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Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
I was gonna post this as a response to the latest negativity thread:


But after giving in some thoughts, this one deserves it's own thread, because someone need to shove in the truth and the mirror to all of your faces ASAP.

@Juggs
@YagamiFire
@Vulgar
@Lt. Boxy Angelman
@mrapchem
@Eldriken
@M2Dave

There are more, but these are the main ones.

I love Mortal Kombat, and everything I said about MK1 is the truth, and my genuine and honest thoughts about the game.

You keep saying I'm a stan, mentally ill, delusional, yada yada yada.

But yet you, ALL OF YOU, keep buying the games, play the games, and talk about the games, even though you all hate them and can and can't stand them. And it's not just MK1, you keep doing this since MK9.

I keep praising MK games because I truly love them, and therefore I buy only them when it comes to fighting games, because these are the only fighting games I can truly enjoy right now. I used to buy and play all kinds of fighting games (MK, SF, SC, MVC, Tekken and more) but now I can't anymore. Ever since 2014, the only non-NRS/WB fighting game products I bought were SC6, DBFZ and the MVC collection that came last year (I also got to play Tekken 7 once, and it was fucking horrible, this the first time I truly felt what is like to play a stiff fighting game). And that is because there were the only Japanese fighting game products that looked good enough, and even these had some SUPER SERIOUS issues with them.

I'm voting with my wallet, but yet you keep not only spending so much time talking about a game series you don't like just because you liked the previous games, but you keep buying them and play them, AKA giving your money and time to WB, yet screaming so much for them to change their approach.

I even looked at the Tekken community recently, and I saw when those who hate Tekken 8 season 2 being asked why they wouldn't just stop playing and go play something else, they say that they can't stop playing just because they've spent so much money and time on the previous Tekken games, as if being a fan of an IP, is like being in a marriage with someone. All of your are no different than them when it comes to MK.

And you keep talking about me thinking NRS/WB can't do no wrong? 1) I called them out a few times in the past, I just don't think they did anything wrong when it comes to MK1, and 2) All of your toxic actions show that you think that YOU are the ones who think you can do wrong.

You think you can say and do whatever you want, even to the absolute extreme, and still think that everyone needs to hand you everything on a silver platter and go along with whatever you say or else you gonna tear them to shreds. And it came to the point that you need this like air, food and water. I agreed with @Vulgar about the history of MK, and immediately after that, what he does? He insulting me about the way I'm posting. And then starts a 2nd conversation with me, this time about Tekken lore, and it only took 2 posts before he insulted me again like a 7-year old with no mature counter points to my response.

All of that shows me that you are not MK fans, or least you used to be not you're no longer as such, instead, YOU ARE FANS OF EACH OTHER. You actually like the community more than you like the IP, and instead you are using the IP as a platform just to keep your fandom going.

So no, it's not me being a stan of NRS/WB, but it's you being stans of the community, and you only keep burying the community and the scene just for the sake of making the community to look superior!

Oh, you don't believe me? Answer me this:

When it was the last time ANY OF YOU have posted about tech, combos or guides in NRS/WB games, ESPECIALLY MK1? When it was the last time that you posted ANY RESPONSE OR COMMENT to tourney results news that DID NOT lead to trying to justify your bitching and crying about buffs and nerfs? And how is it that all Japanese companies make clearly bad decisions both in terms of gameplay, single player content, online, tourneies etc; but you ignore all of them almost all time and you still trying to make them look better than NRS/WB games, just like with that @YagamiFire did in his last response to me, or how @M2Dave kept praising Tekken 8 season 2 while still bashing MK1 despite clearly MK1 being the better game from the start and ESPECIALLY now compared to Tekken 8?

Even @Juggs admitted just a few days ago that arguing and bitching is the only thing keeping this site going, calling everyone who does that a "valuable asset", meaning that he, and perhaps SOME other higher ups here on TYM are only using all of you, and you still keep coming to this site, like a bunch of fucking mindless robots.

And then you wonder why NRS/WB don't wanna communicate with the community anymore, because of bullshit like this. Yes, it is partially because WB not allowing NRS to do so, but Ed Boon said himself that he loves to interact with the fans, and now he barely does that, and so is everyone else from NRS, with Dominic Cianciolo even deleting his Twitter account because kept harassing him so hard, and the hate against became so bad that people actually tried to make a petition for him to get fired (thankfully that petition failed so hard, but the fact that Dominic had to delete his account is still horrible). Also back in 2019, when the whole Sindel thing in MK11 erupted, people kept harassing Shawn Kittlesen, the one who worked with Dominic about the MK11 story, while he had to deal with personal issues with his child, all because of ONE CHARACTER IN A VIDEO GAME.

And you wonder why they barely wanna talk to you anymore. And it's only because of YOU.

THAT is being mentally ill, THAT is being unhealthy, THAT is being delusional, THAT is being parasocial

Until YOU GETTING BETTER, this site, this community, and this overall competitive scene, is always gonna stay in shambles. And yes, I know, this site is only one place, but it's one of the biggest culprits for the fall of the community and the scene, when it should be the opposite.

I left this site 5 years ago, and the only reason I came back was because @Mr Aquaman announced the overhaul for Kombat Akademy, because I wanted to contribute to Mortal Kombat 1, because I love the game and I'm so passionate about it and I wanted for more people to see what this game can offer. But the thing is, with how this fucking shit continues, with all of your pathetic toxicity pushing people away from this site and community, no one who is not already a member here is gonna see it, meaning only you are gonna benefit from it, and with your behavior, why should I give you any effort? I contributed to MK Secrets for the last 9 years, posting news, working on pages on the site such as the pages for secrets and Brutalities for MKX, making videos on my channel of all kinds for Mortal Kombat X, Mortal Kombat 11, Mortal Kombat 1 and also Injustice 2, trying to give everyone the proper info, and I know that people come from the outside to MK Secrets deserve to get the info. But this site, with only you, the bitches, being the ones that can benefit from my work, why should I?

I did true work for that Mortal Kombat series, because I love it. BUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP INSULTING ME AND DISRESPECTING ME, WHAT THE FUCK ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER DONE FOR THE LAST 9 YEARS?!?!?

I know that Mortal Kombat as a franchise is gonna keep going, MK1 is the best selling fighting game now with over 5 million copies, beating both SF6 and T8, and also being in the top 20 most played games on PS5, while SF6 and Tekken 8 are not in even in the top 100 most played games on any platform. So why should I contribute from a game I love, to a community that only loves themselves, but not the game. Yes, we are supposed to help each other, but we are supposed to do it IN THE NAME OF THE GAME, NOT THE EXPENSE OF THE GAME.

That's it, do whatever you want, I don't give a fuck about you at this point. I know, that no matter what, Mortal Kombat is the best and greatest fighting game series of all time, and Mortal Kombat 1 is, was and always will be PHENOMENAL!
 

FrozenG3oX

Kombatant
The game is good, NOT great, but it also doesn't help if we only complain even after they improved it, which they did after launch.

But there's still a lot to be improved or could have been improved which we don't know if they will.

Of course we buy the game, we like the franchise and it's the only game we have to play right now, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't say anything bad ab Mortal Kombat 1 or NRS because you think this is the best that they could have done.

Edit: I do agree that this forum should be used more for tech and talking about what we discovered rather than insulting eachother.
 
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Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Being a fan of something doesn’t mean you can’t be critical of it. In fact, the reason we are critical is precisely because we are fans and a lot of us have been lifelong fans. We want the best out of the MK games we play and NRS as a whole. Ignoring all the issues the game or company has doesn’t accomplish anything. You do not serve the community OR NRS by burying your head in the sand. That said, if you genuinely love the game and think that it’s perfect, you’re more than entitled to that opinion. The problem is when you start attacking others for not having that same opinion as well as completely ignoring all logic and reason. @CrimsonShadow loves MK1 but he at least is able to recognize when there are faults and that NRS and MK1 aren’t perfect. I mean, I really like MK1 as well, I just dislike certain aspects of it. My main issue is with NRS continuing to have the same issues like the lack of communication and transparency.

Anyway, not reading the rest of yet another one of your essays. And the only reason I responded is because you tagged me. It is beyond pointless trying to even have a conversation with you let alone an argument or debate. And a lot of how I feel about it I already said it in the other thread, so I’ll just put that quote here as well
I admire anyone who is super passionate about a game or franchise (or anything really), but when you stan them (or it) too hard to the point to where you’re incapable of having rational opinions or arguments (or being able to engage with either), and are unable to criticize them whatsoever, and think they can do no wrong, that goes beyond passion into an unhealthy obsession and delusion
 

Vulgar

Warrior
I was gonna post this as a response to the latest negativity thread:


But after giving in some thoughts, this one deserves it's own thread, because someone need to shove in the truth and the mirror to all of your faces ASAP.

@Juggs
@YagamiFire
@Vulgar
@Lt. Boxy Angelman
@mrapchem
@Eldriken
@M2Dave

There are more, but these are the main ones.

I love Mortal Kombat, and everything I said about MK1 is the truth, and my genuine and honest thoughts about the game.

You keep saying I'm a stan, mentally ill, delusional, yada yada yada.

But yet you, ALL OF YOU, keep buying the games, play the games, and talk about the games, even though you all hate them and can and can't stand them. And it's not just MK1, you keep doing this since MK9.

I keep praising MK games because I truly love them, and therefore I buy only them when it comes to fighting games, because these are the only fighting games I can truly enjoy right now. I used to buy and play all kinds of fighting games (MK, SF, SC, MVC, Tekken and more) but now I can't anymore. Ever since 2014, the only non-NRS/WB fighting game products I bought were SC6, DBFZ and the MVC collection that came last year (I also got to play Tekken 7 once, and it was fucking horrible, this the first time I truly felt what is like to play a stiff fighting game). And that is because there were the only Japanese fighting game products that looked good enough, and even these had some SUPER SERIOUS issues with them.

I'm voting with my wallet, but yet you keep not only spending so much time talking about a game series you don't like just because you liked the previous games, but you keep buying them and play them, AKA giving your money and time to WB, yet screaming so much for them to change their approach.

I even looked at the Tekken community recently, and I saw when those who hate Tekken 8 season 2 being asked why they wouldn't just stop playing and go play something else, they say that they can't stop playing just because they've spent so much money and time on the previous Tekken games, as if being a fan of an IP, is like being in a marriage with someone. All of your are no different than them when it comes to MK.

And you keep talking about me thinking NRS/WB can't do no wrong? 1) I called them out a few times in the past, I just don't think they did anything wrong when it comes to MK1, and 2) All of your toxic actions show that you think that YOU are the ones who think you can do wrong.

You think you can say and do whatever you want, even to the absolute extreme, and still think that everyone needs to hand you everything on a silver platter and go along with whatever you say or else you gonna tear them to shreds. And it came to the point that you need this like air, food and water. I agreed with @Vulgar about the history of MK, and immediately after that, what he does? He insulting me about the way I'm posting. And then starts a 2nd conversation with me, this time about Tekken lore, and it only took 2 posts before he insulted me again like a 7-year old with no mature counter points to my response.

All of that shows me that you are not MK fans, or least you used to be not you're no longer as such, instead, YOU ARE FANS OF EACH OTHER. You actually like the community more than you like the IP, and instead you are using the IP as a platform just to keep your fandom going.

So no, it's not me being a stan of NRS/WB, but it's you being stans of the community, and you only keep burying the community and the scene just for the sake of making the community to look superior!

Oh, you don't believe me? Answer me this:

When it was the last time ANY OF YOU have posted about tech, combos or guides in NRS/WB games, ESPECIALLY MK1? When it was the last time that you posted ANY RESPONSE OR COMMENT to tourney results news that DID NOT lead to trying to justify your bitching and crying about buffs and nerfs? And how is it that all Japanese companies make clearly bad decisions both in terms of gameplay, single player content, online, tourneies etc; but you ignore all of them almost all time and you still trying to make them look better than NRS/WB games, just like with that @YagamiFire did in his last response to me, or how @M2Dave kept praising Tekken 8 season 2 while still bashing MK1 despite clearly MK1 being the better game from the start and ESPECIALLY now compared to Tekken 8?

Even @Juggs admitted just a few days ago that arguing and bitching is the only thing keeping this site going, calling everyone who does that a "valuable asset", meaning that he, and perhaps SOME other higher ups here on TYM are only using all of you, and you still keep coming to this site, like a bunch of fucking mindless robots.

And then you wonder why NRS/WB don't wanna communicate with the community anymore, because of bullshit like this. Yes, it is partially because WB not allowing NRS to do so, but Ed Boon said himself that he loves to interact with the fans, and now he barely does that, and so is everyone else from NRS, with Dominic Cianciolo even deleting his Twitter account because kept harassing him so hard, and the hate against became so bad that people actually tried to make a petition for him to get fired (thankfully that petition failed so hard, but the fact that Dominic had to delete his account is still horrible). Also back in 2019, when the whole Sindel thing in MK11 erupted, people kept harassing Shawn Kittlesen, the one who worked with Dominic about the MK11 story, while he had to deal with personal issues with his child, all because of ONE CHARACTER IN A VIDEO GAME.

And you wonder why they barely wanna talk to you anymore. And it's only because of YOU.

THAT is being mentally ill, THAT is being unhealthy, THAT is being delusional, THAT is being parasocial

Until YOU GETTING BETTER, this site, this community, and this overall competitive scene, is always gonna stay in shambles. And yes, I know, this site is only one place, but it's one of the biggest culprits for the fall of the community and the scene, when it should be the opposite.

I left this site 5 years ago, and the only reason I came back was because @Mr Aquaman announced the overhaul for Kombat Akademy, because I wanted to contribute to Mortal Kombat 1, because I love the game and I'm so passionate about it and I wanted for more people to see what this game can offer. But the thing is, with how this fucking shit continues, with all of your pathetic toxicity pushing people away from this site and community, no one who is not already a member here is gonna see it, meaning only you are gonna benefit from it, and with your behavior, why should I give you any effort? I contributed to MK Secrets for the last 9 years, posting news, working on pages on the site such as the pages for secrets and Brutalities for MKX, making videos on my channel of all kinds for Mortal Kombat X, Mortal Kombat 11, Mortal Kombat 1 and also Injustice 2, trying to give everyone the proper info, and I know that people come from the outside to MK Secrets deserve to get the info. But this site, with only you, the bitches, being the ones that can benefit from my work, why should I?

I did true work for that Mortal Kombat series, because I love it. BUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP INSULTING ME AND DISRESPECTING ME, WHAT THE FUCK ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER DONE FOR THE LAST 9 YEARS?!?!?

I know that Mortal Kombat as a franchise is gonna keep going, MK1 is the best selling fighting game now with over 5 million copies, beating both SF6 and T8, and also being in the top 20 most played games on PS5, while SF6 and Tekken 8 are not in even in the top 100 most played games on any platform. So why should I contribute from a game I love, to a community that only loves themselves, but not the game. Yes, we are supposed to help each other, but we are supposed to do it IN THE NAME OF THE GAME, NOT THE EXPENSE OF THE GAME.

That's it, do whatever you want, I don't give a fuck about you at this point. I know, that no matter what, Mortal Kombat is the best and greatest fighting game series of all time, and Mortal Kombat 1 is, was and always will be PHENOMENAL!
This is a really weird manifesto to post in response to light criticism of your behavior. At least on my end. I won't speak for anyone else.


If you think that I'm known as someone that hates MK1 then...

...you clearly haven't paid attention to anything I've ever posted.

But hey, do you have any gameplay of yourself floating around?

Do you run sets?

Please tell me you run sets.
 

Trickywizard

Apprentice
Yeah I clicked the report button.
Someone go do a welfare check on this man pls.

Mike is a straight hater
Tom Brady loves mk but loves attention more
Most of us here love mk games, we criticize it cause we want it to improve.
But you you’re just delusional…. And I thought Vulgar was bad lol you’re like x100 worse.
 
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Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
Surely this thread will do away with that WILD notion!

For those that don't want to read a screed that really illustrates how the End of MK1 Support announcement has absolutely mind-broken Roy, I will sum up his post with an image

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd

you just projected yourself again. You are the mind-broken and bitching one.

Being a fan of something doesn’t mean you can’t be critical of it. In fact, the reason we are critical is precisely because we are fans and a lot of us have been lifelong fans. We want the best out of the MK games we play and NRS as a whole. Ignoring all the issues the game or company has doesn’t accomplish anything. You do not serve the community OR NRS by burying your head in the sand. That said, if you genuinely love the game and think that it’s perfect, you’re more than entitled to that opinion. The problem is when you start attacking others for not having that same opinion as well as completely ignoring all logic and reason. @CrimsonShadow loves MK1 but he at least is able to recognize when there are faults and that NRS and MK1 aren’t perfect. I mean, I really like MK1 as well, I just dislike certain aspects of it. My main issue is with NRS continuing to have the same issues like the lack of communication and transparency.

Anyway, not reading the rest of yet another one of your essays. And the only reason I responded is because you tagged me. It is beyond pointless trying to even have a conversation with you let alone an argument or debate. And a lot of how I feel about it I already said it in the other thread, so I’ll just put that quote here as well
Oh, you mean like how everyone attacked me when I posted my honest thoughts about MK1 in that thread?

Hypocrisy at it's best.

This is a really weird manifesto to post in response to light criticism of your behavior. At least on my end. I won't speak for anyone else.


If you think that I'm known as someone that hates MK1 then...

...you clearly haven't paid attention to anything I've ever posted.

But hey, do you have any gameplay of yourself floating around?

Do you run sets?

Please tell me you run sets.
This isn't light criticism, and this isn't just for that thread, but your insults for the last several weeks.

Yeah I clicked the report button.
Someone go do a welfare check on this man pls.

Mike is a straight hater
Tom Brady loves mk but loves attention more
Most of us here love mk games, we criticize it cause we want it to improve.
But you you’re just delusional…. And I thought Vulgar was bad lol you’re like x100 worse.
You are just as bad as all of them mate. Facts.
 

Lt. Boxy Angelman

I WILL EAT THIS GAME
This is a really weird manifesto to post in response to light criticism of your behavior. At least on my end. I won't speak for anyone else.


If you think that I'm known as someone that hates MK1 then...

...you clearly haven't paid attention to anything I've ever posted.

But hey, do you have any gameplay of yourself floating around?

Do you run sets?

Please tell me you run sets.
Kinda thinking the same thing.

You're insane, but I KNOW you run your sets.
This guy, maybe not so much.

@Roy Arkon , Please stop trying so hard to make us feel bad that this game and the accompanying experience this far is below standard. It is. No amount of tirading can change that.

And PLEASE stop trying to speak for me and make me seem like a blind critic when I know for a fact that I can back up every criticism and fault I have to speak about with actual time spent and effort made, here on this forum and in the actual community, because now you just sound like you're trying to convince yourself more than us.
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
The game is good, NOT great, but it also doesn't help if we only complain even after they improved it, which they did after launch.

But there's still a lot to be improved or could have been improved which we don't know if they will.

Of course we buy the game, we like the franchise and it's the only game we have to play right now, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't say anything bad ab Mortal Kombat 1 or NRS because you think this is the best that they could have done.

Edit: I do agree that this forum should be used more for tech and talking about what we discovered rather than insulting eachother.
But how can i be an even better fan? Ive all ready bought all their games plus dlc plus charity costumes , ive donated to streamers , what qualifies me to yave an opinion on media ive purchased? Do i need stonks in nrs?
You can complain, but not to that level of quantity and frequency, and you need to be more positive, and now attack those that share their love for the game. @CrimsonShadow himself tried to tell that to everyone for years. This is what happens when you do that: Other people leave, and NRS/WB stop communicating with you.
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
Kinda thinking the same thing.

You're insane, but I KNOW you run your sets.
This guy, maybe not so much.

@Roy Arkon , Please stop trying so hard to make us feel bad that this game and the accompanying experience this far is below standard. It is. No amount of tirading can change that.

And PLEASE stop trying to speak for me and make me seem like a blind critic when I know for a fact that I can back up every criticism and fault I have to speak about with actual time spent and effort made, here on this forum and in the actual community, because now you just sound like you're trying to convince yourself more than us.
Like I said, stop playing the game, stop giving your money and time to WB, and by extension, stop coming talking about it. And I'm not speaking for you, you don't seem to know what it means.

And yes, you are a blind critic, sadly, all of you are. Harsh truth.
 

Lt. Boxy Angelman

I WILL EAT THIS GAME
Like I said, stop playing the game, stop giving your money and time to WB, and by extension, stop coming talking about it. And I'm not speaking for you, you don't seem to know what it means.

And yes, you are a blind critic, sadly, all of you are. Harsh truth.
I love this. Please, keep going. Tell me more about how we're all wrong because we don't love your favorite game as much as you do, and how it's all our fault that NRS doesn't communicate worth a damn anymore instead of acknowledging that it's the responsibility of the publisher - who was going out of their way to tell us how much they're supposedly listening when they were telling us this would be the longest serviced NRS game ever, aaaaaaand now they're gone.

You are either blind or as willfully ignorant as you were in 2020, because you are the exact kind of AEW-Tier fanboy troll that makes it so hard to care about this kind of stuff anymore in the first place, because it feels like people like you all that's left. Everyone else is either too busy running the sets that you still haven't answered @Vulgar about, or they're playing the new Doom and spending time with their families, because it's never going to be 2013 again and life is short.
People like you do nothing but reinforce stereotypes and make the rest of us look like idiots. I also left the forums in 2020 for a long ass time, and I only came back because I have friends in Atlanta I wanna go party and train with, and a book to write that requires research, and part of that includes the fighting game community.

Beyond that, this world is all yours, kid.
You keep telling yourself you're right.
We'll keep waiting for you to figure out you're wrong.
 
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Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
I love this. Please, keep going. Tell me more about how we're all wrong because we don't love your favorite game as much as you do, and how it's all our fault that NRS doesn't communicate worth a damn anymore instead of acknowledging that it's the responsibility of the publisher - who was going out of their way to tell us how much they're supposedly listening when they were telling us this would be the longest serviced NRS game ever, aaaaaaand now they're gone.

You are either blind or as willfully ignorant as you were in 2020, because you are the exact kind of AEW-Tier fanboy troll that makes it so hard to care about this kind of stuff anymore in the first place, because it feels like people like you all that's left. Everyone else is either too busy running the sets that you still haven't answered @Vulgar about, or they're playing the new Doom and spending time with their families, because it's never going to be 2013 again and life is short.
People like you do nothing but reinforce stereotypes and make the rest of us look like idiots. I also left the forums in 2020 for a long ass time, and I only came back because I have friends in Atlanta I wanna go party and train with, and a book to write that requires research, and part of that includes the fighting game community.

Beyond that, this world is all yours, kid.
You keep telling yourself you're right.
We'll keep waiting for you to figure out you're wrong.
Translation: You think you can never be wrong and you are always innocent no matter what, just like the rest of the MK bashers.
 

Vulgar

Warrior
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd

you just projected yourself again. You are the mind-broken and bitching one.



Oh, you mean like how everyone attacked me when I posted my honest thoughts about MK1 in that thread?

Hypocrisy at it's best.



This isn't light criticism, and this isn't just for that thread, but your insults for the last several weeks.



You are just as bad as all of them mate. Facts.
But none of my insults were about MK1, they were about you and how you're allergic to brevity. So I don't really fit in your rogues gallery of MK haters.

You never did answer my question. Do you play sets? Do you have any footage of yourself playing?
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Yeah it’s weird because I haven’t been an MK1 hater either. I guess if you’re at all critical of anything relating to the game, you’re a hater. I guess that makes CrimCrumb a hater as well.

Also gotta love the crybully routine. Just stop it, and get some help
Translation: You think you can never be wrong and you are always innocent no matter what, just like the rest of the MK bashers.
LOL if this ain’t the pot calling the kettle black
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
But none of my insults were about MK1, they were about you and how you're allergic to brevity. So I don't really fit in your rogues gallery of MK haters.

You never did answer my question. Do you play sets? Do you have any footage of yourself playing?
You still insulted for no reason other than your own ego stroking. That alone is enough. And no, I don't play sets, I do play KL sometimes, and you can seem a couple of vids of me on my channel. Even if I was playing sets, I am not gonna play with you. If you are gonna take anything into caveman-like fights, you are only proving my point.