As a main you likely know this but I'd suggest practicing her in air db4, and consider using scorpion as a Kameo so you can do some low damage combos off of OHs (B3 forward assist). Though she does lack conventional overheads I think it's intentional because of her strong neutral and plus frames. They're unlikely to change this IMO.
No, she has an unreactable safe overhead.
It’s not an online thing. Instant air db4 is unreactable. Her overhead options are fine, just need to practice converting off them
Panic, when can I see some of your gameplay? Haven't seen you play since Hi Tech Jacqui.
Maybe I’ll upload some matches later haha.
From the way you're talking about her, you're making her sound OP. Maybe they should nerf her a bit? Or, you know, remove her low. Why does she need that to begin with, right?
Are you talking about her air db4? How is that safe?? That's -14 on block. The EX is -6 but it's an air move that costs resource. Like, what are we even talking about here?
If all it costs is 1 bar to make safe, that's an easy price to pay. One bar to make an un-reactable overhead (with good range) safe and lead to 30%-40%? In a game where building bar is fairly easy?
Sure, that's fine as a combo potential.
Indeed, I wonder the same. But, in the end of the day, as a player I do feel limited during gameplay which is not fun.
What extra tools would you like?
I've already talked about it in length in my previous posts.
I mean, you are asking for buffs. Changing the hit-level of a move from mid to overhead is an inherent buff. Would mean with frost Kameo or Kung Lao there’s a (fuzzy-guardable) mixup.
I'm not. You are just seeing it from a black/white perspective for some reason. She could have more tools without being buffed. It's not binary.
I don't understand why you'd want to nerf such a bare bones character like Li Mei tbh. That's just wild to me. I hope they add more tools to her so she's more fun to play.
I mean it literally is a binary. Giving more tools = a buff. Unless they’re nerfing the move in some other way, eg. making it unsafe/slower.
Yes, that's what I'm saying but that's the developers job. As a player, I'm providing feedback as to how it feels to play. If they need to tone down her raw power in order to give her more tools so be it, idc.
She is a bit bare bones imo. There are characters in the game that have more tools, not in terms of raw power but gameplay choice.
Not asking this to be antagonistic, I’m just genuinely curious which tools you think she doesn’t have, that other characters have as part of their base kit
Given the sheer amount of amazing tools Pan1cMode has laid out, it sounds like you need to move to another character rather than having her moves altered to suit your gameplay.
I think you might've compiled the list above with specific Kameos in mind, which is something I find disingenuous if true. Her dmg is decent, not good. Safe 50/50s?? She has no mixups. That's one of her main weaknesses which I'm guessing is by design. Her projectile is excellent. She has 1 armoured move which is decent.
No one said we should be altering the character's gameplay at any point, you're probably misunderstanding the conversation here.
Those are her base kit.
I still can't see the mixup. Do you mean her f43/f44? Because that's not a mixup. The opponent can crouch block/stand block both strings. Let's also forget about Kameos for now so we can understand each other.
Idk if instant air db4 is unreactable but it's not safe, it's -14 on block. The EX is -6 but it costs resource which is a major issue as a tool to check your opponent. I don't want to spend resource while on top of that using a difficult to execute move just to check my opponent for an overhead. In this case, f44 is much more preferable. Or even f3 tbh.
Yes, her pressure is strong. Although, I feel is a stretch calling stagger + throw a mixup. By this logic, aren't all throws a mixup of some sort?
Maybe her up close game could be toned down a bit, and in return she could get more mid stage tools. I mean, idk. In my experience, up close she can be quite oppressive but characters like JC obviously destroy her, as they should. Also not many people know how to play against her so I'm not sure yet about that.
It’s a 14 frame overhead. It’s definitely unreactable.
Maybe I'm failing to get my point across. I don't want the character changed.