they dont. boon already said in a interview that mk is already easy enough from its inputs and he is right.
A typical case of perception and reality being different things again.
Gunna have to agree to disagree here. The patching in MKX was buck wild with the entire meta feeling like it was turned on its head with every patch. Every character getting normals, strings, and specials updated alongside new stuff being added was insane and made it extremely difficult to keep up with learning one's character and matchups. Outside of universal mechanic changes (like the poke patch in MK11), I'd greatly prefer they keep it simple for changes. I feel they could do more than what was done for MK11, but I'd prefer they not pendulum swing back to the MKX days of pages-long patch notes.
I see your point and have no great problem with it, it's just that in MK11 it felt like the characters didn't change too much during the game's lifespan. Bottom tiers remained in the bottom, most top tiers remained top, and only some characters got up or down a tier or two - mostly because of the variations being made official in ranked modes. Part of the fun for me in MK9 and MKX was precisely the dramatic performance changes of the characters: one day your char is shit and then BAM he got crazy stuff. Kept things interesting and fresh - again, in my opinion, and I understand it might have been quite frustrating for some.
I do agree that they utilized an overly soft approach to MK11, especially on the lower tier characters and dogshit / flagrantly outclassed variation moves. I'll keep it at that or else I'll get on a soap box about variation moves. However, I think having pages of changes for characters' almost everything (most normals, a ton of strings, variation specials, baseline specials, armor, new moves / mechanically changed moves) all at the same time alongside most all the rest of the roster is ridiculously excessive.
buffing more than nerfing can be a good case, otherwise, we'll just see a tier shift, which isn't always a good thing, a character that is already good, can be either brought down to the level where the ones bellow him can finally reach him, or the ones bellow him have to be buffed to reach him.
Yeah agree with that. But after all these years I think I finally understand what people are saying - that characters aren't designed to take full advantage of all the moves.
Absolutely! It’s going to be no small job balancing this game.. My hat’s off to the people who have to do it, because it’s going to change the whole cast every time a new Kameo is added
Still waiting for more people to make this obvious connection...
And then call the community entitled when people ask simple questions about DLC and support.
I got shouted down after saying this from the start. We now have 432 variations... sorry, I mean Character/Kameo combinations.
Ayyee, this is what I’ve been wanting since Injustice. And every single time I advocate for it, I get the same responses. “Idk, not nerfing the broken top tier characters sounds like a horrible idea!”. No one said anything about “never nerfing”. We said buff more than you nerf, pretty simple concept. I’ve talked about this so many times, so I’ll just keep it short. The goal of balance patches is obviously to make the game more competitively balanced so that more characters can be used and compete. The problem with NRS is they tend to be a bit too heavy handed with the nerf stick. Which just ends up with the characters they nerfed not really being used very much anymore. That said, they did a MUCH better job of this with MK11. Anyway, when you do that, you just accomplish what you said, it’s just a tier shift. When you can instead make the low & mid tier want to be used just as often as the top tier. Again, this doesn’t mean leaving in completely broken things or leaving characters completely broken. You just wouldn’t nerf the top tier into the ground.
I can 100% understand this position from a competitive player standpoint, but I think a lot of the nerfing is to help casuals more. This makes sense as this is the bulk of their audience. You cannot have spammable moves which casuals have a difficult time dealing with or they will not play, which would be a disaster for the franchise. Most of the nerfs are slowing down moves or adjusting their properties a little to make them easier to deal with, if you just buff other characters, the same problem with the original still exists (and may create more issues!).
This. This is what I want.
not sure about this. looking at some late mk11 characters like sheeva or nightwolf, these are (mostly) wonderfully crafted. everything good they do has a tradeoff. the frame data is extremely thoughtful and they are fair and honest characters who need more strategy than button->mixup. the problem is just that they exist in the same game as for example sub-zero, who for some reason didnt get the same treatment (a great example is that his overhead anti-airs jumpovers and drops you right into the follow-up iceball for full combo, while nightwolfs and sheevas (b2) overhead can be jumped through when you read them). i'd rather have NRS continue designing characters in the thoughtful, honest way than make everyone super-good, because the latter results in simplified, dull gameplay that can reward spam over strategy.
Just look at Blazblue Crosstag Battle for reference.
Imagine thinking allowing characters to have the tools in order to compete is somehow “dull”. The opposite is true my friend. When you nerf everything good characters have, the characters become so boring that no one wants to play the game anymore.
uh this is one time too much "high horse" vibes from you, i'm out.
This doesn't make sense. Variations were mainly based around splitting a single character's legacy/new moveset into discrete groupings, with the option to only use a few at a time. Sonya cannot use Jacqui's leap.
Doesn't it make you wish you could put mods on Ignore?
