I mostly agree with what you say here. Although (at the risk of defending NRS again) I think when NRS said "there are absolutely no lootboxes" they meant pay-for-lootboxes -- which there aren't. You get in game gold and then you spend it on in game lootboxes. You never have the option of buying them with real cash. Whether that's a substantial difference from paid lootboxes or not, and thus misleading or not, will probably come down to the individual player. I don't personally mind it. But I also understand why you might.I'm mostly just annoyed that NRS explicitly said "there are no loot boxes" and that's all we have in the Krypt.
My point begins and ends here - I just want a fun and reasonable way to unlock the content in the game, namely Fatalities and Brutalities. I had them all after a few days in MKX and I never thought to myself "boy, I really miss running around the Krypt looking for shit." Still, that Krypt was fun to me because I could see my progression.
Anyway, I'm going into the Kast with an open mind. I hope we are both happy by the time it's over.
I wish I could say you're right, but there's already been precedent for this thought and it's part of what scared EA into stopping what they did with Battlefront 2.I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think a Loot Box would fit the legal definition of online gambling, so it's highly unlikely to be a legal issue.
If this game was just like MKX people wouldn’t be complaining. The grind in this game is nothing like MKX. You could earn enough Koins in one arcade tower to unlock a boatload of chests in MKX krypt. You get enough Koins in MK 11 doing the same thing to maybe unlock 1 or 2 chests, and that’s not even accounting for hearts and soul fragments, not to mention at least you could focus on what you wanted in MKX, you can’t do that in MK11.But like what did you guys do in old MK games and their Krypt? You grinded back then too, whats different today?
Just play matches and you get coins and use it in the krypt.
Them capitalizing on impatient people is inevitable. I dont necessarily agree with it but it does bother me that much, at least not to the extent of calculating how much it would cost to unlock everything lol
I disagree. I paid $100 for my game, and I don't have access to the full content. It's locked behind a wall of unfairly slowly gained in-game currency which is supported by the "you can always buy more with real money" temptation. You don't HAVE to spend money but here's something you REALLY want, but you can't get it unless you play for HOURS and do some unreasonably difficult things to get one piece of gear that only changes how you look. Or, you can BUY your CHANCE to get it nice and easy!!!So... it's day 2.
You have the OPTION to pay or you play to unlock.
You do not have to spend another dime on the game.
The real question is, would people be MORE upset if they couldn't pay to get items?
I know rightIf this game was just like MKX people wouldn’t be complaining. The grind in this game is nothing like MKX. You could earn enough Koins in one arcade tower to unlock a boatload of chests in MKX krypt. You get enough Koins in MK 11 doing the same thing to maybe unlock 1 or 2 chests, and that’s not even accounting for hearts and soul fragments, not to mention at least you could focus on what you wanted in MKX, you can’t do that in MK11.
NRS: "If you have a job, you'll probably miss your chance to even buy the skin you want, let alone dump hundreds of hours into the game to unlock it."even when you do want to just go ahead and buy a skin you have to hope and pray you pay attention enough to catch the one you want in the store.
The difference is the grind was not bad at all in MKX. You could do a tower or two (not even the crazy ones with modifiers) and earn enough currency to go to the Krypt and get a couple skins/Brutalities that you actually WANT. Have you actually played MK11 yet and tried to unlock something you WANT? Aside from the character tutorials, it's all random AND overpriced.But like what did you guys do in old MK games and their Krypt? You grinded back then too, whats different today?
Just play matches and you get coins and use it in the krypt.
Them capitalizing on impatient people is inevitable. I dont necessarily agree with it but it does bother me that much, at least not to the extent of calculating how much it would cost to unlock everything lol
I guess yea when you look at it this way. That is quite frustrating. Hopefully their fix will resolve some of these issuesThe difference is the grind was not bad at all in MKX. You could do a tower or two (not even the crazy ones with modifiers) and earn enough currency to go to the Krypt and get a couple skins/Brutalities that you actually WANT. Have you actually played MK11 yet and tried to unlock something you WANT? Aside from the character tutorials, it's all random AND overpriced.
I spent 200K and didn't get one Fatality, Brutality or skin yesterday.
No, but it does care about promoting gambling to minors and promoting online gambling in states where it's illegal.You aren't getting in on class action lawsuits. The law doesn't give a fuck about "unfair rate of ingame currency gain". Jesus.
It's not just impatient gamers who will get groped in by a system designed to train you to spend money, don't forget the young impressionable kids who will max out their mom's credit card or the people with mental health issues and gambling problems.Because you're not SUPPOSED to buy the content, you're SUPPOSED to play it to unlock it. Pay-to-unlock is specifically there as an option to make NRS money off of impatient gamers. If you're an impatient gamer who can't be bothered to play the game like the rest of us, you have no sympathy from me.
I actually did just mention people with gambling problems, because I think it does scratch that addictive itch. That said, it's a stretch at best to say it's gambling for minors. If I buy a game, and that game has a poker mini game for in game currency, is that game promoting gambling? Obviously not. It's just a scummy practice to have people buy in game currency for this sort of thing.No, but it does care about promoting gambling to minors and promoting online gambling in states where it's illegal.
There is no online gambling in MK11. There's also no promotion of gambling.No, but it does care about promoting gambling to minors and promoting online gambling in states where it's illegal.
Edit: I guess FTC is looking into, although I still think the legal risk for NRS in this case is pretty low. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/11/28/us-consumer-watchdog-investigate-video-game-loot-boxes/?utm_term=.899c4e79f67f
Please see the link that @Marlow posted above, as there is precedent for this.There is no online gambling in MK11. There's also no promotion of gambling.
Also, (not directed at you, specifically) you don't need to unlock fatalities to use them.
There's no precedent in the USA and you are referring to cases specifically with lootboxes. From what I understand, the only thing you can buy is time crystals which can buy you skins on the store, which doesn't resemble paying for RNG lootboxes at all.Please see the link that @Marlow posted above, as there is precedent for this.
What type of chests were you openingI spent 200K and didn't get one Fatality, Brutality or skin yesterday.
Unfortunately, we were led to believe that the krypt was lootbox based. We were all wrong, and it has been explained. I'm more than satisfied with their answer, so there is no need to worry about lootboxes and or legal action anymore.There's no precedent in the USA and you are referring to cases specifically with lootboxes. From what I understand, the only thing you can buy is time crystals which can buy you skins on the store, which doesn't resemble paying for RNG lootboxes at all.