MK1 Tier List Discussion Thread

[Felipe_Gewehr]

I wasn't saying Reiko needed anything (although I could have a discussion about some changes he could probably use). I was questioning the aforementioned claim that "every character" is getting new moves, changes, pickups, etc. If my character is getting any of this, it's news to me outside of the f2 I mentioned above.

I don't think every character needs to be dependent on mixups. Not OH/low or HTBs, anyway.

Oh my bad. I definitely agree not every character needs to be dependent on mixups.

 

[John_NX]

What new moves is Reiko getting? That f2 change was not a fucking buff at all. I could have done without it, to be honest. Getting 25-28% for a bar and full Kameo gauge is horseshit. It's also very, very Kameo specific and requires actual timing. Reiko doesn't suddenly get to go all unga bunga with f2 mixup launches or anything. >.>

Kitana doesn't need any type of mixup potential. I think she's in a really good spot right now.

OH no, definitely not what I also meant. I don't think kitana needs mixups (would be welcome).

I think she needs some new specials, or additions to her strings. That would add to her already existing strengths. There's no reason for her not to have a fan flutter for example. She could get some ex fan toss in the air for plus frames, or safety. Just something. She needs options, which is at least what other characters get.

 

[M2Dave]

Literally the only thing she lacks is mix up options...

All the top tier characters have great mix up options, which is why Kitana is not top 8.

I forget where I heard the comment, but Ninja Killa was essentially saying that if your character only relies on strike/throw mix ups, your character cannot be top tier.

As far as zoning is concerned, Kitana's zoning is average aside from d,b+3. Aerial fan toss is crap, and the EX fan toss was much better zoning tool in Mortal Kombat 11.

Zoning is weak in Mortal Kombat 1 anyway.

In recent times, the closest Kitana came to a top 8 character was pre-custom moves and pre-razors nerfs in Mortal Kombat 11.

NRS should add razors in this game. LOL.

I doubt that she is higher than mid tier.

 

[Hot_DNA]

All the top tier characters have great mix up options, which is why Kitana is not top 8.

I forget where I heard the comment, but Ninja Killa was essentially saying that if your character only relies on strike/throw mix ups, your character cannot be top tier.

As far as zoning is concerned, Kitana's zoning is average aside from d,b+3. Aerial fan toss is crap, and the EX fan toss was much better zoning tool in Mortal Kombat 11.

Zoning is weak in Mortal Kombat 1 anyway.

In recent times, the closest Kitana came to a top 8 character was pre-custom moves and pre-razors nerfs in Mortal Kombat 11.

NRS should add razors in this game. LOL.

I doubt that she is higher than mid tier.

I play Kitana/Mavado and you literally can't jump anywhere on the screen without taking 30% damage.. Yeah maybe at Ninjakilla's level she is mid tier but that's like the top 10% of mk players.. I like where she is, I don't want her to be broken.

 

[John_NX]

All the top tier characters have great mix up options, which is why Kitana is not top 8.

I forget where I heard the comment, but Ninja Killa was essentially saying that if your character only relies on strike/throw mix ups, your character cannot be top tier.

As far as zoning is concerned, Kitana's zoning is average aside from d,b+3. Aerial fan toss is crap, and the EX fan toss was much better zoning tool in Mortal Kombat 11.

Zoning is weak in Mortal Kombat 1 anyway.

In recent times, the closest Kitana came to a top 8 character was pre-custom moves and pre-razors nerfs in Mortal Kombat 11.

NRS should add razors in this game. LOL.

I doubt that she is higher than mid tier.

Exactly. Which is why I think, that she needs to get some new special moves.

Don't give her mix, fine. However, I'm tired of kitana being the mid tier character in the last two games, that relies on punishing people for their mistakes for her to win.

Thus, I think she needs some new moves.