Soul Calibur 6: THE SOUL STILL BURNS!

[HeavyNorse]

Z. W. E. I was cool but the game already has a super edgy character (Groh) and he was probably one of the worst characters in the history of Soul Calibur in SCV in terms of strength. He was so bad it was laughable.

I guess that doesn’t mean anything though since Raphael is normally garbage and he was broken as hell on release for SC6.

Edit: That’s not me saying ZWEI wouldn’t be a cool choice since his design is so unique. It just seems unlikely since Setsuka, Aeon, and Hwang/Yun-Seong are missing still.

However Zwei was in SCV doesn't really matter. What matters is what they do with him in SCVI, should he return.

 

[Eldagrin]

Anyone in here had a chance to try out Cassandra yet? From what I can see on discord her lightning attacks are insanely strong but also damage her guard stamina which means they have an actual drawback. If it costs her stamina then Mi-Na could end up being a bad MU for her.

 

[Eldagrin]

So Cassandra seems really insane, her throw game is amazing; none of her throws are bad and she has a ton of command throws. She has a +2 on hit unreactable low and a KD on hit unreactable low. Her lows also have the annoying property of recovering in crouch but being around -14-16. She has great range on a lot of her moves, she’s evasive, a ton of her moves put you in forced crouch on block. She’s safe or + feeling on a lot of her moves. She has highs but there is a mid follow up that always has a different GI timing/you can’t RE one option; the mids in these situations are also all safe or neutral on block.

Her damage output is on par with Gloomy Tira, especially once she has Divine Favor (DF). She also builds DF pretty easily and her CE does 95 damage with DF. Her aGIs are solid, not as good as Sophie’s or X’s though. All of her self guard damage moves are insanely good. They’re safe and do a lot of damage. It is worth noting that her 214 aGI also damages her guard stamina.

Honestly with her damage and the way her frames feel and have turned out (she’s safe on almost everything but all of her angel step moves are -18 or more) she feels super unga bunga. You pretty much can’t press a button without hitting a good move. She has mid step kills for days that are all safe and + on hit. Her punish game isn’t as good as Raphael/Sophie/Taki/Gloomy Tira but it is definitely up there.

She will be deleting her own guard stamina so if you play someone with good guard crushing (Sieg, Mi-Na, Raphael, Azwel, etc.) you’ll probably crush her a lot.
Her side step is alright, her backdash/walk are atrocious, they may easily be the worst in the game. Her forward run speed is insane though, she closes distances extremely quick.
Also her Soul Charge is BROKEN, I think the only soul charges that even get close to comparing are Mi-Na, Sieg, and Purple Amy’s. She hits you and accidentally does 100 damage pretty much, that sums up Cass’s SC. Her CE is great but you’ll probably never see it because her SC is pretty much like Soul Calibur terrorism. I would highly recommend labbing your character’s options against Cassie and where you can duck/RE/GI against her because she is SIGNIFICANTLY more pick up and play friendly than Amy.

 

[Eldagrin]

So more crazy Cassandra tech that I'll share from discord for anyone who is interested. After her 3B if she delays a bit her BBB can only be air controlled to the left but her BB(B) can only be air controlled to the right. If she hits with 3B into BBB then 1A+B is guaranteed which relaunches on whether you tech or stay grounded which combos into 66BB which splats you down in front of her. This means that Cass gets to run her oki game on you or forces you to ukemi and eat a mix up. The 3B combo if you don't guess the AC correctly is 92 damage as well.

Her 1K stuns on CH and combos into her 6B+K:A for 45 damage and oki afterwards. Her 6B+K:A picks you up off the ground and W!/RO! to Cassie's right side so it's a similar move to Mi-Na's 66B+K. You can duck the A if you manage to block a 6B+K:A. If you hit someone with Cass's 1(B) you get a free back throw from 1/2A+G which gives her a DF charge and leaving you close to her for oki (I'm sensing a theme here). Her 6K is a safe on block, +8 on hit instant tech crouching move that does around 10% guard damage and on counter hit instantly puts her into titanic struggle where you have to guess on the mix up. Note you can break titanic struggle like you can a throw. Back break works on her ass slam and forward break works on her shield slam that gives her divine favor. If she has divine favor she can 4A+B to get an unbreakable follow up that self damages her as well as doing a ton to you.

Cassandra also has a really scary punish game in DF. When she has DF she gains access to 6BA+B which is an i16 punish that does a massive 74 damage and drops you right in front of her for her great oki game. She also has one of the best duck punishes in the game in her WR B+K which launches and combos into Angelic Twirl (AT) K, 6B+K:A for 66 damage or into 8B+K for a titanic struggle mix-up (each titanic struggle entry also builds towards her TS Lethal hits). Her AK is also a 26 damage i12 punish and her BB is a 28 damage i14 punish which gives her very solid punishes in general.

Her 3A+B is an insanely strong move for use against characters like Ivy/Mi-Na who will be trying to zone her out. On block it does 25% guard damage and 12 chip. On hit she can run up and combo it into 66A+B4 for a ridiculous 95 damage and another DF charge allowing her to have another 3A+B to check you at range.

If she has any real weaknesses it is probably her approach and her guard self damage, she has a Raphael tier approach game without the whiff punishing range of his tools. She seems to struggle to close the gap on anyone who outranges her (most characters) although once she gets in it is very difficult to get her back out of your face because of her general frames and good anti-step up close. At range her only button with any real range is 66B which is a vertical whose follow ups are a slow short ranged HIGH horizontal attack or a second mid vertical with decent range. As for the guard damage, everytime she uses a move where she flashes blue and pink she does 9% damage to her guard stamina. If you're using a character with massive guard damage like Mi-Na or NM it is very easy to crush her guard if she is overzealous with her self damage moves.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

I just recovered from a crazy EVO weekend so im finally getting my hands on this character today. And looking back at my placement out of 746 people in this tournament, I made 97th place. TOP 100! Im soooo fucking proud that i reached my goal from last year and that was to at least make it out of pools. I proved to myself that whatever game I touch, I can improve, grow, and git good babY! And THAT is RIGHTEOUS!

 

[Eldagrin]

I just recovered from a crazy EVO weekend so im finally getting my hands on this character today. And looking back at my placement out of 746 people in this tournament, I made 97th place. TOP 100! Im soooo fucking proud that i reached my goal from last year and that was to at least make it out of pools. I proved to myself that whatever game I touch, I can improve, grow, and git good babY! And THAT is RIGHTEOUS!

97th place? Damn that’s great for your first Major Soul Calibur tournament Beezy, 97/746 is sweet.

 

[xenogorgeous]

97th place? Damn that’s great for your first Major Soul Calibur tournament Beezy, 97/746 is sweet.

yep, it's great, so, there is room for improvement, in future EVOs !

 

[JBeezYBabY]

97th place? Damn that’s great for your first Major Soul Calibur tournament Beezy, 97/746 is sweet.

THAAAAAANK YOU! So frickin' happy! Getting DQed in SamSho was worth it HAHAHAH!

yep, it's great, so, there is room for improvement, in future EVOs !

For now on in future EVOs, im gonna concentrate on 1 game. These past 2 ive gotten DQed for a game because i didnt make the time or just forgot about it. And it helped i finessed my way through the front of the line, otherwise i would have missed SC6 too! Thank you EVO security

 

[Eldagrin]

THAAAAAANK YOU! So frickin' happy! Getting DQed in SamSho was worth it HAHAHAH!



For now on in future EVOs, im gonna concentrate on 1 game. These past 2 ive gotten DQed for a game because i didnt make the time or just forgot about it. And it helped i finessed my way through the front of the line, otherwise i would have missed SC6 too! Thank you EVO security

It sucks that you missed SamSho but at least you did that well in SC6. We’re gonna have to play sometime if you’re not too Hollywood with your good placement lmao

 

[JBeezYBabY]

It sucks that you missed SamSho but at least you did that well in SC6. We’re gonna have to play sometime if you’re not too Hollywood with your good placement lmao

Fuuuuck! Im always trying to improve. Matter of fact....i hear the patch notes are out. Can you find it and link em here por favor?

 

[Eldagrin]

Fuuuuck! Im always trying to improve. Matter of fact....i hear the patch notes are out. Can you find it and link em here por favor?

The Cass patch only fixed bugs and added the option to make your opponent’s CaS look like default characters (and hit boxes) in ranked. There are leaked Season 2 notes on discord that I can post when I get off work though.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

The Cass patch only fixed bugs and added the option to make your opponent’s CaS look like default characters (and hit boxes) in ranked. There are leaked Season 2 notes on discord that I can post when I get off work though.

I think those are the notes ive seen but now that i think about it, it was in Discord. It looks legit.

 

[Eldagrin]

@JBeezYBabY I just went and looked on a couple of discords and the changes made in the patch were pretty much all hitbox changes. I'm totally good with them trying to fix hitboxes in this game because man are they still inconsistent sometimes. Tira also got a buff technically since apparently her hurtbox was bigger than her character model which meant she was getting hit by verticals and tech traps that don't hit other characters.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

@JBeezYBabY I just went and looked on a couple of discords and the changes made in the patch were pretty much all hitbox changes. I'm totally good with them trying to fix hitboxes in this game because man are they still inconsistent sometimes. Tira also got a buff technically since apparently her hurtbox was bigger than her character model which meant she was getting hit by verticals and tech traps that don't hit other characters.

I do remember seeing buffs done to Mina. Something about enlarging the hit box on her FC 3K some shit like that. I gotta find it but just been tired from Vegas. I guess my body is still recovering. I still haven't did an in depth lab with Cassandra. Im so behind...

 

[Eldagrin]

I do remember seeing buffs done to Mina. Something about enlarging the hit box on her FC 3K some shit like that. I gotta find it but just been tired from Vegas. I guess my body is still recovering. I still haven't did an in depth lab with Cassandra. Im so behind...

I’ve posted a fair amount of stuff about Cassandra, I can also give you a link to the Cassie discord which is super active right now if you want.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

I’ve posted a fair amount of stuff about Cassandra, I can also give you a link to the Cassie discord which is super active right now if you want.

Send it to my inbox plz that way it will be easier access from my phone

 

[Eldagrin]

Send it to my inbox plz that way it will be easier access from my phone

You got it.

 

[Eldagrin]

So does anyone else find certain characters really rare online and others really popular? Azwel is widely considered best in the game atm but I basically never see one anywhere. Tira and Kilik are also really rare for me.

I see Mitsu, Yoshi, and Ivy like every other game though. Cassandra is also understandably very popular right now.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

So does anyone else find certain characters really rare online and others really popular? Azwel is widely considered best in the game atm but I basically never see one anywhere. Tira and Kilik are also really rare for me.

I see Mitsu, Yoshi, and Ivy like every other game though. Cassandra is also understandably very popular right now.

I see plenty of Tiras, very few Kiliks tho. Been seeing few Minas too actually but im just trying to figure out Cass, She's different with ALOT of buttons. But once i get that down then im ready to see if I want to main her or not. I mean, i beat E level Astaroths w/ my sprout Cass so i guess future is looking bright

 

[Eldagrin]

I see plenty of Tiras, very few Kiliks tho. Been seeing few Minas too actually but im just trying to figure out Cass, She's different with ALOT of buttons. But once i get that down then im ready to see if I want to main her or not. I mean, i beat E level Astaroths w/ my sprout Cass so i guess future is looking bright

She’s really really strong up close. She’s a total unga bunga character. She definitely gets zoned though. Her approach is weaker than Sophie’s for sure.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

She’s really really strong up close. She’s a total unga bunga character. She definitely gets zoned though. Her approach is weaker than Sophie’s for sure.

Im still trying to figure out her fastest buttons for pokes. Not sure if 2A or 2K would be a better route because her BC (back crouching) B leaves he plus on hit.

 

[Eldagrin]

Im still trying to figure out her fastest buttons for pokes. Not sure if 2A or 2K would be a better route because her BC (back crouching) B leaves he plus on hit.

I think her 2A is a good poke. It has pretty shitty range though. I’m not sure if her 2K tracks or not. Honestly her frames are so good in general atm that it’s hard to hit a bad button.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

I think her 2A is a good poke. It has pretty shitty range though. I’m not sure if her 2K tracks or not. Honestly her frames are so good in general atm that it’s hard to hit a bad button.

Ive noticed most of her moves do not track at all! Its actually bad. But i guess her kit compensates for that which im learning. But already saw on Twitter that the devs plan on "fixing" her soon cuz she got some crazy ass bugs.

Her RE K rings out through walls which is super fucking funny
And her chip damage actually kills which is NOT intended.

I did see your invite but i was learning her because i dont know how to use her quite yet. But i will be streaming her today because i just made a new outfit for her that you will love

 

[JBeezYBabY]

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[Eldagrin]

Ive noticed most of her moves do not track at all! Its actually bad. But i guess her kit compensates for that which im learning. But already saw on Twitter that the devs plan on "fixing" her soon cuz she got some crazy ass bugs.

Her RE K rings out through walls which is super fucking funny
And her chip damage actually kills which is NOT intended.

I did see your invite but i was learning her because i dont know how to use her quite yet. But i will be streaming her today because i just made a new outfit for her that you will love

Sure, just let me know when you want to play. Yeah her tracking isn't that great in general although 3AK is pretty solid, it is -14 though which is rough against some characters if you commit to 3AK everytime without every doing just 3A. Her 214A is a really good step kill at a decent range though. Her frames are nuts though