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Just read the MLG Rules, they don't list invincible glitch as banned

Flagg

Champion
Agree that only a shithead would use this glitch, but when there are thousands on the line I think it needs to be spelled out that they can't. Last thing we need is to have the last MLG end with a big split in the community because someone used it and feels MLG is bullshit because they counted it as cheating or MLG allows it and most of the community hates them after that.
To be honest, there are millions in a bank vault but that doesnt mean im going to do what it takes to get that money.

And yeah, prepare to see MK be laughed right of MLG for good if some fool uses that.
 

GLoRToR

Positive Poster!
This game is already base for a lot of discontentment and name calling.
MLG will do everything in their power to keep the game as fair as physically and morally possible.
 

Carlos Arvelo

MLG/PlayStation Fighting Game Community Manager.
It's banned. If you use the invinciblity glitch in match play you will be warned by losing the round. After that you will be DQ. Problem solved stop being grimy MK community. Glitches like this make your game look bad and aren't respectable.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
It's banned. If you use the invinciblity glitch in match play you will be warned by losing the round. After that you will be DQ. Problem solved stop being grimy MK community. Glitches like this make your game look bad and aren't respectable.
Thanks Carlos

@Morons please read above

^^Does that tag work? :p
 

AREZ God of War

The Crazy BeastMaster
It's banned. If you use the invinciblity glitch in match play you will be warned by losing the round. After that you will be DQ. Problem solved stop being grimy MK community. Glitches like this make your game look bad and aren't respectable.
LOL@ this guy.......


....just LOL. Winning at fighting games is all based on honor, respect and not using anything that could be considered "cheap".

I agree about some things being banned, but then again on the flip-side they are too controversial to derive an accurate answer to.

Playing defense against a Kabal that's keeps you crouch-blocking 80% of the match isn't exactly respectable to some people, but we still do it.

Where is that fine line defined? I can't even say myself, cuz I'm still on the fence after all this time.

I personally always wondered why MLG's rules are the only rules different than the rules that the rest of the kommunity decided on long ago....
 

Cossner

King of the Jobbers 2015
LOL@ this guy.......


....just LOL. Winning at fighting games is all based on honor, respect and not using anything that could be considered "cheap".

I agree about some things being banned, but then again on the flip-side they are too controversial to derive an accurate answer to.

Playing defense against a Kabal that's keeps you crouch-blocking 80% of the match isn't exactly respectable to some people, but we still do it.

Where is that fine line defined? I can't even say myself, cuz I'm still on the fence after all this time.

I personally always wondered why MLG's rules are the only rules different than the rules that the rest of the kommunity decided on long ago....
Why are you raging against the MLG Community manager?
 

GambitTheFirst

Just some bees, please.
Don't think it's raging really, just giving people something to think about. Seems like a fair point.

I don't really get why fleshpits costume is banned when Mileena isn't even considered anywhere near top anyway, it's exactly the same as saying Cyrax's damage exploits are okay because he's still not top even with them. Granted the costume is possibly one of the worst costumes in the history of MK ever and frankly is yet another embarrassment that this game has to endure (I have made my rant about it on some thread on TYM somewhere before so I'll leave out the rest here lol), but if people want to use it to exploit the benefits of having a arguably game rule breaking hitbox, how's that any different from using unblockable bombs for a free second combo's damage with Cyrax etc? Things like the invinsibility glitch make sense to ban as it literally stops the actual point of playing game, but exploiting unblockable moves and different sized hitboxes on costumes are still in the actual game part of the game, so either ban all the in-game bs, or none of it.
 

AREZ God of War

The Crazy BeastMaster
Why are you raging against the MLG Community manager?
I'm not, I'm just wondering why they don't appear to trust that the kommunity composed of over 10,000 MK players ....."doesn't know what's good for their own game".

It's just the same logic like "NRS deciding to make Injustice have no corners because they don't like how we trap Zoners in the corner" . LOL We HAVE to do that cuz that's only way to fight certain Zoners. We "don't like" when players want to run away and Zone. Why is there so much hate for rushdown players nowadays? NRS, us rushdown players are the ones who make your games look appealing. Those 29 hit combos you guys see come from the rushdown players. You guys actually want commercials that show 120 seconds of Fireball, fireball, fireball, Uppercut, fireball, fireball, fireball, uppercut? MvC4 anyone? I just find big flaws in these logics.

I don't see it as hating since I stated I'm "on the fence" about it, but to take that responsibility to be the determining factor is much more than it may seem. Granted if you have 2 decisions to make - half the people will be unhappy with #1 and 50% will be unhappy with #2, but we're talking things that should decided by the top 10-20 highest of high-level players, not spectators, Bro. If we were to sit here and vote unanimously that X-move should be allowed, my next step is find out who is credited to this decision.....from there if the ballet looked something like
REO
Crazy Dominican
CDJr
Pig of the Hut
Maxter
16-bit
...the rest of a typical top 8-16 (maybe MORE).....

I would be like "Ok, I'll take their word cuz I'm not good enough to prove otherwise anyway"

but if the ballet was filled w/ names from NRS, or people who don't understand the game at the highest level, then No, I would use the top player's voices for my own references regardless. If they say doing Smoke glitch is making you more inclined to losing, why would you A.) not listen to them and B.) would you not want it to be legal if it only increases the Smoke-opponents' chances of winning?

but exploiting unblockable moves and different sized hitboxes on costumes are still in the actual game part of the game, so either ban all the in-game bs, or none of it.
Don't forget to add "Rune Trap; punished by infinite for blocking correctly" to your list of Epic NRS Fails.
 

coolwhip

Master
I'm not, I'm just wondering why they don't appear to trust that the kommunity composed of over 10,000 MK players ....."doesn't know what's good for their own game".

It's just the same logic like "NRS deciding to make Injustice have no corners because they don't like how we trap Zoners in the corner" . LOL We HAVE to do that cuz that's only way to fight certain Zoners. We "don't like" when players want to run away and Zone. Why is there so much hate for rushdown players nowadays? NRS, us rushdown players are the ones who make your games look appealing. Those 29 hit combos you guys see come from the rushdown players. You guys actually want commercials that show 120 seconds of Fireball, fireball, fireball, Uppercut, fireball, fireball, fireball, uppercut? MvC4 anyone? I just find big flaws in these logics.

I don't see it as hating since I stated I'm "on the fence" about it, but to take that responsibility to be the determining factor is much more than it may seem. Granted if you have 2 decisions to make - half the people will be unhappy with #1 and 50% will be unhappy with #2, but we're talking things that should decided by the top 10-20 highest of high-level players, not spectators, Bro. If we were to sit here and vote unanimously that X-move should be allowed, my next step is find out who is credited to this decision.....from there if the ballet looked something like
REO
Crazy Dominican
CDJr
Pig of the Hut
Maxter
16-bit
...the rest of a typical top 8-16 (maybe MORE).....

I would be like "Ok, I'll take their word cuz I'm not good enough to prove otherwise anyway"

but if the ballet was filled w/ names from NRS, or people who don't understand the game at the highest level, then No, I would use the top player's voices for my own references regardless. If they say doing Smoke glitch is making you more inclined to losing, why would you A.) not listen to them and B.) would you not want it to be legal if it only increases the Smoke-opponents' chances of winning?


Don't forget to add "Rune Trap; punished by infinite for blocking correctly" to your list of Epic NRS Fails.
And how many top players are AGAINST the invincibility glitch being banned exactly?
 

Prinz

watch?v=a8PEVV6tt14
If I was to choose, I'd ban all of Kenshi's specials because he gives absolutely no chance to win with Jade. Maybe leave his reflect, but ban en-reflect.
 

coolwhip

Master
I don't know...back in the 1800's when I was growing up we used find out informations and answers by this little thing called "asking" them.
Good for you. Back in 1800's, the top players consisted of more than just REO, who's been the only one in favor of the glitch (and we all know he's just trolling anyway). Pretty much everyone else has been all for banning it, otherwise, you know, you'd actually hear them asking for it to be legal.
 

AREZ God of War

The Crazy BeastMaster
Good for you. Back in 1800's, the top players consisted of more than just REO, who's been the only one in favor of the glitch (and we all know he's just trolling anyway). Pretty much everyone else has been all for banning it, otherwise, you know, you'd actually hear them asking for it to be legal.
Then why are you asking ME if you obviously have have all the answers? Doesn't even make sense. Why would you ask me the opinions of other people anyway? Tbh, I could care less about the Smoke glitch, I'm just explaining that there's a process to banning and determining what's legal, and people seem to think they above it or something so I had to post this to clarify. So what exactly was it that you needed help with?
 

WayoftheFist

Cold day in hell...
If anyone thinks it wouldn't look ridiculous to have a Kabal win round 1 and crouch block for 90 seconds to win round 2, you're high. I'm generally a fan of not banning anything (I'm against the smoke parry cancel ban, and Mileena costume 3 ban) but for something you're showing to spectators I can see why this should be banned at MLG. It looks absolutely retarded to spectators. We can't expect stream viewers to understand MK players anything goes attitude.
 

AREZ God of War

The Crazy BeastMaster
If anyone thinks it wouldn't look ridiculous to have a Kabal win round 1 and crouch block for 90 seconds to win round 2, you're high. I'm generally a fan of not banning anything (I'm against the smoke parry cancel ban, and Mileena costume 3 ban) but for something you're showing to spectators I can see why this should be banned at MLG. It looks absolutely retarded to spectators. We can't expect stream viewers to understand MK players anything goes attitude.
Agreed. The Block-glitch is will make countless viewers say "Fuck this stupid POS game and watch something else"....and it will make players play something else as well if it's left legal.