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Do you WANT a redo?

Read the reasons for and against then decide if this tournament needs to be redone

  • Yes, redo it

    Votes: 20 37.7%
  • No, dont redo it

    Votes: 33 62.3%

  • Total voters
    53

CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
Everyone....very generous but Madzin is bowing out as the winner and giving the money back so there's no NEED for donations but I'll talk to Pig.
 

CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
Reno_Racks
Don't wait for pig if you are really down to do this. You are throwing in 250$ so you should host it. I don't see why you can't do it yourself. We can have the people that actually care help organize it. You made me motivated to play in an online tournament again. People like you keep me going, even though my threads/posts usually get ignored. Having another shot because another member of the community wants to support it will inspire me to play.

I'll be one of those people to help you organize it. I really want to go to mlg but probably wont make it because of money issues. I'll support this 100%
There's no waiting...it's being handled as we speak sir Lou. ;)
 

Lulzlou

Kombatant
There's no waiting...it's being handled as we speak sir Lou. ;)
Okay Awesome.
I didn't want Reno's plan to go to waste. The community definitely needs a second chance at this, I believe that we know what went wrong and learned from it. Another chance to bring everyone together would be awesome.
 

YOMI Reno_Racks

I have a dream...
Everyone....very generous but Madzin is bowing out as the winner and giving the money back so there's no NEED for donations but I'll talk to Pig.
I had decided when I originally posted that if Madzin gave back the money in order to make the redo happen I would leave my offer on the table since I already committed to using it for this. Then Lulzlou said some real heartfelt shit and now I'm definitely going through with it. So if Madzin gives back the money it'll be $500 tournament cause I'm putting my money in anyways. Hype!
 

Lulzlou

Kombatant
I had decided when I originally posted that if Madzin gave back the money in order to make the redo happen I would leave my offer on the table since I already committed to using it for this. Then Lulzlou said some real heartfelt shit and now I'm definitely going through with it. So if Madzin gives back the money it'll be $500 tournament cause I'm putting my money in anyways. Hype!
Oh no dude, it wasn't meant to try to force you to do it >.<
I'm just really happy to be apart of this community and would love for everyone to come together again. The other streams aren't the same since there are only a handful of people that show up. With the tournament its only the community having fun playing mk. Thats what I love seeing since I can't get to tournaments out of state currently. Its as close to offline as I'm going to get.

Anyway, I'm going to sleep now. Thanks for your support reno. If I had the money I would do the same thing. Things are a bit tight right now so all I can do is help in other ways.
 

DJ L Toro

Champion
Reno_Racks
Don't wait for pig if you are really down to do this. You are throwing in 250$ so you should host it. I don't see why you can't do it yourself. We can have the people that actually care help organize it. You made me motivated to play in an online tournament again. People like you keep me going, even though my threads/posts usually get ignored. Having another shot because another member of the community wants to support it will inspire me to play.

I'll be one of those people to help you organize it. I really want to go to mlg but probably wont make it because of money issues. I'll support this 100%
i wasnt saying to wait for the redo, just that because there's already something in the works that might ammount to the same thing, waiting 12 hours wouldnt hurt, especially considering the results of this poll. Either way Reno_Racks is doing an extremely generous thing for the community as is @Son of Timett. Though waiting 12 hours will make clear the details of this endeavor and whether there will be a pig tourny AND a reno/son tourny or if they'll collab. we need the details of the other one first though, and pig politely promised to give them tomorrow.
as a side note, im glad you're motivated again man. that's freaking awesome
 

CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
I had decided when I originally posted that if Madzin gave back the money in order to make the redo happen I would leave my offer on the table since I already committed to using it for this. Then Lulzlou said some real heartfelt shit and now I'm definitely going through with it. So if Madzin gives back the money it'll be $500 tournament cause I'm putting my money in anyways. Hype!
Very generous my friend. I'll be in touch with you tomorrow. Expect a PM tomorrow.
 

Son ov Timett

Bork, No Jin
Aye. My offer stands as well.

Since the xbox tourney concluded in a "controversial" fashion, why not include any willing participants from that one as well? One uber tournament of death. Scratch the redux and do a Frank Dux. It's all up to you lads though, do as you will.

 

VOR

Apprentice
I was going to post this in the "Is Reo's/Marvaz's action bad for the mk community?" thread, but here it is anyways. If this would have happened in Aug 2011, everyone in the community would be furious. Since the game in now closing in on the end of its time in the limelight, most people inevitably care less. If you guys wanna do the redo, or new tournament, go for it, and keep doing more. Sucks this shit had to happen, since Madzin is an awesome Noob too.
 

Krayzie

Co-founder
Administrator
Founder
Like I mentioned on another thread. After thinking about it longer, Madzin should definitely take the winnings.

But I did not expect this. Reno and Timett, thats a very generous thing to do. You guys are awesome.

I wasn't going to play because this whole situation left a bad taste in my mouth. I guess if I look at the bright side, it was awesome chillin with you guys in the chat. I never knew who Khaotic was up until this tournament, and it was fun getting to know and watching you all play.

I'll definitely enter this if you guys are still down to do it. Quite honestly, I wouldn't even care if it didn't have money in it. As long as it was just as fun as the last time.

And no disrespect to Madzin, but definitely make this region locked. As much as I'd love to play them, its a terrible connection.
 

DJ L Toro

Champion
I was going to post this in the "Is Reo's/Marvaz's action bad for the mk community?" thread, but here it is anyways. If this would have happened in Aug 2011, everyone in the community would be furious. Since the game in now closing in on the end of its time in the limelight, most people inevitably care less. If you guys wanna do the redo, or new tournament, go for it, and keep doing more. Sucks this shit had to happen, since Madzin is an awesome Noob too.
Actually the timing is what, i think, makes a redo problematic because in order to go to something like MLG you have to do everyhting in advance for it to be even reasonably affordable. plaine tickets/van or car rental, hotel booking, buying passes, food allocation, and so on. therefore doing a redo this late (september is basically over, that means it's one month before or less. prices are about to skyrocket) is very problematic because of how expensive stuff will be by the time it's done. i find it unlikely that this will be doable next weekend because people will likely have plans. MAYBE the weekend after that but that's really pushing it.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Had to get this out of the way first

Reno_Racks and @Son ov Timett donate their time and money

REO and Marvaz offer no money after causing a disaster

......Seems legit

One day id like to see REO or Marvaz organize an event like this or do something nice for the community other than troll and offer their .2 cents. For this situation their opinions are ignored

On main topic: Everything is being worked on behind scene where EVERYONE can be happy. All need to relax
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
The problem is, Espio, Sinh3ll, Khaotik, Krayzie, and Chris Friday were all knocked to losers.

Any one of them may not have been knocked to losers if REO wasn't playing, so the entire tournament would have been different. I honestly believe those players got screwed.

But then again, taking away Madzin's win is also screwing him... so really, REO or Marvaz should pay Madzin and everyone else should get the redo. In a perfect world, of course.
 

aj1701

Champion
Hey
@Madzin (sorry for calling you madlib bro, i suck with names)
@CRUM
@Blund_Man_88
@SINH3LL
@XxV1p3rxX
@Mr_SI3go
@Impactinfinity
@Chris_Friday
@BODYBAG-DTONESRC
@Mosp
@Trepound
@B W1zZ
@BODYBAG-VINLOKO
@aj1701
If you guys approve I would like to put up the $250 pot myself and do a redo of the entire tournament. If Madzin wants to keep the money he earned he should but then all the other players in the tournament who want to have a fair shot will have no money to compete for. So the money's gotta come from somewhere, might as well be me. Plus I think it would be pretty awesome to see what would have happened if Reo had not played last night. IMO this time the tourney should be region locked even though I would love to see Madzin's godlike Noob do some work again. You guys speak on this and as soon as Pig gives me the go ahead I will pay Hatake Osawa and they can reorganize this thing. On a side note I want to see Dink's Baraka and Madzin's Noob duke it out in a "Battle of the Godlike Low tiers", that shit would be great.
I'd be down. That's very generous as well!

I'm really amazed we have people like this that are willing to help turn a negative around. I hope that the winnings go to getting someone to Dallas or another major though, that's a big part of why I entered was just to support in some way.
 
I honestly don't care if there is a redo or not

I can't even decide if I want to compete again or not if it happens. Online as a whole has been really shitty lately. I don't have anyone to play with regularly that has a consistent good connection with me. So many players lacking respect and abusing online bullshit when I'm there to learn mu's. Since I can't level up anymore from it whats the point in playing online still?
i love you, lol jk. PSN: MalcolmX_01. you need my help, i need your help
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
I only read the first page, but imo it's a completely stupid idea that Madzin should just get it and the tournament should not be redone. Yes, I understand that Madzin beat REO so it seems like it shouldn't matter, but that doesn't tell the whole story. There are so many factors you have to take into account, such as the psychological effect of being on the losers side and the people who could've potentially beaten Madzin but never got the chance because marvaz/reo fucked up the bracket (i.e., Krayzie was sent to losers by marvaz/reo, beat Bodybag-Vinloko there, and lost to Madzin. If it weren't for marvaz/reo, Krayzie could've stayed in winners and there's a chance Bodybag-Vinloko could have beaten Madzin). This isn't a single-elim tournament, the point is that you get winners and losers. Saying "they lost to Madzin in losers anyway" shouldn't mean anything.

Also, imagine if someone like Khaotik or Krayzie stayed in winners and made it to grand finals (which they couldn't do because of marvaz/reo). The point is that if you're in winners, you get two ft3 sets to win. Even though both these players were eliminated by Madzin, who's to say they wouldn't have won the reset in a grand finals situation?
 
Hey

@Madzin (sorry for calling you madlib bro, i suck with names)
@CRUM
@Blund_Man_88
@SINH3LL
@XxV1p3rxX
@Mr_SI3go
@Impactinfinity
@Chris_Friday
@BODYBAG-DTONESRC
@Mosp
@Trepound
@B W1zZ
@BODYBAG-VINLOKO
@aj1701
If you guys approve I would like to put up the $250 pot myself and do a redo of the entire tournament. If Madzin wants to keep the money he earned he should but then all the other players in the tournament who want to have a fair shot will have no money to compete for. So the money's gotta come from somewhere, might as well be me. Plus I think it would be pretty awesome to see what would have happened if Reo had not played last night. IMO this time the tourney should be region locked even though I would love to see Madzin's godlike Noob do some work again. You guys speak on this and as soon as Pig gives me the go ahead I will pay Hatake Osawa and they can reorganize this thing. On a side note I want to see Dink's Baraka and Madzin's Noob duke it out in a "Battle of the Godlike Low tiers", that shit would be great.
*Shaqs voice* your not like other people are you?
 
I had decided when I originally posted that if Madzin gave back the money in order to make the redo happen I would leave my offer on the table since I already committed to using it for this. Then Lulzlou said some real heartfelt shit and now I'm definitely going through with it. So if Madzin gives back the money it'll be $500 tournament cause I'm putting my money in anyways. Hype!
cant be human
 

Grumptronix

Fuck off, I'm not grumpy
I only read the first page, but imo it's a completely stupid idea that Madzin should just get it and the tournament should not be redone. Yes, I understand that Madzin beat REO so it seems like it shouldn't matter, but that doesn't tell the whole story. There are so many factors you have to take into account, such as the psychological effect of being on the losers side and the people who could've potentially beaten Madzin but never got the chance because marvaz/reo fucked up the bracket (i.e., Krayzie was sent to losers by marvaz/reo, beat Bodybag-Vinloko there, and lost to Madzin. If it weren't for marvaz/reo, Krayzie could've stayed in winners and there's a chance Bodybag-Vinloko could have beaten Madzin). This isn't a single-elim tournament, the point is that you get winners and losers. Saying "they lost to Madzin in losers anyway" shouldn't mean anything.

Also, imagine if someone like Khaotik or Krayzie stayed in winners and made it to grand finals (which they couldn't do because of marvaz/reo). The point is that if you're in winners, you get two ft3 sets to win. Even though both these players were eliminated by Madzin, who's to say they wouldn't have won the reset in a grand finals situation?

Read the whole thread before giving your redundant 2 cents.