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16 Bit

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
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NetherRealm Studios
Ok with the discovery of Cage and Liu Kang having random advantage bugs we need to test the entire roster. If you don't know how to test here's what you do. Go into practice mode and set the dummy to always duck block. Do a move and then as soon as it hits and is blocked pause and turn block off. If they quickly stand up then duck back down you have the random block advantage bug. Try it like 10 times just to be sure. We should go through every move and every hit of a string with every character. If you will volunteer to do this for your main please post the results, if you've discovered a move with the bug or if you've checked every move and they have none.

Left to test:
Kung Lao
Reptile
Nightwolf
Noob Saibot
Sonya
Baraka
Sheeva
Kratos
Freddy

No bugs:
Rain
Ermac
Shang Tsung
Jade?
Cyber Sub-Zero

Bugged:
Kitana: Fake Out Kick
Sub-Zero: 4
Stryker: 1,1,4(second hit)
Kenshi: 1,1,1
Sindel: 2
Scorpion: 3,3,4(last hit only)
Skarlet: f+3 and 1,1,2 and f+4,3
Sektor: b+1 and 1,1,b+1 and b+3,4
Smoke: 1,1 and f+4(last hit only)
Raiden: 2,2,b+4(last hit only) and b+2,f+1
Kabal: b+1,2,1
Kano: 2,1,2 and choke
Quan Chi: b+1,1 and f+1,1+2
Johnny Cage: f+3
Liu Kang: b+4 and f+4 and b+2,3
Jax: f+4,1,3
Cyrax(both costumes): 2,2
Mileena: f+2
 
GNG Iniquity

GNG Iniquity

#bufftaquito #punchwalk #whiffycage
Liu Kang does indeed have random advantage? I asked Somberness about his b312 (which is what string I think you're referring to?)

edit: nvm, found the thread - b2,3 , b4 and f4. Liu and Jax really get to take advantage of this crouch blocking advantage shit, since you're always crouch blocking them. I'll try to commit some time to Quan tonight, if I find anything I'll let you guys know. Sektor should also be looked at. Possibly Kano and Shang as well.

It's really the characters that you're actively crouch blocking against which makes this a major issue, not saying that Cage isn't a issue but nowhere near Jax and Liu.
 
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16 Bit

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
I can confirm Kitana's only bugged move is Fake Out Kick.
 
Altaire

Altaire

Dojo Trainee
I know off-hand that Cyber Sub's B1 is bugged. It's only around +1 or +2 normally, but when I was testing it, I was randomly getting huge advantage. If I had to estimate, I'd say it was around +10.
 
16 Bit

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
Altaire said:
I know off-hand that Cyber Sub's B1 is bugged. It's only around +1 or +2 normally, but when I was testing it, I was randomly getting huge advantage. If I had to estimate, I'd say it was around +10.
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interesting, the standing up bug doesn't seem to ever happen.
 
GuamoKun

GuamoKun

I Break Hearts, Not Combos
I thought I did it wrong until I tried Kitana and found that 16bit's information was true.

EDIT: I tried testing Altaire's information on b1, it isn't doing the standing up bug like 16bit says.

Maybe its not as common?
 
Z-911-Z

Z-911-Z

Bone and Metal
Kano's 212 string is bugged. I also could've sworn I saw Baraka(My dummy) stand up briefly after a blocked choke, but I can't seem to replicate it...

GuamoKun said:
I thought I did it wrong until I tried Kitana and found that 16bit's information was true.

EDIT: I tried testing Altaire's information on b1, it isn't doing the standing up bug like 16bit says.

Maybe its not as common?
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If my eyes weren't deceiving me about Kano's choke also being bugged, then there's definitely some sort of frequency factor since 212's bug shows up at least once every three times I did it and I tried to replicate the choke bug at least fifty times. =\
 
GhosT

GhosT

Dojo Trainee
Can someone explain this to me? So Liu gets extra frames of advantage when certain strings are blocked while ducking? Is that right?

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GNG Iniquity

GNG Iniquity

#bufftaquito #punchwalk #whiffycage
GhosT said:
Can someone explain this to me? So Liu gets extra frames of advantage when certain strings are blocked while ducking? Is that right?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Green Tapatalk
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Yeah, it's only related to crouch blocking.
 
Z-911-Z

Z-911-Z

Bone and Metal
Oh ho ho very funny Baraka. I go to start testing choke again and he FINALLY stands up again while blocking on the very first try. Okay, I wasn't being half-blind, but still.....dammit Baraka I hate you.
 
GNG Iniquity

GNG Iniquity

#bufftaquito #punchwalk #whiffycage
Konqrr said:
It feels to me that this is somehow related to the input bug. What the hell is up with crouching in this game... smh
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Yeah, I think you're right. This was originally coined 'the input bug' and now we're referring to it as 'random frame advantage'. Something's fucked with the crouching in this game, all I know.
 
16 Bit

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
Wow Quan Chi and Kano 2,1,2 confirmed. Good shit guys. Can't get choke to work.
 
Juggs

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Premium Supporter
So is there a video or a thread for Liu Kang's? I need this tech for Final Round so I don't go 0-2.
 
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