Who are the most improved characters in version 1.07?

[Circus]

Care to elaborate?

45% unbreakable damage withing Fatal Blow range, BUT YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO USE THE FATAL BLOW BECAUSE OF THE CANCEL. The ShadesThrow Krushing Blow allows this.

Unbreakable damage in general with the AmpCamera. Great set play with no knockdowns. He has an amazing auto-shimmy string that could go into a huge hit confirm so his grab game is as good as other characters with auto-shimmys like Noob, Cassie, and Baraka. In some matchups he even has AmpForceballs being + on strings so he could immediately go into his auto-shimmy or grab once again.

He's like a different version of Cassie's Yaas Queen now. He's a footsies beast.
Once he gets going, he keeps going because he doesn't have to worry about the opponent's wakeup options. You get hit once, he gets the opportunity to hit you again with no risk at all. It's a borderline vortex.

No gimmicks, just solid play, so I could kind of see how people are overlooking it, but if a top player gets their hands on Showstopper, just get ready to start seeing the bandwagon. The character is crazy good at the moment.

 

[FreshFromTheDeli]

She was not the worst character in the game previously.

Kotal was worse than her.

This is just subjective.

However I completely disagree.

I sub D'vorah and Kotal so I think from my personal exp. D'vorah was worse than Kotal.

 

[kcd117]

Frost received the most game-changing buffs and appears to sit at a very good spot in the meta rn.

D'vorah got the buffs she needed to be viable in both variations and is now a very solid character.

Noob got the treatment all characters should've gotten. They made both of his variations very good without being broken.

And lbsh, Johnny Cage is an extremely fucked up character if we look at his frame data and pressure tools, and they fixed a major part of his whiffing issues with the patch, so he certainly went from like top 15 to top 10. If they ever allow his force balls to jail on everyone he'll secure that top 3 spot no doubt.

 

[Pterodactyl]

This is just subjective.

However I completely disagree.

I sub D'vorah and Kotal so I think from my personal exp. D'vorah was worse than Kotal.

That’d be a compelling point if I didn’t sub them both since release.

But I have/do, and I completely disagree with you.

 

[FreshFromTheDeli]

That’d be a compelling point if I didn’t sub them both since release.

But I have/do, and I completely disagree with you.

And?

I already said this is subjective.

Fair enough.

Let's agree that D'vorah is a better character then before.

 

[TakeAChance]

I think Liu Kang. Easier jailing into a + frame 12 stagger....if you respect it, you get another 12 stagger OR a F4 for your troubles.

Probably the best blender strike/throw in the game now and it's easier than ever to get it.

I'm just sitting over here with my Kung Lao....with my 8f standing 1 thats -3 and 12 (-5) respectively hanging out with my 10f mid that doesn't have a crushing blow attached to it. #Number2Shaolin.

 

[MKF30]

Dvorah by far for me, every dvorah player tries the same shit with her jailing frame trap strings and pokes with those damn spider legs. One guy I played online tried to sell me bs that shes "lowest tier" and that he invented her techs and don't listen to Honeybee lol.

 

[Circus]

Frost received the most game-changing buffs and appears to sit at a very good spot in the meta rn.

D'vorah got the buffs she needed to be viable in both variations and is now a very solid character.

Noob got the treatment all characters should've gotten. They made both of his variations very good without being broken.

And lbsh, Johnny Cage is an extremely fucked up character if we look at his frame data and pressure tools, and they fixed a major part of his whiffing issues with the patch, so he certainly went from like top 15 to top 10. If they ever allow his force balls to jail on everyone he'll secure that top 3 spot no doubt.

This.
Everyone just read this.

It'll be the only thing you need to read in the entire thread. These are the characters who benefitted the most from the patch.

 

[lionheart21]

Dvorah by far for me, every dvorah player tries the same shit with her jailing frame trap strings and pokes with those damn spider legs. One guy I played online tried to sell me bs that shes "lowest tier" lol

Unless he somehow didn't get the patch installed, he's completely full of shit. Her pressure game is one of the most oppressive in the game now.

 

[Ray'sGoodLiquor]

I don't play the whole cast so it's hard to say, but I'm giving a BIG 2nd look at spare change Kollector and dirtbag Kano. I've been waiting for a proper dot trap character but most of the variations that used dots were inferior. I think plasma grenade jacqui got a little better as well.

 

[Circus]

I don't play the whole cast so it's hard to say, but I'm giving a BIG 2nd look at spare change Kollector and dirtbag Kano. I've been waiting for a proper dot trap character but most of the variations that used dots were inferior. I think plasma grenade jacqui got a little better as well.

Dude, if you want DOT pick Erron Black and be done with it lol

 

[Ray'sGoodLiquor]

Dude, if you want DOT pick Erron Black be done with it lol

He's off the table because I just don't like playing him. I grew up with a lot of cowboys and he just reminds of a really homoerotic stripper with a bunch of bad action movie 1 liners. While I totally agree with you, I should have mentioned I have no interest in playing EB lol

 

[M2Dave]

45% unbreakable damage withing Fatal Blow range, BUT YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO USE THE FATAL BLOW BECAUSE OF THE CANCEL. The ShadesThrow Krushing Blow allows this.

Unbreakable damage in general with the AmpCamera. Great set play with no knockdowns. He has an amazing auto-shimmy string that could go into a huge hit confirm so his grab game is as good as other characters with auto-shimmys like Noob, Cassie, and Baraka. In some matchups he even has AmpForceballs being + on strings so he could immediately go into his auto-shimmy or grab once again.

He's like a different version of Cassie's Yaas Queen now. He's a footsies beast.
Once he gets going, he keeps going because he doesn't have to worry about the opponent's wakeup options. You get hit once, he gets the opportunity to hit you again with no risk at all. It's a borderline vortex.

No gimmicks, just solid play, so I could kind of see how people are overlooking it, but if a top player gets their hands on Showstopper, just get ready to start seeing the bandwagon. The character is crazy good at the moment.

Johnny Cage is certainly not as bad as some players claim. However, I have yet to see anyone not named Kombat talk about taking the character seriously. Generally speaking, the vast majority of players appear to be sticking with their main characters, though.

And LOL @ Kotal Kahn getting no votes.

 

[AbyssWalker]

Kotal is a joke, months of anticipation for a proper balance patch and got shat on.

 

[DeftMonk]

What yo

45% unbreakable damage withing Fatal Blow range, BUT YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO USE THE FATAL BLOW BECAUSE OF THE CANCEL. The ShadesThrow Krushing Blow allows this.

Unbreakable damage in general with the AmpCamera. Great set play with no knockdowns. He has an amazing auto-shimmy string that could go into a huge hit confirm so his grab game is as good as other characters with auto-shimmys like Noob, Cassie, and Baraka. In some matchups he even has AmpForceballs being + on strings so he could immediately go into his auto-shimmy or grab once again.

He's like a different version of Cassie's Yaas Queen now. He's a footsies beast.
Once he gets going, he keeps going because he doesn't have to worry about the opponent's wakeup options. You get hit once, he gets the opportunity to hit you again with no risk at all. It's a borderline vortex.

No gimmicks, just solid play, so I could kind of see how people are overlooking it, but if a top player gets their hands on Showstopper, just get ready to start seeing the bandwagon. The character is crazy good at the moment.

am I missing something? Great set play with no knockdowns? You lost me there. Honestly I rarely use any of the moves that come with the other variation(knuckles, caged rage, parry) I just prefer that variation for the nutpunch. I do use the stuff just not near as much as any other char uses it’s variation specific moves (except knuckles I never use that).

 

[MKF30]

Yeah Johnny definitely isn't bad, this one guy got me into a reset partial with his cancels. I couldn't even use any wake ups because he kept staggering and cancelling me. Like WTF lol. Anyone says he sucks is lying. I've played a few solid Cages.

Unless he somehow didn't get the patch installed, he's completely full of shit. Her pressure game is one of the most oppressive in the game now.

Indeed, then he actually followed me(found me) on twitter[not creepy at all] and claimed that he invented her tech lol. Too funny.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

The only correct answer is D'Vorah.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

I chose D'Vorah and Kollector since they went from low tier to upper mId/low A time will tell.
I then chose Noob because his Seeing Double could be high tier. He gets great damage has a very string ghost ball and has combos off his F22 which is super strong not to mention he can make anything safe and has amazing mids.

Frost because she was already good but now she has better hitboxes and can hail from pokes with an 11f mid. Dragon is gonna use her watch.
. honorable mentions:

Johnny Camera buff gives him 55-65% damage and 45% unbreakable combos and his plus on block connects on females. Amazing character.

Cetrion FON seems legit good with those cancels she may have received a nerf to rock but it was counterable before and Cetrion's just need to alternate projectiles instead if using rock xx Earthquake frame trap. Its better because you can bait a jump after earthquake and cancel it to s1 them out of air. I see this variation doing work in tournys hopefully we see Shijinkydink place with his main.

 

[SwiftEagle]

Yeah Johnny definitely isn't bad, this one guy got me into a reset partial with his cancels. I couldn't even use any wake ups because he kept staggering and cancelling me. Like WTF lol. Anyone says he sucks is lying. I've played a few solid Cages.


Indeed, then he actually followed me(found me) on twitter[not creepy at all] and claimed that he invented her tech lol. Too funny.

Social media is the devil

 

[Pterodactyl]

This.
Everyone just read this.

It'll be the only thing you need to read in the entire thread. These are the characters who benefitted the most from the patch.

Them fixing his whiffing really improved him that significantly?

 

[ienjoywinning]

I think other characters although not touched a lot moved up a buuuuunch. Liu kangs teleport variation for example is now ridiculous

Why is it ridiculous?

 

[MKF30]

Social media is the devil

That's true

 

[SwiftEagle]

Why is it ridiculous?

You can't tell whether he's dropping from above, or if he's going low. It's stupid.

 

[ienjoywinning]

You can't tell whether he's dropping from above, or if he's going low. It's stupid.

Thats a 50/50 , its low reward high risk on top of that this is not ridiculous in the slightest , this variation loses nearly all mindgames that are in the other variation , its no where near as good as the other one. And neither of them are ridiculous in the first place.

 

[Vslayer]

The fact that people aren't saying Johnny is scaring me...

The character is legitimately top 6-7 AT THE VERY LEAST at the moment imo.

DVorah and Kollector did jump to mid-tier, but it isn't as drastic of a jump as Johnny.

Just wait and see lol. Players like Hayate, Sonic, Kombat, and a few others have already taken notice lol.

Be careful you’ll attract the Johnny downplayers with that kind of sensical talk.