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Brutality requirements are dumb and unnecessary

Brutalities are gorgeous in this game, but there is a problem: You can't do it in a real fight. You either have to play someone way below your level, or do it against ai.
Not mentioning the brutals that are specific to some moves ( competitively you will never get toasty brutality for ex).

I thought after mkx they would stop creating these stupid requirements like " Do it with mercy", " Over 40% of life"...."you have to do the command and suck a dick at the same time".

At the same time they have talent to create one of the best games of all time, they lack sensibility. They seem to not play video games at all.

Look at how awesome liu kang's arcade brutality is....but you will never do it.
 

xenogorgeous

.... they mostly come at night. Mostly.
agreed .... some are easy to do it, while others, the requirements are just ridiculous .... seems that were purposely created for offline casual only scenarios .... or for just happen accidently "all of sudden" and people scream "WOW, did you saw that ?" shock effect .... hehe :p
 

Vslayer

Juiced Moose On The Loose
Lead Moderator
Depends on the character, a lot of Cassie's are easy to do. Actually, all of them are.
 
brutalties have always been this way but a good amount of them are easy
Actually not. When mkx was released a lot were like that (like scorpion's spear one), but after a patch they changed it for better removing shit that are out of our control.

I think the misused word here is "difficulty". The problem is not difficulty. In order to do one of raiden's brutality I have to grab the fucker and press square and triangle repeatedly, and this is not "easy"...i mean. The problem is the bullshit.

To do something you have to do mercy? The opponent has to have 40% of life....my life has to be 40% over....you have to hit at "max distance"....there is a Raiden brutality that is a grab, and I can't do it because is atached to a move that nobody uses.

The word is not "difficulty", is bullshit. Everything wrong with this game is related to lack of sensibility. It is a matter to
...sit down and play and see if that shit makes sense. A lot don't make sense at all in this game.
 

Dayvo

My english it's not good
Brutalities are not meant to being done just because of the aesthetics, instead, they are more a way to taunt your oponent, to humilliate.

I mean, they are BRUTAL for more than the gore. The requeriments are so hard sometimes, that meeting them is brutal!!

I like to play with my friends with this rule:
-We both choose our character.
-We must finish the fight with a brutality
-Every time a brutality is used, we can't use it again
-If any of us loses, or wins without using a brutality, takes a shot/winner chooses loser character/loser can't use meter at all for 1 fight/whatever rule you want

It's a funny way to get super really cool moments, where both are a hit away from losing, and looking for that brutality we need xD
 
I really disagree with a lot of you guys.

The idea of any finish move in the game (for me) is to add variety and appreciate the creativity and the art that the developers included in the game, along with your ability to do the inputs on controller and be rewarded for that.

For me, it does not make sense at all to include something in the game if I never going to see it live or once in a lifetime. I'm ok with some of them being like that ( Iike branch brutal in mkx for ex), but the vast majority have to be there.

A person above used the upoercut brutality example saying that you just have to not block and hold 2....dude, if you fing reasonable in a fight don't using block you are not playing this game properly, and not being chalenged by good players. This requisite kills the brutality....you are never going to do it.

And another one said that the brutals have to be like this because they would become tedious to watch like fatalities....and all I have to say is that, in order to not get sick of a food (like pizza for ex), the requirement is never eating it....does that shit make sense to you? If I never gonna do it, see it....is a waste of time and resources by them, and a frustration for us.

And again, the problem is not the inputs....is the requirements out of our control. Don't use block? Your opponent has to wear a blue shirt and have a hairy armpit? Who the fuck thinks this is reasonable?

We have a lot of mk3 fatalities in form of brutal in the game with stupid requirements....this is frustrating.
 
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stokedAF

casual kahnage
Shao Kahn‘s are reasonable. I just unlocked the spear one and I use it a lot lol. The throw one too.
 

Jhin

"Art is worth the pain."
Baraka one's are pretty simple, so I'm happy with that. I think that the main issue here is that they're supposed to be hard to do. If you think that something should be taken out of the game just because it rarely shows up, then I see no need for keeping flawless victories as and added bonus, or flawless block as an game mechanic, since these two are hard to come by/execute. I mean, come on, man lol
 

FoughtDragon01

Ask me about my Mileena agenda.
Some of the requirements aren't just absurd, but the actual descriptions aren't very clear on what you're supposed to do at times.

Like, do any Johnny mains know how to do his 'At The Door brutal? It's already bad enough that the opponent has to fall for his parry multiple times, but even when I seemingly meet the requirements, it doesn't activate.
 
Baraka one's are pretty simple, so I'm happy with that. I think that the main issue here is that they're supposed to be hard to do. If you think that something should be taken out of the game just because it rarely shows up, then I see no need for keeping flawless victories as and added bonus, or flawless block as an game mechanic, since these two are hard to come by/execute. I mean, come on, man lol
Dude, with a lot of my respect, you quoted gameplay mechanics that were implemented in the gameplay that have nothing to do what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about finish moves....not gameplay mechs.

What I'm saying is that....your opponent does not have to be far away, wear blue shirt and have hairy armpits in order for you be able to perform a brutal. This ia burocracy for nothing.

Another example is lius parry brutal. You have to hit 3 parries in a match and the last hit has to come from another parry. Well, 4 parries in a match. You only are gonna do it if your focus is that and not winning.

Difficulty = hard inputs
Bullshit = The cosmos has to be aligned with johhny sunglasses in order to do the brutal; the dick of your opponent has to be erect as a requirement.....
 

John Grizzly

The axe that clears the forest
And another one said that the brutals have to be like this because they would become tedious to watch like fatalities....and all I have to say is that, in order to not get sick of a food (like pizza for ex), the requirement is never eating it....does that shit make sense to you? If I never gonna do it, see it....is a waste of time and resources by them, and a frustration for us.
Your point makes no sense whatsoever. You don't get sick of pizza by never having it, you simply have it now and then. You're acting like we never see Brutalities. They're rare, but far from impossible.

You want impossible requirements? Check out Eternal Champions.

I have yet to see a Brutality requirement that made me say "Well shit, I'll never see that one."
 

colby4898

Special Forces Sonya Up-player
Some are easy some are hard. Just like MKX. I would get Sonyas leg grab brutality all the time. I never once get her one where you have to use the high kamikaze in Special Forces Variation (almost useless move) to hit the opponent blocking and kill. Never gonna happen.
 
Your point makes no sense whatsoever. You don't get sick of pizza by never having it, you simply have it now and then. You're acting like we never see Brutalities. They're rare, but far from impossible.

You want impossible requirements? Check out Eternal Champions.

I have yet to see a Brutality requirement that made me say "Well shit, I'll never see that one."
I'm a 30 year old that play mk games since one, so, I don't really think that I don't know what a brutality is.
 

Cobainevermind87

Mid-match beer sipper
Some of the requirements aren't just absurd, but the actual descriptions aren't very clear on what you're supposed to do at times.

Like, do any Johnny mains know how to do his 'At The Door brutal? It's already bad enough that the opponent has to fall for his parry multiple times, but even when I seemingly meet the requirements, it doesn't activate.
It's ridiculously stupid. They have to try to hit you the THIRD time he moves his hand. Like hand ONE goes on the wall, hand two goes on the wall, he turns, hand one goes on the other wall and THIS is where the opponent has to touch you.

I also believe his 'no hollywood strings attached' is equally fucked. The f3 out of the f344 has to be the killing hit, or else it won't trigger.
 

KiD INsAnitY

Z of The Leaf -Team R.A.N
All you pp do Is bitch man!!! They range from easy to ridiculous for a reason. Some are supposed to be hard to get. That’s the literal FUCKING POINT A challenge to humiliate your opponent why are they supposed to be easy?? You could just do a fatality for that..Yall want everything handed to you man ... Bunch of fucking cry babies.