Where'd you rank MK11 among the MK Games?

[Tertian]

The revisionist history about MK9 needs to end. The game was a complete mess, and we loved it because it revived something beautiful and was fun.

You've hit the nail on the head. Some people have a bad case of rose colored glasses for mk9.

 

[OzzFoxx]

To me, character labbing is my most enjoyable part of the game. MKX and MK9 offered comparable opportunity for this, but MK9’s janky feel prolly puts MKX on top, then MK9 then MK11.

 

[Arqwart]

So, speaking about the new games for the new trilogy (MK9, MKX and MK11), my opinion :

1. MK11
2. MK9
3. MKX

^This. MK11 #1 for the overall quality, MK9 #2 for the nostalgia and wtf wacky fun factor, MKX #3 for the shitty grittiness and "crutches in videogame form" gameplay style.

As for overall, see below.

Fantastic:
1-MK11
2-UMK3
3-MK9
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Ok I Guess:
4-MK2
5-Deception
6-Deadly Alliance
7-MKX
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Ironically Like:
8-MK4
9-Armageddon
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Indifferent:
10-Vs. DC
11-MK1

 

[Zhidoreptiloid]

Best MK ever.

 

[Juggs]

Top 5

1. UMK3
2. MKT
3. MK11
4. MK9
5. MK2

 

[Eh SnOwY]

1. MK9
2. MK11
3. MKX

 

[DanCock]

waiting for sindel to place it properly, at the moment 5th could reach #2. nothing will ever compare to MK2.

 

[YoungTeezy 305]

#1: MKX
#2: MK9
#3: MK11

 

[Nickolaidas]

Best MK ever.

 

[sub_on_dubs]

1. Mk9
2. Mk11
3. Mkx

 

[MagicMan357]

This is the best one period

 

[Stanlos]

If we're talking about just the new trilogy, then it's the second best overall after MK9.

It's probably still one of the best of the whole series given that the 3D era was a forgettable shitshow.

I think it is Fourth behind the original classics 1,2, and umk3

 

[MKF30]

What? This has to be a joke.

MK9 is literally the most gimmicky game in the modern 2d series. I mean, there were 100% resets for crying out loud. Near-block-infinites on big hitbox characters, Kabal just spamming gas blasts across the entire stage so you could walk in and get NDC'ed or flash-parried, player 1 had advantage, there was a toasty boost for full meter, safe armored launchers, stuff like Johnny Cage's f3 having variable advantage, and like 1000 other things.. Some people didn't even have viable pokes for crying out loud.

The revisionist history about MK9 needs to end. The game was a complete mess, but we loved it because it revived something beautiful and was fun.

Not a joke at all, not at all, sounds like you didn't know how to play MK 9 honestly. Compared to MK 11 which is gimmicky, MK 9 is pretty straight forward with it's problems. Wake ups actually worked, I was able to beat and compete with anyone in that game using MID tiers. That isn't the case in this game because of the lame bs that is inconsistent. At least with Raiden but then again he is lower....So trust me, the game wasn't nearly as gimmicky as MK11 is. Yeah and most of them were patched, at least the hitboxes were more consistent than this game which are trash, people get hit from behind sweep distance in this game lol. Are you kidding? Then there's the dumb shit in the corner in this game, MK 9 you had to actually respect wake ups as they had armor and worked. This game once you get locked in the corner it's virtually over unless you guess right and get lucky enough to escape the corner. Kabal was BS yes, in MK 9 but his run dash cancel could be poked out of, I did it all the time. I know about the dash cancels, the flash parries and KL's bs. I dealt with it with Sektor and Ermac, if you don't believe me I have vids. Cage was annoying but only up close, similar to this game actually though he actually has a partial stagger loop in this game that nobody talks about. Was done to me once by this guy in KL. My defensive bar was out using other wake ups so I was pretty much screwed. Scorps teleport was busted beyond stupid in MK 11 til recently, MK 9 it wasn't an issue at all. Cyrax's bomb combos were only done consistently by top level Cyrax players, I never once got caught in anything above 60%. He had higher ones and a 100% one even but unless you really don't know what you're doing you're not going to get caught in that. Another character I dealt with using Sektor who again I stress was mid. Still, ask anyone who's played me in that game I was able to compete and win against Kabal's using Sektor and Ermac, they were both mids at best. Now you take that same scenario in MK 11 hahahaha that ain't happening. Good luck beating Liu Kang or Jacqui or Scorpion someone like that using a mid or lower character. Won't happen.

MK 9 wasn't a complete mess, it wasn't perfect but still much better than MK 11's inconsistent BS easily. Oh let me stagger you and throw you even though I'm ducking and cornertrap you to death, boring. At least MK 9 I can escape that shit. MK 9 had a bigger impact on FGC because it brought MK back, had arguably the best story not just in MK but in a FG period, best roster, fun DLC and 4 player tag was great. I will bet you anything more people would play 4 player tag again online and offline vs. grinding hours and hours and hours on ToT or stupid broken KL which is beyond broken in case you're unaware. I never got near blocked infinite on big hit box characters. The Toasty boost most players didn't even know about and rarely if ever happened lol. Yeah well pokes should be decent enough to back you off not be busted up close like Geras's prepatch or like LK's and Scorps dumb staggers in MK 11. Sounds like you haven't played MK 11 much honestly. In case you haven't noticed most here happen to agree with my order on MK 9 at least, being at the top of people's lists. Can't imagine why...lol. It literally needed one more patch to be practically perfect or great. MK 11 though, HAHAHAHA needs like 100 more patches to fix all the bs in that game. Have you read the glitch/feedback thread on MK 11? Between the krypt, gameplay bugs, KL issues, ToT needed day one patch because it was uber broken lol I can go on and on. Plus, considering MK 9 was NRS's first game I'd say that it's even more impressive how good it was. MK 11 feels rushed.

this .... in terms of nostalgic value, MK9 was the best, but it was not free of some major technical problems, and all that Crimson spoke here, is nothing but very truth regarding that game

MK 9 did have issues but it's issues were consistent unlike MK 11's, MK 11's you never know what's going to happen with hitboxes for example, if you're lucky enough to duck throws or get thrown, MK 11 literally turns into a pokefest at times and if you get locked in the corner you better pray you guess right to escape it. MK 9 you at least had to respect them, which I liked. Wake ups started going down hill in MK X and they're even worse in MK 11. But yeah I mean no game is perfect and every game has some issues.

 

[Zombielicious2]

What? This has to be a joke.

MK9 is literally the most gimmicky game in the modern 2d series. I mean, there were 100% resets for crying out loud. Near-block-infinites on big hitbox characters, Kabal just spamming gas blasts across the entire stage so you could walk in and get NDC'ed or flash-parried, player 1 had advantage, there was a toasty boost for full meter, safe armored launchers, stuff like Johnny Cage's f3 having variable advantage, and like 1000 other things.. Some people didn't even have viable pokes for crying out loud.

The revisionist history about MK9 needs to end. The game was a complete mess, but we loved it because it revived something beautiful and was fun.

Mk9 was 1 final patch away from perfect...

 

[MKF30]

Also, @ Crimson if you don't believe me. Watch this video, top Xbox live player number 1 Cage on Xbox player rank vs my Sektor/Ermac in my prime. Still think Cage was impossible to beat vs. this bs in this game? You won't be seeing a mid or lower beating an S tier in this game lol...

Somewhere in the sewers between special forces and mk3 gold. Untested broken mess that could be good if NRS would at least try to be competent

You mean MK 4/Gold. MK 3 had UMK3, then was MK 4 and then MKGold. Though MK 4 was better than MKG. MKG was sadly a broken mess, MK 4 doesn't get enough credit honestly. I'd play that game over any of the 3D MK's and even MK 11 on some days, especially now with the KL glitches.

 

[xenogorgeous]

MK 9 did have issues but it's issues were consistent unlike MK 11's, MK 11's you never know what's going to happen with hitboxes for example, if you're lucky enough to duck throws or get thrown, MK 11 literally turns into a pokefest at times and if you get locked in the corner you better pray you guess right to escape it. MK 9 you at least had to respect them, which I liked. Wake ups started going down hill in MK X and they're even worse in MK 11. But yeah I mean no game is perfect and every game has some issues.

yep, fellow, maybe the problem is the engine update .... every new MK game, NRS just pick the UE 3 engine and modify/change A LOT, transforming it in another version of it, in order to support the new graphics and mechanics technology of the current time the game is release, and so, some mess is done while the game is in it development stage .... I dunno, maybe, NRS could try to to invest in another engine, or try to develop its own original engine for fighting games, like others games companies in the industry do themselves ....

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Mk9 was 1 final patch away from perfect...

You mean like 3 patches and a major engine overhaul

 

[MKF30]

More like 1 big patch, as oppose to MK 11 needing 100 more patches lol ^

yep, fellow, maybe the problem is the engine update .... every new MK game, NRS just pick the UE 3 engine and modify/change A LOT, transform it in another version of it, in order to support the new graphics and mechanics technology of the current time the game is release, and so, some mess is done while the game is in it development stage .... I dunno, maybe, NRS could try to to invest in another engine, or try to develop its own, like others games companies in the industry do themselves ....

Yeah, I remember rumors early on were they used the U4 engine but was modified U3 engine. I think MK 12 will definitely use U4 engine and hopefully that'll help with the gameplay engine, mechanics. To be fair to MK 11's early lifecycle, NRS has more than enough time to fix the problems with it so hopefully they will. But as of now at least, MK 9 is still the overall better game and experience to me overall. To each his own though. If we're talking the past 3 games. What are your favorite MK games? Do you have an order or you like them all equally?

 

[Jynks]

MK2
MK11
MKxL
MK9
MKvsDC (I loved this game, so what wana fight about it?)

MK9-still the best NRS game to me overall, was fun, didn't have nearly the amount of dumb, inconsistent gimmicky BS that MK 11 has.

what?!! rofl. MK9 was a completely unbalanced mess... such a mess in fact that NRS is still perceived as a joke in the wider competitive scene even though they have been balanced as fuck with largest roster slot representation in the entire FGC for like 2 games in a row. It was so bad it basically tainted the entire name of NRS in the greater FGC.

If MK9 came out now, people would HATE it. Can we stop pretending MK9 was like the bees knees and just admit it was a time and a place thing?

 

[MKF30]

MK2
MK11
MKxL
MK9
MKvsDC (I loved this game, so what wana fight about it?)



what?!! rofl. MK9 was a completely unbalanced mess... such a mess in fact that NRS is still perceived as a joke in the wider competitive scene even though they have been balanced as fuck with largest roster slot representation in the entire FGC for like 2 games in a row. It was so bad it basically tainted the entire name of NRS in the greater FGC.

If MK9 came out now, people would HATE it. Can we stop pretending MK9 was like the bees knees?

It wasn't as bad as people make it out to be, MK 11 was an unbalanced mess til recently lol and still has issues that need addressed. MK 9 needed one more big patch. MK 11 however lmao needs a shitton to be anywhere near perfect. Who cares what a few elitist haters think of NRS being a "joke" lol if you want a joke, look at SF5 that's a joke lol They put out the game incomplete lol. The game was still at majors, increased MKC tenfold, sold insanely well and put MK back on the map for serious fighters which we hadn't seen since UMK3.

It didn't taint anything since it was considered the savior of the franchise post MK vs DC and 3D era which were beyond busted....in case you're unaware lol. It broke MK 2's record and was up there with S4's record so tainted? My ass lol. That's like saying if SF 4 came out now people would hate it, that's such a moot point. Why? Majority feel the same way I do here given their order lol. MK 11 is not a bad game but it's far, far from perfect. If anything MK 9 saved the franchise, broke MK 2's records, made MK a public gaming figure again compared to the joke it was in the 3D era. MK 9 was one of the best MK's ever made, period. Was it perfect? No, but no game is. You also have to consider the fact that MK 9 paved the way for MK games now and every day in case you haven't noticed, I see people raging at the dumb shit in MK 11. I never saw people rant this much in any previous NRS title...just saying.

 

[PapaRegadetho]

I remember the times when Mk9 game out and people used to find a buttload of things in just a short time and eventually more stuff was found, yet it was still lacking in depth compared to SFIV ( people used to do that) or anything on the market back then. MKX while an apsolute mess, it was depthfull. MK11 while clean balancewise, the game grew stale after just two weeks. The things you learned at launch is still being used after months.
And on top of that, the fun factor that NRS had is gone, in fact its mostly infuriating than anything. Its by far the biggest piece of garbage since vanilla SFV.

MK9 is my all time favorite despite its flaws, in fact id rather they bring us back MK9 with the new netcode than give us more content for MK11.
But my top 3 are :
1.Mk9
2.MK Shaolin Monks
3. Mk2

 

[MKF30]

I remember the times when Mk9 game out and people used to find a buttload of things in just a short time and eventually more stuff was found, yet it was still lacking in depth compared to SFIV ( people used to do that) or anything on the market back then. MKX while an apsolute mess, it was depthfull. MK11 while clean balancewise, the game grew stale after just two weeks. The things you learned at launch is still being used after months.
And on top of that, the fun factor that NRS had is gone, in fact its mostly infuriating than anything. Its by far the biggest piece of garbage since vanilla SFV.

MK9 is my all time favorite despite its flaws, in fact id rather they bring us back MK9 with the new netcode than give us more content for MK11.

This ^ plus I think those hating on MK 9 need to remember, if not for the success of that game we'd have no MK X or MK 11. Funny how fast people forget that lol.

 

[Jynks]

I remember the times when Mk9 game out and people used to find a buttload of things in just a short time and eventually more stuff was found, yet it was still lacking in depth compared to SFIV ( people used to do that) or anything on the market back then. MKX while an apsolute mess, it was depthfull. MK11 while clean balancewise, the game grew stale after just two weeks. The things you learned at launch is still being used after months.
And on top of that, the fun factor that NRS had is gone, in fact its mostly infuriating than anything. Its by far the biggest piece of garbage since vanilla SFV.

I would like to put forth that most people who are so in love with MK9 where just kids when it came out. Kids love things and when they get older they still love them. I mean my kdis love the Star Wars Prequels and now that most of them are all adults the Prequels are getting a revival and everyone is saying that there were not that bad. To me they sucked.

What I am getting at here is that MK9 was like a decade ago. So sure some of use were old even then (like me : (... but most people around here were like kids in their 20s or younger. THAT is probably why you like MK9. As most are adults now, and simply do not play games in the same way. So your like.. meh MK11 dose nothing.. but the truth is that no on game is like the past. Final Fantasy is a great example.. do you ever wonder why every generation thinks their final fantasy ws the best one ever?

 

[PapaRegadetho]

I would like to put forth that most people who are so in love with MK9 where just kids when it came out. Kids love things and when they get older they still love them. I mean my kdis love the Star Wars Prequels and now that most of them are all adults the Prequels are getting a revival and everyone is saying that there were not that bad. To me they sucked.

What I am getting at here is that MK9 was like a decade ago. So sure some of use were old even then (like me : (... but most people around here were like kids in their 20s or younger. THAT is probably why you like MK9. As most are adults now, and simply do not play games in the same way.

Alright. Glad you mentioned Star Wars, all of the movies sucked to me when I was a child. The reason you like the original Star Wars because you were a kid, if we gonna go by your thesis.

I know why I like MK9, and it isn't nostalgia.

 

[MKF30]

I just want to say just because something is a decade old don't mean anything, UMK3 is decades old yet still considered one of the best popular MK's from a competitive standpoint. If we're going by age alone then every fighter from the 90's through 2011 would be irrelevant. I don't think that's an fair assessment, and who doesn't still like MK 2 or SF2 unless you're a Gen Zer or younger Millennial?

FTR, I'm in my late 30's lol and I love MK 9 not for nostalgic reasons, though I do appreciate the nods to the 90's games. Games always evolve though not just FG but in general, the very first known FG Karate Champ at the time was groundbreaking putting two people against each other. Fast Forward to the 90's and that game is seen as a joke, go to 2000's and the early 90's are seen as primitive, so on and so forth. That doesn't mean the game still isn't popular or played though. Just because something is the latest trend or year doesn't mean it's necessarily better than predecessors. With cars this is usually true, but with games and movies far from true.