What is Wrong With These People!? - The U.S. Politics Discussion Thread

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[rev0lver]

It's not a basic misunderstanding, the scientist said himself conducting the studies. Can weed kill you? Probably not, for the amount would have to be really high and in a small window of time. However does it effect your brain when smoked heavily? Yes. And he stated this with that little test they gave the 7 people who smoked vs. people who didn't...

lol....

The scientist?

Oh, you mean the student. I guess you didn't read the top of the page and have no idea what an actual research paper looks like.

Let me show you what this study actually found:


"The results of the studies discussed above demonstrate that many heavy users of marijuana experience some form of memory or brain impairment".

So let me show you what the difference is here:

What the study found - Heavy users of marijuana perform worse on certain cognitive tasks
What the study didn't find - Marijuana contributes to impairment in certain cognitive tasks

For the last time, correlation DOES NOT mean causation. This was a correlational study. And again, has NOTHING to do with killing brain cells. So admit that it doesn't kill brain cells.

 

[Zoidberg747]

This thread just turned from one troll to like three. God damn Revolver, if he does not want to believe proof than LET HIM NOT BELIEVE. My friend told me the other day that Obama has acquired more debt than every other president combined. Let that sink in for a minute. Now of course I responded with the obvious fact that that is not even possible, and that even if you go back to the Bush administration he had two wars to take care of instead of one. But he said his parents are the ones who told him and he trusts their judgement over mine. Did I call him an idiot and yell "WHY WILL YOU NOT ACCEPT THE TRUTH" a billion times? No, I said believe what you want and move on. The fact is some people are so set in their views that not even facts will change them. So what? It is politics, that is kind of a huge part. Arguing with MKF has gotten no where and honestly is ruining the thread. You know you are right, you know he is wrong, let it the hell go.

Also for the record anyone who thinks the Bush Administration did any better than the Obama Administration has done is just in denial. You can still be conservative and realize that guy was a joke of a president, and a ton of his shitty foreign policies are what has caused Obama's term to be slightly less effective than it could have been(This isnt the only reason, but it is a major one)

 

[Purple Haze]

Dude you need to calm the fuck down. I remembered the temp of the sun incorrectly. No need to be a dick bag, I'm sure you make mistakes too.

How am I not calm? Where's an angry post directed at you?

You kept denying a simple fact of science even when I produced proof. Then you tried to score some stupid point over spelling differences. The only 'dick bag' is you as you've been on several occasions in this thread with ignorant stuff but I haven't bothered saying anything until now.

At least you know why the sun appears yellow now.

 

[aj1701]

How am I not calm? Where's an angry post directed at you?

You kept denying a simple fact of science even when I produced proof. Then you tried to score some stupid point over spelling differences. The only 'dick bag' is you as you've been on several occasions in this thread with ignorant stuff but I haven't bothered saying anything until now.

At least you know why the sun appears yellow now.

The angry post is the one I replied to, and sorry you can't tell that I was joking on the spelling difference. Except for my mistake about what color the sun currently is, I haven't gotten any facts wrong. You may not like my opinion on some topics, but that doesn't make them ignorant.

 

[Purple Haze]

The angry post is the one I replied to, and sorry you can't tell that I was joking on the spelling difference. Except for my mistake about what color the sun currently is, I haven't gotten any facts wrong. You may not like my opinion on some topics, but that doesn't make them ignorant.

It wasn't angry in the slightest. You just wanted it to be. And like many in this thread you have problems telling the difference between your opinion and fact. And you may want to brush up on your humoUr.

 

[eks]

You clearly just flaming me proves you have no counter point because you don't like what I said, too bad, and you're very good at looking like an ignorant tool of the mainstream media 24/7.

Aren't you the guy who said we'll have to agree to disagree because YOU couldn't come up with a rational reason for keeping it illegal? That's called a cop-out and it means, in no uncertain terms, that you are wrong and that you know it. He didn't insult you because he has no counter-point; he did it because you're frustrating and irrational.

LOL @ there not being a high demand for it, too. The only reason it's illegal is because that's the easiest/most-profitable way for the government to make money from it. Weed is an extremely resilient plant that can grow very well with a small amount work and materials. Hell, entire CROPS are grown in basements. Because it's so easy to grow, most people would probably just grow their own supply, but then the government would be losing a lot of money because they wouldn't be able to tax it or make anywhere near the money they do by keeping it illegal.

 

[MKF30]

eks


First of all, you saying "I couldn't come up with a rational reason for making it legal"

Actually, I did so that's your personal opinion. Which is really irrelevant not for nothing. Others have told me they agree, and I even said it's not even so much that I'm "against weed" itself, but rather what it'll lead to and that overall I just can't see more "good things" happening from it then bad...this is where a single person has yet to prove me wrong. Why is it good outside of sick patients? hmm, "recreational use" yeah...poor argument. And what does that lead to? ohh, people getting high and drunk and doing stupid shit daily. Perhaps there's some benefits in terms of profits but I'm talking more along the lines of moral and ethical reasons why it's not a great idea.

Ok, if there's such a high demand for it, then tell me why hasn't it been legalized yet already? lol exactly. And no, he insulted me because he had no point and let his emotions get the better of him. Thus, the liberal mentality. Instead of making solid points it's easier to call someone else a bigot, sorry but that's a flawed and failed argument. You're only defending him because you happen to agree with him politically here on weed. Sorry, but I can see thru obvious bias at times.




lol I'm not being a dickbag AJ, and I'm not even that angry to be honest. Just tired of trying to get thru to some people on here...if I was being a "dickbag" as you say I'd just flame everyone, clearly I'm not doing that or going to. No point and that's hardly productive.

@Revolver, yeah you know scientists did these studies right? Minus that one article where a student conducted his own studies...I'm referring to various links.​

I see, so in other words what it comes down to is this​

"The results of the studies discussed above demonstrate that many heavy users of marijuana experience some form of memory or brain impairment".​

You feel that this quote implies "correlation means causation" or that I said that? Which I never did...so yeah, why do you keep saying that? I'm merely pointing out the facts, as you and few others here keep denying but I'm not going to force anything down anyone's throat at this point. I'm saying either WAY, heavy smokers=have a negative effect on the brain as they didn't do as well as the opposition in sober people who took the test without smoking weed. That is my point. I really don't care if it kills or not brain cells, either way it still effects the brains functions in not a good way and increases risks of heart attacks.​

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I love how these little things are just ignored but then I'm here trying to get thru to stoners and potheads so I should like go back in time and tell myself, are you serious dude? It's like someone trying to tell me to stop playing MK, just not going to happen lol.​

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[eks]

First of all, you saying "I couldn't come up with a rational reason for making it legal"

Actually, I did so that's your personal opinion. Which is really irrelevant not for nothing. Others have told me they agree, and I even said it's not even so much that I'm "against weed" itself, but rather what it'll lead to and that overall I just can't see more "good things" happening from it then bad...this is where a single person has yet to prove me wrong. Why is it good outside of sick patients? hmm, "recreational use" yeah...poor argument. And what does that lead to? ohh, people getting high and drunk and doing stupid shit daily. Perhaps there's some benefits in terms of profits but I'm talking more along the lines of moral and ethical reasons why it's not a great idea.

You mentioned a buncha conjecture and outright bullshit, but nothing tangible.

Who are you (or the government) to say what is and isn't moral for everyone else? Have you ever even tried weed?

You wanna know why it's good outside of sick patients? How about the fact that it allows people to relax after a busy day at work? How about generally reducing stress? (I have an uncle who's smoked pretty regularly for about 45 years and he's never been arrested (for drugs or anything else) and raised 3 kids that weren't even his.) How about the fact that many users feel it inspires creativity? How about the fact that the government shouldn't be meddling in our personal freedoms? How about reducing the crime rate, and thereby, the prison population? (Both of which cost tax-payers a LOT of money.)

Just because nobody's given an individualized list to counter every menial "bad thing" you put up doesn't mean that the bad wouldn't outweigh the good. You can't directly measure shit like that.

Ok, if there's such a high demand for it, then tell me why hasn't it been legalized yet already? lol exactly. And no, he insulted me because he had no point and let his emotions get the better of him. Thus, the liberal mentality. Instead of making solid points it's easier to call someone else a bigot, sorry but that's a flawed and failed argument. You're only defending him because you happen to agree with him politically here on weed. Sorry, but I can see thru obvious bias at times.

Obvious bias? I just explained why the government doesn't legalize it, but I'm the one who's biased? OK, genius.

I wasn't defending him as much as explaining why his claims of you being an idiot have merit.

 

[rev0lver]

@Revolver, yeah you know scientists did these studies right? Minus that one article where a student conducted his own studies...I'm referring to various links.​

I see, so in other words what it comes down to is this​

"The results of the studies discussed above demonstrate that many heavy users of marijuana experience some form of memory or brain impairment".​

You feel that this quote implies "correlation means causation" or that I said that? Which I never did...so yeah, why do you keep saying that? I'm merely pointing out the facts, as you and few others here keep denying but I'm not going to force anything down anyone's throat at this point. I'm saying either WAY, heavy smokers=have a negative effect on the brain as they didn't do as well as the opposition in sober people who took the test without smoking weed. That is my point. I really don't care if it kills or not brain cells, either way it still effects the brains functions in not a good way and increases risks of heart attacks.​

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I love how these little things are just ignored but then I'm here trying to get thru to stoners and potheads so I should like go back in time and tell myself, are you serious dude? It's like someone trying to tell me to stop playing MK, just not going to happen lol.​

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NO, you're still completely missing the point. This is the difference, ONCE AFUCKINGGAIN:

what it found: heavy users of marijuana experience some form of memory or brain impairment
what it didn't find: heavy marijuana use causes some form of memory or brain impairment

are you telling me you don't understand the difference here? i never thought it would be so hard to explain how scientific research works to someone who doesn't know anything about it.

learn2science

so now you don't care if it kills brain cells or not? ok, but it doesn't, as the evidence clearly showed. so instead of admitting it, you just say you don't care, that's how much of an ego you have.

 

[aj1701]

eks


First of all, you saying "I couldn't come up with a rational reason for making it legal"

Actually, I did so that's your personal opinion. Which is really irrelevant not for nothing. Others have told me they agree, and I even said it's not even so much that I'm "against weed" itself, but rather what it'll lead to and that overall I just can't see more "good things" happening from it then bad...this is where a single person has yet to prove me wrong. Why is it good outside of sick patients? hmm, "recreational use" yeah...poor argument. And what does that lead to? ohh, people getting high and drunk and doing stupid shit daily. Perhaps there's some benefits in terms of profits but I'm talking more along the lines of moral and ethical reasons why it's not a great idea.

Ok, if there's such a high demand for it, then tell me why hasn't it been legalized yet already? lol exactly. And no, he insulted me because he had no point and let his emotions get the better of him. Thus, the liberal mentality. Instead of making solid points it's easier to call someone else a bigot, sorry but that's a flawed and failed argument. You're only defending him because you happen to agree with him politically here on weed. Sorry, but I can see thru obvious bias at times.




lol I'm not being a dickbag AJ, and I'm not even that angry to be honest. Just tired of trying to get thru to some people on here...if I was being a "dickbag" as you say I'd just flame everyone, clearly I'm not doing that or going to. No point and that's hardly productive.

@Revolver, yeah you know scientists did these studies right? Minus that one article where a student conducted his own studies...I'm referring to various links.​

I see, so in other words what it comes down to is this​

"The results of the studies discussed above demonstrate that many heavy users of marijuana experience some form of memory or brain impairment".​

You feel that this quote implies "correlation means causation" or that I said that? Which I never did...so yeah, why do you keep saying that? I'm merely pointing out the facts, as you and few others here keep denying but I'm not going to force anything down anyone's throat at this point. I'm saying either WAY, heavy smokers=have a negative effect on the brain as they didn't do as well as the opposition in sober people who took the test without smoking weed. That is my point. I really don't care if it kills or not brain cells, either way it still effects the brains functions in not a good way and increases risks of heart attacks.​

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I love how these little things are just ignored but then I'm here trying to get thru to stoners and potheads so I should like go back in time and tell myself, are you serious dude? It's like someone trying to tell me to stop playing MK, just not going to happen lol.​

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That post wasnt to you.

 

[MKF30]

rev, no you are man lol. I'm talking about general impairment and effects on the brain when smoked heavily and often. Period. lol I know all about it, you're the one missing a simple concept denying that weed has "any negative effect or impairment" on the brain. Whatever man, you're a stoner so I don't expect you to understand...ego? lol hardly, I don't care to be honest. I'm not the one going around acting as if I know everything. I did though at one point...when I was younger. You'll learn.

That post wasnt to you.

Oh, my fault then


eks, not really bullshit since it's obvious fact and the rest is just my opinion but feel free to call it what you wish. Yeah, on the bias thing whatever guy.

OMG, you just don't get it. I'm NOT forcing people what to do, I just said HOW I felt morally as it's my RIGHT. Don't like it? too bad, lol yeah I don't like nor agree with your opinions either but you're still entitled to it. Yes, I have it's garbage and tastes and smells like garbage and makes you stupid. Happy?

Well, I disagree with you on "why it's good for recreational uses" ok, umm first off all that's your opinion. You know what else you can do to relax aftera hard days work? hmm, work out, hang out with friends, have sex, meditate, sleep, read a book, play video games as it actually is good for your brain believe it or not (some games more so then others though), yoga, having a drink(not getting wasted, having a drink or two), playing sports etc, etc I can go on and on but yeah, you act as if "weed" is the only solution to escaping problems and relaxing...I don't get your uncle never being arrested point at all, I have relatives and friends who've smoked pot yet never got arrested(they also never got caught) so yeah...I've done things that were questionable when I was a kid, but I don't see how that's relevant to weed and how it effects people, and why some want it to smoke at 7/11.

Crime rate actually in certain parts of the USA is reduced, example? NYC where I live...compared to the Dinkins era. Crime will never be ridded completely unless you have a real life Justice League that people fear, but we can reduce it. Drugs however, don't help anyone unless it's for a medical purpose more times then not. You can't convince me weed, coc, crack, meth etc does more good then bad. And tax money? Maybe if politicians reduced taxes and instead of putting more of it in their pockets, let the people have more money to save and use maybe? Just an idea. You keep saying "government shouldn't control us" yes I agree, then that includes taking more money then they need and thinking they know what's best for the people, when the people can think and do for ourselves.

 

[rev0lver]

rev, no you are man lol. I'm talking about general impairment and effects on the brain when smoked heavily and often. Period. lol I know all about it, you're the one missing a simple concept denying that weed has "any negative effect or impairment" on the brain. Whatever man, you're a stoner so I don't expect you to understand...ego? lol hardly, I don't care to be honest. I'm not the one going around acting as if I know everything. I did though at one point...when I was younger. You'll learn.

Yeah I learned how to understand how research works and what a fact is in school. Maybe you should learn these things.

Are you really going to use this circular logic again? There is no proof about impairment when smoked heavily and often, why am I feeling like I have to explain this again because you can't understand the smallest concepts? Nothing you posted showed a link between marijuana use and mental impairment. Whatever man, you're a dumbass so I don't expect you to understand.

By the way, you're so out of your league here it's ridiculous. That's why everyone else realizes I'm correct, which I couldn't possibly not be in this argument. You thought you knew something about weed, found out you were wrong, and still fight to hold that belief even in the face of every reason why you're wrong. Honorable, I suppose, but naive and stupid as well.

 

[aj1701]

OMG, you just don't get it. I'm NOT forcing people what to do, I just said HOW I felt morally as it's my RIGHT.

You've said pot should continue to be illegal, which is forcing a bunch of people NOT to do something, or if they choose to do it, risk legal consequences. If you said "hey I don't think people should be doing weed recreationally, but I support their right to do so anyway" that would be different. Supporting criminalization of recreational drug use IS violating personal freedom. Of course with freedom comes responsiblity. If your drug use causes harm to others, that should increase, not decrease the penalty. Kill someone b/c you were DUI, automatic first degree murder.

 

[Verstande]

30 pages of nonsense going back and forth from mk, purple, and revolver =(

This isn't even a politics thread anymore.

 

[Zoidberg747]

So now that it has been scientifically proven that being homosexual is not a choice, is there any justifiable reason for Congress and other politicians to KEEP denying them rights? This has always bothered me, like the new laws that are protecting gun owners and hunters. Those people spout bullshit about how they have rights but gays don't too? What is the difference between gays and them, except that gays as a whole are a lot less dangerous(And with regards to the hunters, less detrimental to the environment).

Thoughts?

 

[aj1701]

So now that it has been scientifically proven that being homosexual is not a choice, is there any justifiable reason for Congress and other politicians to KEEP denying them rights? This has always bothered me, like the new laws that are protecting gun owners and hunters. Those people spout bullshit about how they have rights but gays don't too? What is the difference between gays and them, except that gays as a whole are a lot less dangerous(And with regards to the hunters, less detrimental to the environment).

Thoughts?

Ya, I never understood the reasoning that its ok to deny rights if it was a choice. Like, who cares if it is or not? I don't see how it should affect a persons rights. The right to bear arms is meant to allow you to protect yourself from danger, its really the right to defense more than anything.

Hunters don't always have a negative impact on the environment. In many cases they are helping control populations of animals which no longer have any natural preditors (likely our fault) or are not indigenous.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Ya, I never understood the reasoning that its ok to deny rights if it was a choice. Like, who cares if it is or not? I don't see how it should affect a persons rights. The right to bear arms is meant to allow you to protect yourself from danger, its really the right to defense more than anything.

Hunters don't always have a negative impact on the environment. In many cases they are helping control populations of animals which no longer have any natural preditors (likely our fault) or are not indigenous.

Im talking about the new law they are making that prevents the government from protecting any animal species. It will give hunters the right to go into any national parks and just start hunting. It prevents the government from making any laws or creating sanctuaries. Scary stuff. And yet gays are more dangerous to some people(I do see your point though and have no problem with hunting, as long as it is controlled)

I understand the right to bear arms, I am just point out the hypocrisy of all these gunowners being so uptight about their PERSONAL CHOICE but when someone is gay then they shouldnt get rights at all.

 

[aj1701]

Im talking about the new law they are making that prevents the government from protecting any animal species. It will give hunters the right to go into any national parks and just start hunting. It prevents the government from making any laws or creating sanctuaries. Scary stuff. And yet gays are more dangerous to some people(I do see your point though and have no problem with hunting, as long as it is controlled)

I understand the right to bear arms, I am just point out the hypocrisy of all these gunowners being so uptight about their PERSONAL CHOICE but when someone is gay then they shouldnt get rights at all.

Oh damn, I didn't know about that law. That is bs.

 

[eks]

OMG, you just don't get it. I'm NOT forcing people what to do, I just said HOW I felt morally as it's my RIGHT. Don't like it? too bad, lol yeah I don't like nor agree with your opinions either but you're still entitled to it. Yes, I have it's garbage and tastes and smells like garbage and makes you stupid. Happy?

You'd vote against weed if it were on a ballot, and that's where you would be forcing your opinion/morals onto others.

Well, I disagree with you on "why it's good for recreational uses" ok, umm first off all that's your opinion. You know what else you can do to relax aftera hard days work? hmm, work out, hang out with friends, have sex, meditate, sleep, read a book, play video games as it actually is good for your brain believe it or not (some games more so then others though), yoga, having a drink(not getting wasted, having a drink or two), playing sports etc, etc I can go on and on but yeah, you act as if "weed" is the only solution to escaping problems and relaxing...I don't get your uncle never being arrested point at all, I have relatives and friends who've smoked pot yet never got arrested(they also never got caught) so yeah...I've done things that were questionable when I was a kid, but I don't see how that's relevant to weed and how it effects people, and why some want it to smoke at 7/11.

This is why people say you're an idiot. I've never said or implied that weed is the only way you can wind down after a hard day at work. I'm saying that there's nothing wrong with using weed for that purpose. You're fucking stupid if you think alcohol is a good alternative to weed.

I was countering what you said that legalizing weed will lead to other things with that anecdote about my uncle. Yeah, there are people who would over-use it, but, for the most part, that's not gonna be the case.

Crime rate actually in certain parts of the USA is reduced, example? NYC where I live...compared to the Dinkins era. Crime will never be ridded completely unless you have a real life Justice League that people fear, but we can reduce it. Drugs however, don't help anyone unless it's for a medical purpose more times then not. You can't convince me weed, coc, crack, meth etc does more good then bad. And tax money? Maybe if politicians reduced taxes and instead of putting more of it in their pockets, let the people have more money to save and use maybe? Just an idea. You keep saying "government shouldn't control us" yes I agree, then that includes taking more money then they need and thinking they know what's best for the people, when the people can think and do for ourselves.

Once again, I never said weed would ELIMINATE (or "ridded completely" for the less literate) crime. It will reduce it. I also don't think saying "it doesn't help anyone" is a decent argument for shitting on our personal freedoms.

LMFAO @ the part about politicians not taking so much money. Keep living in your fantasy world.

 

[rev0lver]

Yeah, weed legalization would definitely reduce crime, it's not even a question. The business lost from it would hit the drug gangs hard. It's funny how right after the shit alcohol prohibition caused, the lawmakers created a whole new monster. And let's not forget about the kids who get arrested for weed and end up much worse once they go through the system.

This thread has convinced me about people with the political beliefs of MKF relying on feelings instead of facts. It shouldn't surprise me that me and people like me thought the same things as him before finding out some things I thought I knew were wrong.

 

[MKF30]

@Revol,

I did learn these things 10 years ago when you were in diapers, thanks...and already know heavy weed smokers=impair you judgement. Don't believe me, fine dude lol. Like I said earlier believe what you want. You are apparently color blind to this topic when it comes to "weed messing with brain chemistry" on any level...uh, I don't care about what "everyone else" who btw isn't everyone on this site, but a few of your little groupies that I really don't care about, means nothing. I know tons of people outside of this site who agree with me, so your point? I'm hardly out of anyone's league, you're the one that's wrong and living in denial but I find it amusing at this point. BTW, to prove my theory. Play me in MK sober, see how you do, then play high as hell and see how you do...if the results "are the same" then we'll talk. Later

You've said pot should continue to be illegal, which is forcing a bunch of people NOT to do something, or if they choose to do it, risk legal consequences. If you said "hey I don't think people should be doing weed recreationally, but I support their right to do so anyway" that would be different. Supporting criminalization of recreational drug use IS violating personal freedom. Of course with freedom comes responsiblity. If your drug use causes harm to others, that should increase, not decrease the penalty. Kill someone b/c you were DUI, automatic first degree murder.

Dude, it's just my opinion ok...and trust me, if people want it BAD enough they'll get weed, it's not like it's that hard to get...ever hear of the black market? lol as long as whatever is illegal, there's always demand for it on the black market, if you know people who know people it's easy as pie to get. Well, there you go, and yes I've said that before. I don't know why you have an issue with my views. I said when the topic of weed first came up. "I fully support weed for medical purposes only...just not recreational"

So I'm not sure what I said there that offended you and so many like this eks kid. Did I ever say I think people should be sentenced to jail or something for it? Hell no, I think people if anything should get a fine for it something small but jailtime for smoking weed? I think that should be for killers and serious offenders, terrorists etc not some punk stoner getting high.

Yeah, so let me ask you what if someone smokes 4 bags of weed and kills someone behind the wheel, that ok but if someone drinks and is pulled over for DUI that's really bad right? To me, both are equal and if someone is high or drunk I really don't want either driving...

BTW, for hunting has no threat towards the environment..yeah, while I agree some folks need to eat that way, tell that to the animal and PETA people lol...

eks,

This is where your comprehension seriously fails....who the fuck said I'm "forcing" my views onto anyone? No, no and NO! It's merely my opinion so stfu and respect, god damn. You people are so damn sensitive by another person's perspective. Good christ..​

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I'm not FORCING my opinion onto anyone, stop being so sensitive like a little girl or something and man up to differences in perspectives...you act as if I'm voting down "water" it's a damn drug that is useless outside of sick patients.​

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Actually, only idiots think I'm an idiot. Which I mind you couldn't care less about. Like I said, you people want to go with typical liberal mentality ​

Person A: I don't like drugs​

Person B: You're an idiot and bigot​

Person A: Why? Because I disagree with your opinion?​

GTFO with that shit seriously and get a real argument...because I'm not impressed by your generic "pull the bigot card he's hating on weed" argument, it's old already. Uhh, no, no you never implied "weed is the only answer for relaxing after a hard days work...you just used only that" in your argument...yet you call me an idiot lol..uh, I just said I don't support drinking either, can you not read? Both are fucking retarded as far as I'm concerned. As far as people wouldn't use it for that reason? lol uhh yeah..right. Dude, there's these punk kids who sneak outside my driveway few times a month to smoke weed, until I started shining my laser light at them(for fun) but freaked them out lol, not to mention they were trespassing and smoking. Both of which are illegal...so I don't have to imagine, I already know if weed gets the green light, we'll see more idiots out there doing dumb shit or acting retarded. I told you back in high school, one kid couldn't remember my name for shit after getting high and another tried starting with everyone while having bloodshot eyes...​

Less literate? Please dude, I aced English I merely worded it that way for your comprehension level. How the hell would weed reduce crime? lol The only thing it'll do is stop weed on the black market, big whoop. As far as reducing crime? My ass...personal freedoms, yes I'm all for that. Man, I'd so love to hear your case against that kid way back when I went to school who got stoned every day and started with everyone every other day. I bet you'd be like "it's not the weed effecting his better judgement, it's him being a dick" right? Which while was probably true, the kid did act like a mature human being when he wasn't stoned or when he had his weed confiscated by the dean.​

Yeah, well if liberals ruled the world you'd have NO money in your pocket, so yes I'll keep dreaming or best case, vote for logical politicians that don't want to take or waste my money on retarded shit.​

 

[Espio]

Revolver has groupies? LOL.

 

[Enenra]

Pasting>Smoking da ganj

 

[MKF30]

Pasting>Smoking da ganj

What's that? Maybe I'll try it since this thread gives me a headache lol.