Spider-Man No Way Home is atrociously written and coasts on great acting and good character moments. Wakanda Forever was fucking terrible and spit on Chadwick Boseman's last wishes while standing atop his grave for clout. MoM was 2022 (and was legitimately one of the worst written movies I've ever seen). BTW, No Way Home and Spider-Verse are Sony, not Marvel when it comes to raking in the cash. You also failed to mention Black Widow and Thor: Love & Thunder which were not what you'd call successful nor liked. And then there's Eternals...
Marvel has been eating shit for a long time now on the majority of their projects especially on Disney+. It's why their stuff is not getting renewed. Hawkeye, Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, and She-Hulk all either did mediocre or outright face-planted.
Phase 5 (which was actually Phase 4 still but they split phases to try and save face) ate plate after plate of shit. Quantumania set money on fire. The Marvels did as well. Captain America: BNW is trending to potentially be the biggest bomb of all time with an INSANE budget due to reshoots. Then you've got Echo (LMAO), Agatha (bomb), What if Season 3 (cancelled afterwards)
Now, as far as DC...
How the fuck are we coping that DC has been anything but a fucking disaster shitshow of amazing proportions?
Suicide Squad. Bomb. Justice League. Bomb. Harley Quinn & The Birds of Prey. Bomb (...but I thought Harley was a wildly successful character...? HINT: Her comics have also been cancelled repeatedly because she struggles to carry a book). WW 1984. Bomb. Zack Snyder's Justice League. Holy fuck they backed a truck full of cash to an incinerator. The Suicide Squad. Very good movie! ...bombed. Shazam! Bomb of the Gods. Black Adam. More like Bomb Adam. The Flash. Might be the biggest box office loss of all time. Blue Beetle. I don't know a single person that has seen this or even remembers it coming out. BOMB. Aquaman 2. Floundered.
DC has been doing nothing but failing on almost every single thing they've produced for years and years with only a handful of successes. And, ironically, a few of those successes have been things like Joker that they had ZERO faith in...because Warner Bros is lead by idiots. Hey speaking of Joker! Bet it's sequel did great...
...oh wait it bombed.
Saying Marvel is still doing well is HIGHLY dubious and not in keeping with Marvel's own attempts to refocus which they themselves have stated outright.
Saying DC has been doing well is straight-up delusional detachment from reality that should result in a mental health evaluation. Warner Bros is one of the most openly dysfunctional companies in the world right now.
Your post only proves why companies should never listen to anyone on the interent. You parroting stuff like a mindless robot with no thinking whatsoever and that is embarrassing.
I actually took classes in writing, and I talked closely with professional writers who understand how writing works. And such I can confirm to you that none of the movies I mentioned were badly written at all. Also, funny that you left out Deadpool and Wolverine which I also mentioned in the paragraph you quoted, because that movie sits well with the interent "club opinion", not because of it's quality. You also failed to mention 2022 Batman, guess you got not enough parroting that stuck in your head for this one, huh?
I also did mention Joker 2, and I said then that while it's not as good as Joker 1, it wasn't a bad movie, it just tried to go in a direction that no one expected it to go, but once you watch and analyze it you can see what the writers tried to do. This is called having an open mind, a concept which I can see is way too hard for you to grasp.
And if you wanna talk about the commercial success of these movies, all the movies that I mentioned were all insanely successful, especially No-Way Home, Batman and Deadpool and Wolverine. Also a crap ton of the movies you listed didn't fail at the box office. Some of the movies you listed indeed failed, but the majority of them not.
Let's break it down, both the budget and the income at the box office
- Spiderman No Way Home (2021). Budget of $200 Million, income of $1.953 billion
- Wakanda Forever (2022). Budget of 250 million, income of 859.2 million
- The Batman (2022) a movie that you forgot to mention. Budget of 200 million, income of 772.3 million
- Deadpool and Wolverine (2024) ANOTHER movie that you forgot to mention. Budget of 200 million, income of 1.338 billion
- Multiverse of Madness (2022), budget of 414 million (gross) and 350.6 million (net), income of 955.8 million
- Guardians of the Galaxy 3 (2023) budget of 250 million, income of 845.6 million
- Across the Spider-Verse (2023) budget of 150 million, income of 690.8 million
And these are only the movies that I mentioned. A crap of the movies you listed were also super successful, so let's bring all the successful ones:
- Black Widow (Taskmaster was written bad, but everything else in the movie was good and it was still very successful commercially). Budget of 288.5 million, income of 379.8 million
- Thor: Love and Thunder. Budget of 250 million, income of 760.9 million
- Shazam 1. Budget of 100 million, income of 367.8 million
- Eternals. Budget of 236.2 million, income of 402.1 million
- Justice League (you also mentioned that movie twice, because there is only 1, directed by Zak Snyder. And no, the director's cut version isn't a 2nd one). Budget of 300 million, income of 661.3 million
- Birds of Prey. Budget of 100 million, income of 205.5 million
I can keep going if you want
Obviously you drop the term "bomb" so constantly like a headless chicken in a Call of Duty match. Obviously both Marvel and DC have delivered multiple successful movies objectively. Waiting until something fails like She-Hulk and then using this to label everything else as a failure is objectively false and unacceptable humanly and socially. This is not about you having an opinion, this is you not understanding how movies, writing and marketing works. Which is w
Also going back to fighting games, once again, MK1 is still the best selling fighting game right now and the most played fighting game on PS5. Tekken 8 still didn't sell 3 million copies even after 1 year despite all the overhype that you guys on the interent did in favor of Tekken 8 and against MK1, and SF6, while is a lot closer to MK1, is still very behind it and also it was reported that potentially it only recently started to gain profit for Capcom, despite having a much lower budget compared to MK1, and despite all the overhype that you guys on the internet did in favor of SF6 and against MK1
So, mr. bomb chicken, thank you for showing for companies why they should never listen to people on the interent like you, and why the FGC in general and MK interent community, can't be taken seriously, sadly.