I'm tired of fighting a HORDE of Scorpions and losing only because I play D'vorah!

[xenogorgeous]

understandable your frustration, hehe .... for now, Scorpion is really a bad matchup for D'vorah, kinda 7-3 favouring Scorpion .... maybe the future patchs will buff D´vorah .... I play D'vorah myself and I know how hard is to win with her, but, I love challenge, so , it's amusing try to fight using her, hehe .... even if it's the odds are very unfavorable to our adorable insectoid lady

 

[CrazyFingers]

First I would like to preface that I am not commenting on your skill as a player and if you read this with that in mind, you'll tend to get less mad. That being said...

...you should probably look at the situation a different way. I am no stranger to garbage matchups, I played Swamp Thing vs the endless horde of Deadshot players that existed during I2s lifetime. I played against the Mileenas with Killer Leatherface during MKX (this MU was utter garbage at any skill level) and like...I beat them. Basically all them, defeated. Was it hard? Absolutely it was hard but to chock your losses 100% to "bad matchup" is counter productive and will lead to a regression of skill regardless of how good you are as a player. I would pay more attention to what exactly makes the MU so terrible and try to play around those points. I know D'vorah is a dumpster fire of a character, I'm sort of a dumpster fire conosiour at this point it appears but as a conosiour of the garbage inferno that is the lower tier of NRS games I can tell you that you can absolutely still beat that character. Hell, Scorpion is a hike up a brick wall for my character too but I still manage. Looking at the situation through a different lense can lead to you overcoming this stuff.

It could come down to maybe it really is just unwinnably bad (I highly doubt it but sure, maybe it is) it could come down to you playing it wrong and not budging on the playstyle you need to use to beat the character. Theres so much to matchups that just chocking your losses to "it's a bad matchup" and then making a whole salty thread on it feels...reductionist and self destructive to you as a player. Just my thoughts, no ill will meant from one low tier player to another.

 

[Tanya-Fan-28]

Tbh I'm getting sick of the horde of Scorpions as well. I think what happens is there are non-mk fans who saw the hype, bought the game and automatically went for Scorpion because they don't know anybody else. Its just a theory but the game is still new and hopefully this will die down in the future. Especially with DLC and patches.

 

[CrazyFingers]

Tbh I'm getting sick of the horde of Scorpions as well. I think what happens is there are non-mk fans who saw the hype, bought the game and automatically went for Scorpion because they don't know anybody else. Its just a theory but the game is still new and hopefully this will die down in the future. Especially with DLC and patches.

The more likely thing is Scorpion is one of the most if not THE most popular MK character ever/is the poster boy and those characters in every fighting game are the most popular. See

Soulcalibur: Nightmare
Street Fighter: Ryu/Ken
DBFZ: Goku, pick one

The list kinda goes on, if you're on the cover you're probably gonna get played a lot.

 

[xenogorgeous]

Tbh I'm getting sick of the horde of Scorpions as well. I think what happens is there are non-mk fans who saw the hype, bought the game and automatically went for Scorpion because they don't know anybody else. Its just a theory but the game is still new and hopefully this will die down in the future. Especially with DLC and patches.

yep, once NRS nerf Scorpion teleport, the natural stuff is seeing less and less people picking him up on online matches ..... always happen this way, hehe

 

[NothingPersonal]

It's you.

Here's my psn.

I want a full report!

 

[Juggs]

This. This is what I mean when I say people use low tier so they can use the low tier OS. “It’s not that I’m bad it’s that my character is!”

As Tweedy (and SonicFox) said... PICK ANOTHER CHARACTER!

For absolute fuck sake. You don’t HAVE to use D’Vorah.

 

[M.D.]

Well, for us plebs that don't go to tournaments for money, maybe we expected to be able to actually use our favorite character and actually have fun without dealing with braindead teleports 9 frame mids f43u3 b222stance strings and having no answer to them except play 10 times better and work out a sweat at the end of each match while the opponent just lets his pet cat press the pad while they're sipping umbrella drinks.

 

[Raider]

I am already literally sick of playing against Scorpion online. 80% of my matches have been against Scorpion. It's just... boring, tiring and did i say boring??

@OP try to learn another character. I am big D'Vorah fan since MKX and i accepted the fact that because of NRS i can't do a lot with D'Vorah rn. That's why i am learning and playing other characters. I really want to play D'Vorah more, but it is what it is rn. They clearly wanted to destroy her with day one patch, while at the same time we have some crazy overpowered characters in the game for more than a month now. NRS is just SO SLOW with this game when it comes to updates and their communication is shitty. So just learn another character and wait for the patch, because she can only be buffed at this point.

Scorpion beats spider. Just like real life.

Are you sure??

 

[Marlow]

Maybe try recording your matches, and then reviewing the losses to see where things got away from you, and where there may have been some missed opportunities. If you'd like you could probably even share them on the relevant character forums on TYM, I'm sure there are plenty of talented players that wouldn't mind sharing some tips or helping analyzing the matches.

 

[LightsOut452]

just dont play with randoms then

find other people to play with, training partners, run private matches or KOTHs with them

fighting random scorpion players is annoying, every time i hop on ranked i see them (or people switch to them after 1 loss)

but hey, if their dumb yolo strategies work, you need to learn how to beat those too, don't you agree?

 

[stokedAF]

Pick a new character yo. Shao Kahn vs scorpion is also a really bad match up but I’m having fun with the character so I don’t care when I get my ass kicked. If you’re not having fun it’s time to switch.

My problem is that I primarily focus on Kahn so if he’s not working for me then I don’t have an answer lol. I don’t know how to play anyone else. I think having 2 mains that play differently is a wise move. I’m waiting for Shang keep D’Vorah in your back pocket and pick someone else.

 

[agass1k]

Playing Jade and guessing right 5 times in a row only to lose a match on one wrong guess is frustrating as well.
But try to take my advice and try to relax.
Getting mad at a computer game doesn't do anything for you.

Hell, getting on here and seeing these clowns try to school me about the character I've been playing and labbing and literally insulting me ad hominem for saying she needs fixes is a frustrating experience in its own right, but letting petty shit make you mad is no way to live your life.

Its true... but some players like geras or scorpions whitch won game 3-2, start trolling u, ducking, and do fatalities.... they dont understant that it just broken balance and they won cuz play S tier.... i dont know why but i happend for me only vs S tiers..... sometimes i tilted

 

[StormGoddess]

LOL,dont worry- D'Vorah's just taking her lumps for getting the kill on so many fan favorite characters in storymode.
Her day will come via patch.
SOMEDAY????

 

[GLoRToR]

Its true... but some players like geras or scorpions whitch won game 3-2, start trolling u, ducking, and do fatalities.... they dont understant that it just broken balance and they won cuz play S tier.... i dont know why but i happend for me only vs S tiers..... sometimes i tilted

So not only did they beat you at a game but they even won because they wanted to make you angry and they managed to.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

As per title.

Every time I fight online it's only Scorpion Scorpion Scorpion Scorpion Scorpion Scorpion Scorpion. Sometimes there's an Erron Black trying to be cheap.

You'd think after fighting a hundred Scorpions I would know the matchup so well. But the problem is that, like a fool, I insist on playing D'vorah. And the fact I play D'vorah means I automatically lose unless the Scorpion is a MUCH worse player than me, But if the Scorpion is simply a bit less skilled than me? He still wins, of course.

This is honestly ruining my enjoyment. I'm tired of fighting always the same easy and overpowered character, and I'm tired of losing only because I start with a very strong tier disadvantage.

I could be like some others and just assume you are playing her wrong or that you are a bad player but I know it's a bad matchup.
Her toolkit is shit and lacks what is needed for this meta. One of the few characters that need an overhaul. But you can be successful with her just like Kotal and Shao but it's just very basic and limited when she should be able to use all her moves and Specials.

I completely understand cuz I'm a Kotal Kahn player and he has hitbox issues on fundamental buttons: F1/F2/D1/B2/B22/1/12/122/2/22/CG
And it doesn't end there. 90% of his Special moves are completely risky and almost useless:

• Command grab is used to add much needed damage but it switches sides removing corner carry and position for nothing but 3-5%.
• Close up is garbage, can't counter poke with D1 cuz it wiffs taking it impossible to tick throw and it's range is absolutely garbage.
• all long range moves put Kotal point blank in thier face where he has problems having 15f being the fastest mid and 22f being the fastest combo starter mid and all Normals put Kotal far enough not to be able to tick or poke but close enough he can't do anything because he has no functioning fast mids or pokes.

I will stop there before it becomes a documentary on how bad Kotal is.

My advise is for you to pick up a pocket and use them for bad matchups until patch comes. This will help you have more fun and will help greatly in bad MU's and it will also help you understand other characters to a greater degree.

For Honest characters that are at least Mid Tier I recommend:

• Kitana,
• Jade,
• Scarlet.

Which all have range and are mainly footsie characters that have excellent space control. Kitana opens up by staggers and number of hit mix.

Well rounded characters that have everything you need:

• Erron Black: decent meterless damage, good counter zoning, 50/50mix, good mid range and close up.
• Baraka (tons of damage) mix= stagger/#ofhit.

• Sonya for high damage with 50/50s.
• SubZero for true 50/50s that are not highs but don't do as much damage.
• Cassie for 9fmid that is 0 ob , not the best damage but has good range and mids and has staggers and plus ob Normals.

I started to realize how bad my character was after playing him so much and experimenting with the roster.
What kind of style do you @Lun like to play?vhave you used any other characters and how successful where you with them?

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Just temporarily pick up an alt for Scorpion, it’s not that hard.

 

[Juxtapose]

You're optimistic. I'm expecting we won't see Shang Tsung till the END of June, and same goes for the much-needed balance patch.

Going by Mortal Kombat X, as a reference, I recall there being major balance changes after Combo Breaker (maybe a few weeks after) and leading up to EVO. I remember both Mileena and Kitana, my mains, getting some much needed improvements at the time.

Given that we've already had some balance changes in April and we've now seen the game in a high end, high profile tournament, I'd think more will be coming soon.

Until then, if you do insist on playing only D'Vorah (who does indeed need help), I'd recommend you follow @LightsOut452 's suggestion and find friends or a specific group of people to play with as opposed to randoms so you can have more varied experiences, and you can learn, improve, and train with them.

If you insist on playing D'Vorah only and stick only to randoms, then either temporarily picking another character for the match up would be your best course of action outside of giving the game a break for a while until a balance patch drops.

 

[Lun]

I guess the fact that the general consensus is "don't play D'vorah" speaker volumes about the state of the game's balance.... What I wonder is why one month laterale they still haven't fixed anything even if the balance is so unbalanced that a patch seems very urgent.

I guess since 90% of players are happy just playing Scorpion and such, they don't feel in a hurry.

 

[Juxtapose]

I guess the fact that the general consensus is "don't play D'vorah" speaker volumes about the state of the game's balance.... What I wonder is why one month laterale they still haven't fixed anything even if the balance is so unbalanced that a patch seems very urgent.

I guess since 90% of players are happy just playing Scorpion and such, they don't feel in a hurry.

It's not that at all. Overall, the game's balance is pretty good, but there's some characters that do appear too strong and that go against the design philosophy NetherRealm Studios was going for, and there's a small few characters that seems to be below that target. D'vorah is one of the latter.

I also know they don't want to rush patches and changes until they see the game properly in action in a professional competitive environment, and people explore options and tech more. Combo Breaker certainly allowed that, and we had a healthy mix of characters in the top 8, including characters oft seen as poorer compared to the current top.

I'd expect within the next month-ish tops, we'll see some balance changes.

 

[SaltShaker]

Man, I'm gonna do a "fite me" here and ask anybody who claims it's me not being good enough to challenge me. Come on. Gimme your psn id.

I'll go out on a limb and say it's 100% you, 0% the MU.

AoN_SaltShaker

 

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[mrapchem]

I have a question about these Scorpion players: are there patterns that a majority of them follow in your matches? Do they like to fake a jump-in and then teleport? Do they randomly tele in the neutral? Do they do unsafe strings on block? Scorpion is a very popular character and has been since forever, but what I've found is that the overwhelming majority of them play the character wrong and do things that beg for a punish, which makes the match easier for you, even if it is a losing one.

 

[JTC]

Ok so are you here to complain or ask for advice?

If the opponent is less skilled than you and theyre winning. Then its not a D'vorah problem.

 

[Elias6999]

You aren’t just losing because you picked D’vorah, you’re losing because your opponent picked Scorpion