their way of leveling the field so scrubs can (and will) spawn behind you after you kill them just so they have a way to get kills. Since spawns are unreliable you must always keep an eye on your mini map radar, Notice where you are, where your team is, and react accordingly, its possible to make a judgement on where the enemy will spawn and also gives you a heads up on what options they have to the point of attack, This is very very situational stuff because the spawns act differently from game mode to game mode. ( TDM will spawn different than Domination etc) Once you start to understand the spawns you will get shot in the back less frequently.

4. Buy a turtle beach headset and Use dead silence + awareness. THis is the easiest way to get better without trying, enables you to hear enemy footsteps with ease, wich obviously helps.

5. Dont be discouraged by your K/D Since cod 4 my K/D has always been above 2.20 when i finally quit playing. But my K/D is always lower during the first couple months the game is out, because like everyone else im learning maps, tactics and unlocking perks and guns that will ultimately be what i run until the next game comes out. My K/D now is low around 1.50 but i still have only 1500 kills, and a couple 30-5 games that K/D will JUMP up so dont worry about k/d now worry about unlocking all the guns and perks and learning the maps / spawns.

I play Search and Destroy because of all the COD game modes i feel its one of the only modes that has a META game in it similar to fighters, you can make reads on their bomb strategy and defense strategy and its pretty fun game mode.

Hope you see improvements in the gameplay. as always COD has gone downhill, but i must say this game IMO is a vast improvement from MW3
2 and 3 are really important

1 i disagree with. i go +2/1 with pistols on carrier. . . Its all about knowing what perks/attachment and playstyle to use with a given weapon
 

DanableLector

UPR DanableLector
2 and 3 are really important

1 i disagree with. i go +2/1 with pistols on carrier. . . Its all about knowing what perks/attachment and playstyle to use with a given weapon
I have actually had one of my best games ever on carrier with the b23r burst fire pistol set up. I have a general idea of where spawn points will be, but I think surely have a lot to learn about them. I only use ghost in certain game types though. I actually, in most cases prefer to be seen on the map.
 

GhosT

Noob
2 and 3 are really important

1 i disagree with. i go +2/1 with pistols on carrier. . . Its all about knowing what perks/attachment and playstyle to use with a given weapon
Yeah its definately subject to the individual.. The way I play the game is like this: Run and gun: I must have A SMG FOR superior ADS. and up close brutality. With this in mind the Skorpion Evo is second to none. But at the same time, when certain maps detail a mid range game, i go MSMC with extended mag and suppressor or fast mag. LIke i said i think treyarch made most of the guns VIABLE which means more than ever individuals can use what THEY like.. which is awesome.

And yeah pistol secondaries are OVERPOWERED... the damn Tac 45 is as good for better than the Deagle from Cod 4. (arguably best pistol ever in cod)

That stupid 3 shot pistol is damn sure OP lol.

as a rule of thumb my classes are as follows:

DEAD SILENCE +GREED + AWARENESS +WEAPON(skorpion evo MSMC PDW etc) + 2 attachments either (fast mag, grip, supressor , extended mags, its always one of these or both in a pair)

i normally run ghost since uavs are ALWAYS out and i stay moving so i know im GHOST mode like my name :p and i honestly like toughness for perk 2 slot. cuz i hate flinching off shots and it keeps my gun on their chest when im gunning.

Lastyly depending on my points situation i will run a claymore or betty, and at least ONE black hat..

I will add right now i keep one class dedicated to rushdown, with lightweight and extreme conditioning, this class is mostly a dedicated Search n destroy class, because you can tell and determine when uavs drop.

I also have a dedicated equipment class, when i play ppl who use a lot of claymores bettys etc etc. i use engineer and two black hats. those are my dedicated classes and aside from those two i ALWAYS have dead silence awareness and an SMG with either grip+ silencer or grip+fast mag or grip+extended clip. I tweak these constantly though
 

GhosT

Noob
Its funny because if your K/D is at least 2.00, youre already better than 90% of the players out there.
Yeah like i said though, as of right now im at 1.55

Which is good enough, but my recent history wiht COD games suggest that my K/D starts low and ends up leveling out around the 2,0 area.

From Cod 4 until now i have always maintained a 2..0 or better.

And the sad thing is thats no where near pro... 95% of people have a lower K/D but the top 3% that competes at MLG are so much better than me... I know cuz my buddy from florida did that crap, and when i play with him i struggle to go 10-0 cuz i swear he always ends up with 70+ kills per game. His stupid K/D is over 5.0 at the moment..
 

Killphil

A prop on the stage of life.
The UAV wouldn't be a problem if you pack a fucking launcher. Seriously for like every 20 games I play I might find one other person that actually shoots down air support before I can. This game is a scrub fest. Best I can say is, when you and someone down a hallway/across the level are engaging in a back and forth gunfight, the best thing to do is just turn around and run the other way around the level. I swear to you they will sit and camp there and it won't be worth the hassle. Other effective means to not die/kill more:

-try to use all your equipment per spawn. Tactical/explosive/hatchet/whatever.
-as I said, use a launcher. Shooting down a uav is more valuable than getting a "free kill" with a rpg.
-Don't be so fast! Let your teammates be the cannon fodder so you can kill whoever kills them. Walk around corners/into buildings because aiming takes less time from the hip.

If all else fails...well......

 

GhosT

Noob
The UAV wouldn't be a problem if you pack a fucking launcher. Seriously for like every 20 games I play I might find one other person that actually shoots down air support before I can. This game is a scrub fest. Best I can say is, when you and someone down a hallway/across the level are engaging in a back and forth gunfight, the best thing to do is just turn around and run the other way around the level. I swear to you they will sit and camp there and it won't be worth the hassle. Other effective means to not die/kill more:

-try to use all your equipment per spawn. Tactical/explosive/hatchet/whatever.
-as I said, use a launcher. Shooting down a uav is more valuable than getting a "free kill" with a rpg.
-Don't be so fast! Let your teammates be the cannon fodder so you can kill whoever kills them. Walk around corners/into buildings because aiming takes less time from the hip.

If all else fails...well......

Bad advice man..

Why waste time earning +150 when with the right perks and gun you can earn 300+ in kills.. i cant tell u how many times i call in a stealth chopper then get dogs because im killing R tards who try and shoot down any air support out there
 

Killphil

A prop on the stage of life.
Bad advice man..

Why waste time earning +150 when with the right perks and gun you can earn 300+ in kills.. i cant tell u how many times i call in a stealth chopper then get dogs because im killing R tards who try and shoot down any air support out there
Maybe because I don't think about the +150, I think about how much more kills I'm potentially giving the other team by letting them see my teammates on the map? I tend to die less when people can't see me on the map.
 

MagicMan357

"130 ms is more legit than Labbing" - TYM
May i ask your shooter of choice?

I have dabbled in halo and gears, as well as killzone, never had the privelage of playing CS so let me know what your talking about
COD as a series is trash but BO2 is great (Finally). In this one ill tell you the basics.
- SMGS are for rushing, i usually use a supressor and laser sight since you shouldnt ADS with an smg unless absolutely vital.
- Assault rifles are for defense, staying back and just lighting people up. You should use foregrip + stock (with the AN94 atleast).
- Shotties rape in this game
- use scorestreaks that you know you can get
- get used to high sensitivity, its vital
- Regular knifing sux ass, avoid it as much as possible

Those are just some tips