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Jynks

some heroes are born, some made, some wondrous
who cares what a tiny fraction of cry baby cancel culture loosers say. It is a gory and fun game and means nothing. Let them be pissed off. It would piss off more people by censoring it over something so ridiculous. The only thing is that normal people do not try and enforce their opinions and ideologies on everyone else so they make less noise. Everyone needs to lighten up and get a sense of humour. Especially Americans.
 

Wrenchfarm

Lexcorp Proprietary Technologies
You can always hand wave away Robocop doing something fucked up by saying it's a bug in his program.

I would agree that this would have a VERY different tone if Stryker was the character doing these brutalities (especially if he kept his attitude era "police brutality!" quips). I would be uncomfortable with that for sure.

However, I tend to think of Robocop as a tragic monster machine first and a cop a distant second. To me he never really enforced the law like a cop. He's a corporate tank dropped into urban zones designed to pacify civilian unrest. He's the friendly brand update to the machine gun blasting ED-209, a move to make deploying a war machine in US streets more palatable. He was never designed to really give a shit about law and order, which is why one of his top prime directives is to never take action against an OCP employee, regardless of any crimes they've committed. And the man trapped inside, Murphy, is in hell. There is a reason all the other test units immediately killed themselves as soon as they were activated.


Robocop blasting the shit out of a surrendering criminal would be considered a feature, not a bug by his creators. I feel like a lot of people miss the point that while we're supposed to sympathize with Murphy and it's cool when he does rad things like shooting a rapist in the dick, the OCP Robocop plan is super corrupt from the get go.
 

xXRagingFlameXx

I'm a bad bitch, you can't kill me
who cares what a tiny fraction of cry baby cancel culture loosers say. It is a gory and fun game and means nothing. Let them be pissed off. It would piss off more people by censoring it over something so ridiculous. The only thing is that normal people do not try and enforce their opinions and ideologies on everyone else so they make less noise. Everyone needs to lighten up and get a sense of humour. Especially Americans.
There's currently a big movement happening right now because of a black man who was shot down in the streets by a retired cop and his son who was also an officer.

Having Robocop, a white dude who is a cop, yell "Halt." To, say, Jax, who complies, and yells "No!" Only to get shot in the dick and killed anyway is NOT a good look lmao. Idc how you feel about cry baby cancel culture LoOsErs.
 

NappyNuisance

Irritatingly Noir
I like the irony of Robocops brutality. Anyone tying it to the real world issues police officers have created themselves is doing too much. We know how Ed tends to use irony, I doubt it had anything to do with politics in policing.
 

SonBearku

#NerfRaiden
Its a video game. Quit the race baiting bullshit. Who cares if they follow the orders? ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME! My god, the amount of people who go out of there way to be offended is ridiculous. This shit has absolutely zero relevence in the real world but we have to wonder "wHaT iF hE wAs bLaCk?" Fucking Christ. Who gives a shit if hes black? What if it was a tarkatan? Are a shokan? They're minorities too! God forbid it was an edenian!

I'm just saying if people get offended by this, they probably eat tide pods for breakfast.
 

DixieFlatline78

Everyone Has A Path
You can always hand wave away Robocop doing something fucked up by saying it's a bug in his program.

I would agree that this would have a VERY different tone if Stryker was the character doing these brutalities (especially if he kept his attitude era "police brutality!" quips). I would be uncomfortable with that for sure.

However, I tend to think of Robocop as a tragic monster machine first and a cop a distant second. To me he never really enforced the law like a cop. He's a corporate tank dropped into urban zones designed to pacify civilian unrest. He's the friendly brand update to the machine gun blasting ED-209, a move to make deploying a war machine in US streets more palatable. He was never designed to really give a shit about law and order, which is why one of his top prime directives is to never take action against an OCP employee, regardless of any crimes they've committed. And the man trapped inside, Murphy, is in hell. There is a reason all the other test units immediately killed themselves as soon as they were activated.


Robocop blasting the shit out of a surrendering criminal would be considered a feature, not a bug by his creators. I feel like a lot of people miss the point that while we're supposed to sympathize with Murphy and it's cool when he does rad things like shooting a rapist in the dick, the OCP Robocop plan is super corrupt from the get go.
I mean the part where he says "I'm not arresting you anymore Clarence" is a good example of this sort of thing. But to be fair, when he's choking Clarence, he hears him say "You're a cop" and it reminds him of Directive 3. Whether or not Murphy or his programming was reminded of it is up in the air.

Theres a lot of great dialog that demonstrates OCP's unethical business practices, but the core of the movie is Murphy's soul battling with his programming. Also let's not forget that the inciting incident of the movie is an OCP product gunning down a compliant citizen. And Directive 4 was contributed by Dick Jones to protect himself specifically as he snuffed out his competition

You make a great point though. And this isnt super out of line in a game where the plucky teenage girl makes a cute little heart in a gaping hole she just made in your abdomen. I just think in this case, with the themes of the movie, with how prolonged the first one is, it doesnt sit well with me
 
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Deleted member 5032

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Its a video game. Quit the race baiting bullshit. Who cares if they follow the orders? ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME! My god, the amount of people who go out of there way to be offended is ridiculous. This shit has absolutely zero relevence in the real world but we have to wonder "wHaT iF hE wAs bLaCk?" Fucking Christ. Who gives a shit if hes black? What if it was a tarkatan? Are a shokan? They're minorities too! God forbid it was an edenian!

I'm just saying if people get offended by this, they probably eat tide pods for breakfast.
I don't think anyone is offended by it, and you seem to be the only person in this thread actively getting angry about anything. All a few of us are saying is that it's out of character and in pretty bad taste.

As to the argument about JC fatalitying Cassie, I think the difference is that's an issue with MK, while these brutalities are an issue with RoboCop. What I mean is, MK doesn't work without the characters fighting and killing each other. It's to be expected, and non-story matches aren't cannon, so JC performing a fatality on Cassie is the same as performing it on anyone; it's the same behavior regardless of the character it's being performed on. Either way, he's still behaving like JC while he does it.

But with RoboCop, it's uncharacteristic of him to torture or take pleasure in the pain of another person. He's meant to be a hero. As the hero in an ultraviolent action movie, he does rack up a heavy kill count, but those are all quick kills against armed and dangerous criminals who are attacking him. He takes them out quickly and doesn't go out of his way to cause additional pain. The only exception I can think of is when he throws Boddicker through several windows, but that seems to be because Boddicker is on the verge of giving up Dick Jones.

It's not a huge deal or anything, just pointing out why it was even brought up in the first place. And they would both be easy issues to fix; in the first, just don't have him go out of his way to shoot off the hand. Unload into the opponent, walk up, and shoot them in the head. Fixed. In the 2nd, don't have the opponent comply with his order. Instead of putting up their hands in a sign of surrender, have them lunge or take some other aggressive action that warrants the shot. Again, not a huge deal either way, but very easy to fix.
 
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xXRagingFlameXx

I'm a bad bitch, you can't kill me
Its a video game. Quit the race baiting bullshit. Who cares if they follow the orders? ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME! My god, the amount of people who go out of there way to be offended is ridiculous. This shit has absolutely zero relevence in the real world but we have to wonder "wHaT iF hE wAs bLaCk?" Fucking Christ. Who gives a shit if hes black? What if it was a tarkatan? Are a shokan? They're minorities too! God forbid it was an edenian!
If you can't see the issue with a black dude getting shot down by a white cop with his hands up surrendering then you need to silence yourself and honestly should delete your post because the clownery is at an all-time high.

Imagine someone posts a clip of Robocop doing that brutality on a character like Jax. No context of the fight prior, nothing like that.

"Halt." Jax puts his hands up, Robocop aims the gun at him. Jax yells "No!" Then gets shot repeatedly and killed.

I'mma assume you're a boomer who doesn't use social media much, but let me tell you. Shit like that would NOT be a good look for NRS as a company and they will most certainly face backlash. You're thinking of it from a Mortal Kombat players perspective. I understand that. As a Mortal Kombat player (Who's half black.) I don't care either. I like the brutality. I think it's ACTUALLY brutal and I love the animation and Robocop's movement. But, you need look at it from the perspective of people who don't play MK. The news outlets etc that would see that particular clip and rain hellfire on NRS. They won't see "Fun fighting game that doesn't care about politics." They'll see, "White cop shoots surrendering black man.

It's. Not. A. Good. Look. PERIOD

The US is already on high alert because of the Ahmaud Arbery situation. If that particular clip I mentioned above made it the wrong people....girl NRS would have a shitstorm. This isn't the simps crying because they don't have pixel boobies anymore. This isn't Mileena stans begging for their fav all day. This is entirely different and would be 10x worse than I think you understand.

I'm just saying if people get offended by this, they probably eat tide pods for breakfast.
And Tide pods are fucking desert food you fool.
 

SonBearku

#NerfRaiden
If you can't see the issue with a black dude getting shot down by a white cop with his hands up surrendering then you need to silence yourself and honestly should delete your post because the clownery is at an all-time high.

Imagine someone posts a clip of Robocop doing that brutality on a character like Jax. No context of the fight prior, nothing like that.

"Halt." Jax puts his hands up, Robocop aims the gun at him. Jax yells "No!" Then gets shot repeatedly and killed.

I'mma assume you're a boomer who doesn't use social media much, but let me tell you. Shit like that would NOT be a good look for NRS as a company and they will most certainly face backlash. You're thinking of it from a Mortal Kombat players perspective. I understand that. As a Mortal Kombat player (Who's half black.) I don't care either. I like the brutality. I think it's ACTUALLY brutal and I love the animation and Robocop's movement. But, you need look at it from the perspective of people who don't play MK. The news outlets etc that would see that particular clip and rain hellfire on NRS. They won't see "Fun fighting game that doesn't care about politics." They'll see, "White cop shoots surrendering black man.

It's. Not. A. Good. Look. PERIOD

The US is already on high alert because of the Ahmaud Arbery situation. If that particular clip I mentioned above made it the wrong people....girl NRS would have a shitstorm. This isn't the simps crying because they don't have pixel boobies anymore. This isn't Mileena stans begging for their fav all day. This is entirely different and would be 10x worse than I think you understand.



And Tide pods are fucking desert food you fool.
Dude it's a video game. It has nothing to do with reality. Don't get me wrong, there have been PLENTY of unjustified shootings. Of all races. In reality. This is fantasy. Anyone who sees it as purely a white cop shooting a black man and not as Robocop shooting someone he has deemed a threat is looking to far into it.

And no, im not a boomer. Im a millennial who actually thinks for themselves and doesn't get offended by everything known to man just because im told to be.

The tide pods was a joke. OBVIOUSLY. But of course, it's 2020 and you feel the need to "make a point" of that too.

Im not gonna take this any further because obviously at the end of the day, i suppose it's just differing opinions. And as Robocop said, maybe it is a bit out of taste. That being said, at the end of the day it's all fantasy. Trying to find things to be offended by is the main thing that irritated me in this thread. The same non MK players that get offended by this brutality are the same type of people who say that video games cause violence. They're fishing for anything to be be offended by. And Frankly, both are dead wrong.

The hypersensitivity of this generation blows my mind.
 

DixieFlatline78

Everyone Has A Path
Im a millennial who actually thinks for themselves and doesn't get offended by everything known to man just because im told to be.
Uh, ackshually I think for myself, unlike you, as evidenced by you disagreeing with me

You can see why something like this would hit close to home to people. Yeah, it's just a video game and NRS shouldn't be forced to change it if they want to stand by it. But having a REALLY COOL AND AWESOME depiction of a cop shooting a surrendering suspect is treading dangerous water in today's climate.

Personally, I feel sort of weird watching Robocop do these things.
 

Zviko

Warrior
Some of you are overreacting though and also cherry picking these "moral issues". Like suddenly a cop (potentially) shooting at a surrendering black guy in a video game is so very wrong but no one has ever mentioned slavery which has also been present since forever. Isn't one of the NPCs carrying Kitana's throne black too? Literally the same thing.
 

Error404

Kombatant
There's currently a big movement happening right now because of a black man who was shot down in the streets by a retired cop and his son who was also an officer.

Having Robocop, a white dude who is a cop, yell "Halt." To, say, Jax, who complies, and yells "No!" Only to get shot in the dick and killed anyway is NOT a good look lmao. Idc how you feel about cry baby cancel culture LoOsErs.
If you're talking about the "jogger" that has already been debunked as yet another fake hate crime.
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
Some of you are overreacting though and also cherry picking these "moral issues". Like suddenly a cop (potentially) shooting at a surrendering black guy in a video game is so very wrong but no one has ever mentioned slavery which has also been present since forever. Isn't one of the NPCs carrying Kitana's throne black too? Literally the same thing.
Lol this reach was longer than a cvs receipt.
 

Courante

Give all to another and save yourself
I always think it's funny when non-Americans tell Americans to grow a sense of humor about race. As if this country wasn't founded in racialized violence and only got its shit together ~50 years ago.

Having said that, this controversy is a bit overblown. I think the brutal are out of character, drawn out, and kinda tasteless. But I don't think we need to censor them or worry about a viral backlash. Brutals should feel like an inevitable abrupt ending. Robocops are contrived and overstay their welcome.
 

Vslayer

Juiced Moose On The Loose
Lead Moderator
Listen I'm Canadian, and I'm a white woman (burn after 2 seconds under the sun white) and I see the issue with a COP, specifically, not any other character, doing that to any character of color. It may not seem like a big deal to people who haven't been discriminated against their entire lives for the color of their skin, repeatedly typecasted in entertainment, and stopped by cops without any probable cause. Just have some compassion. People play video games to escape, and if it reminds them of the harsh reality and horrors they have suffered for years then it's not escapism.

This isn't about politics, it's about understanding issues that don't apply to us and chose to support our fellow human beings.
 

Kiss the Missile

Red Messiah
Listen I'm Canadian, and I'm a white woman (burn after 2 seconds under the sun white) and I see the issue with a COP, specifically, not any other character, doing that to any character of color. It may not seem like a big deal to people who haven't been discriminated against their entire lives for the color of their skin, repeatedly typecasted in entertainment, and stopped by cops without any probable cause. Just have some compassion. People play video games to escape, and if it reminds them of the harsh reality and horrors they have suffered for years then it's not escapism.

This isn't about politics, it's about understanding issues that don't apply to us and chose to support our fellow human beings.
And I'm a big black dude in America. I've been stopped by cops for literally walking down the street at night, I get side-eye when I go into stores and I know how fucked up discrimination can be in this country. I also realize that Robo-Cops brutality is probably the biggest non-issue of the year. Out of 30+ characters only 2 of them are African American (3 if you wanna count Spawn) so acting like RoboCop's Brutality is some over the top insensitive shit is fucking stupid when he also shoots monsters, gods, ninjas, white people and everyone else under the sun.

I don't need anyone to be offended for me lmao
 
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Deleted member 5032

Guest
Wow, this is getting blown out of proportion. The initial comment was just that it was out of character for RoboCop to do the things in these brutalities, and that it was rather tasteless ("tonedeaf" might be a better word for it). Then race and politics got dragged into the debate somehow. You can't talk about anything anymore without people losing their minds and escalating shit. If someone thinks it's offensive to see RoboCop shoot a surrendering character in the dick, great, let them. If you think that's stupid and a video game shouldn't be taken seriously, great, keep thinking that. No need to get worked up about it.

One person brings up Jax and suddenly that's the assumed opinion of anyone who thinks the brutalities are in bad taste. Guess what, white people get killed by trigger-happy cops too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver). For me, race has zero to do with why I find the brutalities to be in bad taste (not "offensive", just tonedeaf). By shooting his opponent after they surrender, RoboCop is no longer the hero he is supposed to be. He's just another trigger-happy cop murdering someone in cold blood. I'm still going to play him and it's not going to ruin my enjoyment of the game, I'm just trying to explain why some people have expressed having issues with the brutaility.
 
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