I agree with this and hope I'm dead wrong. But usually, by this time, mk9 and mkx had significant balance changes IIRC, while MK11 kept the same lukewarm approach. I cant comment on Injustice 1 or 2, as I didnt play any of them. We did receive a major patch in mk11 that addressed the breakway with new breakway-breaking combos/krushing blows, which is what I am anticipating somewhere by the end of 2024/early 2025.
I find this entire health variance concept really strange. How are they making these decisions? Are they using this mechanic to achieve balance? So Jonny with Lao (950) vs Quan with Sub (950) is a 'balanced' match?Updated post-patch health values
That's sort of comingling character balance with matchups.
Completely agree, its a good point. I would really love it if NRS would engage with the community more, where we could actually get responses to these kinds of questions...like "what is your logic for giving Quan and Nitara 600". We don't all have to agree, but at least they engage with us that way.
I sort agree with you about communication, but really what do you think would be the out come? Plenty of people in the community just like to complain, or would just never agree with what any explanation given. Objectivity is not a common as you may like to believe. Ultimately I think the best idea is to let the devs make the decision, BUT listen to a select few trusted and experienced community members who have a proven track record.
Its could also just be an arbitrary decision. An example is Scorpion, who is universally agreed upon as having shit buttons. He doesnt have a health buff, despite that - not that +50 health would do anything for him.
Let's also not forget what happened to Iron Galaxy and their extremely open communication with Killer Instinct.
I've never been a fan of health changes in fighting games for balance either. The exception being a character like Shao having more health, but that's because of who he is.
My theory is that since Kameos play such a vital role in this game, they’re being more cautious with main Character balance changes. Once Khameleon drops, the Characters + the Kameos = 42 characters you have to balance. That plus there not being many Characters that are TOO overpowered right now and/or even any Characters that are TOO weak. Of course there’s Characters that need a little toning down, and likewise Characters that need a little beefing up. But nothing, imo, that is “urgent”.
Nitara has 600 Health btw, at least according to the new HP values chart. So she’ll only have 950 HP with Darrius, Sareena and Sub. And 1000 HP with Jax, Shujinko and Tremor. With the rest of the Kameos she’ll have either 900 or 850 HP.
All three Kombat Kast lackeys are insufferable to the senses. LBSH
I don't think so but I would love to hear a lead developer talk a bit about their philosophy, especially since it seems we're going to be getting content updates for the game for quite a while.
What type of dirt would he have to have to justify this haha,i mean sindel is in the game and she has a loopable vortext htb that also bypasses the htb safeguard that takes away 80%of your life for like what 1 or 2 bars of meter.and as a base she has great buttons and spacing,zoning etc a pretty stacked kit.Yet she has normal health and no bs handicaps like a scuffed d1,or a 2 meter base special ex move.
Yeah, there's no filter in place really. They basically give everyone the choice decline no matter what, but the fact you can't see your opponent before declining makes it fair. An actual filter would be better of course, but what we have right now at least makes Ranked playable compared to before. I'm actually having fun. We still need FT3 though.
You mean it affects you in ranked specifically or in kasual as well?
I don’t really play kasual. The suggestion from me was to hide it just for me though, so I don’t see it on my side.
Yeah, I get it. One thing I find a bit backwards in ranked is the fact there are no "pillows", where after reaching it you can no longer derank. In most modern games with a ranking ladder, this is very common. Having milestones or "pillows" along the way during a ladder, keeps the players more focused on gameplay rather than their win/loss ratio or fear of losing points and deranking.
Omg this!!! This is infuriating. Might dm Tyler and ask lol
No idea, I heaven't played MK11 outside story mode. But yeah, ladder in MK1 is done in an old fashioned way for some reason. It was common 5 years ago, not now.
I like the patch overall, they did nerf Johnny damage on Parry and his damage with Sonya and actually found a way to only nerf Johnny using Lao on strings, everyone else used it differently but while also keeping function of low hat since many characters rely on it to cover their flaws.
It's a Mid
Yes there are multiple Mids you can UpBlock. Sub Zero Divekick is Mid and UpBlockable. All early Jump ins that hit MID before you start fall down are UpBlockable and I know there's more but it's escaping me. Maybe a few Fatal Blow moves?
This is correct. And you started to loose experience pretty quickly. I think it was only after 2 days of inactivity.