From what I have read here, the posts were not talking about people being on wifi or the like apart from NeroOps. The point was that the the chosen netcode for this game is not good enough. I think most people know this about trying to do the best for your own connection hence why I said in my last post:
Never mind that most players will get the majority of their PvP via netplay, but I care about netplay quality because I’m ”absolutely no fun in person.”
I was playing around with vf last night and I couldnt get these combos to work. The notation kinda threw me off a bit and I tried to find an explanation but some of the notations arent well explained. Any idea what the black direction arrows mean? like one combo said
PP and the secondwas black. Also what is open/closed stance? Game is pretty fun so far but all these rules like "combo works on these characters in closed stance only, these characters in all situation ,these characters in both stances but only on counter hit, these characters only in closed stance and recovery hit" seems overly tedious.
Ya I am not saying it is bad I just was confused at first when I went to training. I was like is this data for the player 2 or what is going on lol.
Yeah combos change on the weight of your opponent, in the right column you can see what works against who.I was playing around with vf last night and I couldnt get these combos to work. The notation kinda threw me off a bit and I tried to find an explanation but some of the notations arent well explained. Any idea what the black direction arrows mean? like one combo said
Also according to the training mode information like 90% of my character's strings are - on hit. Even a string that is high high high is like -4 this is weird to my tekken brain lol.
Ya coming from tekken the low attacks being minus on hit is nothing new. But I was messing around with Lau and every string/poke I tried was - except 5P. Makes me wonder what you are supposed to do if you land a string on someone then they are + and in your face. Guess I have a lot to learn if gonna give this game a shot. Obviously lot different than tekken.
I've been watching some of JuiceBox's stream lately. He actually started going hard on VF5 about 8 months ago and has been answering some of the same questions a lot over the last few days about the kind of situations the game puts you in. It might be worth pulling up his VOD's and seeing some of what has been talked about.
I phreaking LOVE fighters Megamix. That's actually the one fighting game I remember spending time on growing up, before never touching fighting games every again until 2014. I highly doubt they'd ever do a re-make of it, though. VF is niche enough, and there might not even be a VF6, which I would assume would be the next natural game.
What if I told you most players don't give a shit about PvP or netplay? Or do you really think people like YOU are who fighting games are made for?
Honestly, the feeling i've gotten from this game more than anythign is that I wish this had some vipers in it. Fighting games are finally ready for all the wall and weapon shenanigans that game tried.
Okay.....I understand wanting good netcode to be standard but this statement is completely false. It doesn't matter to some people how good the netcode is on a fighter if the game is shit. If mk11 had zero lag in all matches and a wifi filter, people who hate the game aren't gonna say it's the best fighter ever.
Completely false? Maybe in your eyes it's just the half-truth.
This I 100 percent agree with. But this is different than saying "Netcode is the heart of any competitive fighting game, period".
Like I said in my post before, no one is saying you can't give constructive criticism. You should always give feedback. I was only referring to that one statement in your post.
I'm going to presume I'm a tad older than you cuz I was a teen when Fighters Megamix was out. lol. but actually VF was a really big deal from what I recall when it was out. It just got a bit taken over by Tekken and Soul Edge/Soul Calibur. I think if SEGA utilized it's properties more like they do with Sonic they could be pretty big. A lot of what I remember too was there games were really kinda short. Fighters Megamix was one of the games where they really started to take a look at games with a large roster and going crazy. Capcom also sorta did the same thing with MvC2, but I digress. I think this is one reason why I was a bit bummed with MK11's starting roster. The roster we have now or at least most of it should have been ready to go from the beginning.
What would you like to talk about? I'm a 4th Kyu Jeffrey player. Probably still with him for a while then move back to hawk when I understand grabs again.
Well how's everyone's learning experience going?
Also helps that some combos simply don't work on him, so unless the opponent knows the matchup and has memorized their character specific combos you can avoid some damage.
Definitely true, but he has to take more damage and hold more pressure in other ways. The big ones are that certain strings are natural combos on him, he takes longer to get up so he's easy to OTG, and apparently cant evade/fuzzy until a frame later than everyone else. The latter I cant find in any of the guides, but Tricky said it and I tested it and it's true. I'd like to think everyone at low level just learns universal combos
