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NaCl man

Welcome to Akihabara
So Knee picks jin to counter pick Jeodding and wins the winners finals and Grand finals using no other than 7 to 10 moves, lmao, that's an impressive feat.
He is the best by a long way ever since they fixed the input delay. His kaz is godlike too.

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honeybooboo

I speak truth, no lie
Hey guys how do I hit those instant full crouch moves from crouch dash... I'm trying to do I think Ravens df,3+4 teleport low that leads to knockdown. I see all the pros hit it in an instant
 

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
Do you guys think that we will ever get some of the most requested OG characters back? Harada did hint on more things are coming.
 

NaCl man

Welcome to Akihabara
Do you guys think that we will ever get some of the most requested OG characters back? Harada did hint on more things are coming.
To be honest i dont think so. I dont think the game needs them. I think having kuma and panda as 2 spots is dumb but its what we have. Apart from that i think the roster is all good(minus noctis that shit is retarded)

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JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
To be honest i dont think so. I dont think the game needs them. I think having kuma and panda as 2 spots is dumb but its what we have. Apart from that i think the roster is all good(minus noctis that shit is (soap bar in my mouth))

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YES the game needs em! Let's keep it all the way live, sir....Let's look at T7's track record thus far.

1) Out of all the DLC in the current FGs, Tekken is by far the WORST content delivered! Rollout 1 character every...what over 3 months??? And only got 2!? Eliza wasn't even part of of the season DLC pass which is even worst! You either had to pre-order or buy her separately, which is what I've done AND i got the season pass.

2) Online has been one of the worst fucking experiences ever until now. It took them almost a full year to get the online working smooth like it is now. I mean, I'm glad that its working, but thats waaaaaay too fucking long to fix some shit that should have been good from start. Which is why when I go online to find some games, I'm actually waiting a good amount of time to find opponents because ALOT of ppl stopped playing.

3) The Producer of Tekken, Harada, shown that he does not care much about his fans. This is the BIGGEST red flag. He keeps saying, "Data shows this. Data shows that." NO BITCH! YOUR FANS WANT and YOUR GAME NEEDS THIS! These are ppl who have been playing Tekken since part 1 in the arcades.....like ME! And to shit on his fans the way he does, wearing shirts saying, "Don't ask me shit" is pretty fucking foul. If he's playing the role of a villain, its been working. But counter-productive in getting ppl to stay playing the game. Not smart at all.

As hype as T7 is watching competitively, even the pro announcers don't even know if the game will be done after this year....

BUT Apparently....word on the street is some info got datamined and 8 pieces of data was found in files. Hmmmmm...*thinks*....could be the characters we were hoping for? WE NEED IT!
 

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
I've had the pc version since launch but not played it much. Tekken has always had difficulty hooking me, but I've been feeling the game the past few days for whatever reason.

I don't really understand the thing. I dug up some frame references and been squishing some buttons. I know there is some screwing, but that's about it.

I know the game can be super deep, but is there much point in be casual about it? There are just SO many games and each one takes forever to really get to know. I don't really have the time, or talent to get too serious about them.
 

JJvercetti

Warrior
I dont think they need to be added in this game, I would say at least 90% of the people begging for the missing characters dont even play them and this is me talking from experience of playing in the past 2 games.

I've had the pc version since launch but not played it much. Tekken has always had difficulty hooking me, but I've been feeling the game the past few days for whatever reason.

I don't really understand the thing. I dug up some frame references and been squishing some buttons. I know there is some screwing, but that's about it.

I know the game can be super deep, but is there much point in be casual about it? There are just SO many games and each one takes forever to really get to know. I don't really have the time, or talent to get too serious about them.
If you want to play the game seriously or casually, play it. I am sure that there are players of all levels still playing.
 

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
I dont think they need to be added in this game, I would say at least 90% of the people begging for the missing characters dont even play them and this is me talking from experience of playing in the past 2 games.


If you want to play the game seriously or casually, play it. I am sure that there are players of all levels still playing.
There are, but its waaaaay less than before. This game takes ALOOOONG time to master like years. Does the casual gamer nowadays have time to get the core mechanics down? I highly doubt it. I mean, I've played Tekken since the beginning and i have yet to master that shit. Content keeps casuals, which keeps the scene competitive online, which keeps life into the game. Without new content such as characters, ppl will move on to the next. So even though people don't play those characters, they're still very needed.
 

JJvercetti

Warrior
There are, but its waaaaay less than before.
The amount of players you face will depend on your rank, most people just play to late blue, early green ranks and a lot of players are not even in the dan ranks. (On my other account I am still at beginner rank and get matches way more than my main account which is between 30secs and 1 min)
There are, but its waaaaay less than before. This game takes ALOOOONG time to master like years. Does the casual gamer nowadays have time to get the core mechanics down? I highly doubt it. I mean, I've played Tekken since the beginning and i have yet to master that shit. Content keeps casuals, which keeps the scene competitive online, which keeps life into the game. Without new content such as characters, ppl will move on to the next. So even though people don't play those characters, they're still very needed.
It also depends on the type of content that is provided. Characters are ok for the short term, people are still going to be in the same position in whether they keep playing the game or not. It does not help that the game did not provide any sort of tutorial for the main mechanics of the game which in my opinion would keep the playerbase longer as they would at least know what opponents or they themselves are doing.
 

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
The amount of players you face will depend on your rank, most people just play to late blue, early green ranks and a lot of players are not even in the dan ranks. (On my other account I am still at beginner rank and get matches way more than my main account which is between 30secs and 1 min)

It also depends on the type of content that is provided. Characters are ok for the short term, people are still going to be in the same position in whether they keep playing the game or not. It does not help that the game did not provide any sort of tutorial for the main mechanics of the game which in my opinion would keep the playerbase longer as they would at least know what opponents or they themselves are doing.

I KNOOOOOOOW! I fluctuate between yellow and green ranks so I know the traffic game, sir :) The difference is when I played earlier to now, is that NOW i still have a bit of a longer time to find opponents than i did before where it was instant.

I agree that there should have been a tutorial since the current generation of FGs implement that in their games for the casual audience, but what does that fall under ?Question mark? CONTENT! It doesn't matter if the content lasts a certain amount of time, just give the game more shit to do. Characters make ppl want to play the game more to learn the matchup even if they don't main the character. It's always good to lab what moves the characters can do. T7 is bare as fuck. Point Blank Period. You can be content with it, and thats fine. But from an OG player who played since the beginning, I'll be DAMNED if im going to pay more money for a T7 than any other game, and get less content than any other Tekken game. That's the point I'm trying to make. SO Whoop there it is!

GIVE US CONTENT! That Free DLC costume shit is NOT enough!
 

DanCock

Cock Master!!
I KNOOOOOOOW! I fluctuate between yellow and green ranks so I know the traffic game, sir :) The difference is when I played earlier to now, is that NOW i still have a bit of a longer time to find opponents than i did before where it was instant.

I agree that there should have been a tutorial since the current generation of FGs implement that in their games for the casual audience, but what does that fall under ?Question mark? CONTENT! It doesn't matter if the content lasts a certain amount of time, just give the game more shit to do. Characters make ppl want to play the game more to learn the matchup even if they don't main the character. It's always good to lab what moves the characters can do. T7 is bare as fuck. Point Blank Period. You can be content with it, and thats fine. But from an OG player who played since the beginning, I'll be DAMNED if im going to pay more money for a T7 than any other game, and get less content than any other Tekken game. That's the point I'm trying to make. SO Whoop there it is!

GIVE US CONTENT! That Free DLC costume shit is NOT enough!
i have asked you to play many times, sent invites and such. id love to play if you are looking to play like you say.

also i have had zero problems finding matches online ever.
 

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
i have asked you to play many times, sent invites and such. id love to play if you are looking to play like you say.

also i have had zero problems finding matches online ever.
You have??? When was the last time u sent me an invite? Cuz sometimes i leave my PS4 on and fall asleep watching Youtubes vids lol.

As far as playing....ummmm...Im on and off on this game, so wouldn't say necessarily say "love" playing...probably more like playing..... when DBFZ gets boring and currently, im trying out the DLC of that game still. But if im down and see you online, i shall hit you up sir ;)
 

DanCock

Cock Master!!
You have??? When was the last time u sent me an invite? Cuz sometimes i leave my PS4 on and fall asleep watching Youtubes vids lol.

As far as playing....ummmm...Im on and off on this game, so wouldn't say necessarily say "love" playing...probably more like playing..... when DBFZ gets boring and currently, im trying out the DLC of that game still. But if im down and see you online, i shall hit you up sir ;)
well if it gets boring, ill be online for a while today. im just looking for friendly faces to play.
 

NaCl man

Welcome to Akihabara
YES the game needs em! Let's keep it all the way live, sir....Let's look at T7's track record thus far.

1) Out of all the DLC in the current FGs, Tekken is by far the WORST content delivered! Rollout 1 character every...what over 3 months??? And only got 2!? Eliza wasn't even part of of the season DLC pass which is even worst! You either had to pre-order or buy her separately, which is what I've done AND i got the season pass.

2) Online has been one of the worst fucking experiences ever until now. It took them almost a full year to get the online working smooth like it is now. I mean, I'm glad that its working, but thats waaaaaay too fucking long to fix some shit that should have been good from start. Which is why when I go online to find some games, I'm actually waiting a good amount of time to find opponents because ALOT of ppl stopped playing.

3) The Producer of Tekken, Harada, shown that he does not care much about his fans. This is the BIGGEST red flag. He keeps saying, "Data shows this. Data shows that." NO BITCH! YOUR FANS WANT and YOUR GAME NEEDS THIS! These are ppl who have been playing Tekken since part 1 in the arcades.....like ME! And to shit on his fans the way he does, wearing shirts saying, "Don't ask me shit" is pretty fucking foul. If he's playing the role of a villain, its been working. But counter-productive in getting ppl to stay playing the game. Not smart at all.

As hype as T7 is watching competitively, even the pro announcers don't even know if the game will be done after this year....

BUT Apparently....word on the street is some info got datamined and 8 pieces of data was found in files. Hmmmmm...*thinks*....could be the characters we were hoping for? WE NEED IT!
Remember the game has been out since 2015. There have been alot of characters and updates since then. Console release is usually the final product. The online has been good for me since the input delay fix the first time.

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Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
I dont think they need to be added in this game, I would say at least 90% of the people begging for the missing characters dont even play them and this is me talking from experience of playing in the past 2 games.


If you want to play the game seriously or casually, play it. I am sure that there are players of all levels still playing.
Is there a preferred platform at this point? I know the PC version was initially considered superior, but I've heard of CP causing stuttering (which I'm not personally noticing), and that the PS4 version is much improved.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Is there a preferred platform at this point? I know the PC version was initially considered superior, but I've heard of CP causing stuttering (which I'm not personally noticing), and that the PS4 version is much improved.
Even though they have improved the PS4 version, this patch isn't at the PC level. Better play the PC version. The stuttering is most likely from the PC options that are messing it. Better work this out to fix it.
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Even though they have improved the PS4 version, this patch isn't at the PC level. Better play the PC version. The stuttering is most likely from the PC options that are messing it. Better work this out to fix it.
Tbh, we used to play mk9 and sf4 which input lag used to be similar, ps4 lowering to 4.5.

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Smoke_Of_Finland

Believe in the hop kick
Is there a preferred platform at this point? I know the PC version was initially considered superior, but I've heard of CP causing stuttering (which I'm not personally noticing), and that the PS4 version is much improved.
The stuttering you refer to may be caused by people turning off V-sync to further reduce input lag on PC and the "correct" term for it would be screen tearing. PC version looks better and loading times are way shorter, even with an old i3 CPU and 1050 TI GPU (my rig is new, but budget/low end tier) I had to drop my settings from maxed to near max because jungle stage combined with Kuma's fur caused the game to drop from steady 60fps to 50 lol.
 

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
The stuttering you refer to may be caused by people turning off V-sync to further reduce input lag on PC and the "correct" term for it would be screen tearing. PC version looks better and loading times are way shorter, even with an old i3 CPU and 1050 TI GPU (my rig is new, but budget/low end tier) I had to drop my settings from maxed to near max because jungle stage combined with Kuma's fur caused the game to drop from steady 60fps to 50 lol.
I was specifically referring to this: http://shoryuken.com/2018/04/16/tekken-7s-performance-issues-on-pc-are-due-to-drm-software/

Not sure what came of that, but seems to run really well for me. I do love my short load times. I did have to fiddle with stuff to deal with the Kuma issue. I've never played online, so I haven't had to deal with any second system issues yet. CPU is driving me a little crazy though.

So far it feels like an odd mix of some of the most blatant input reading, I've seen and flat being stupid about other things. Like having zero awareness of projectiles at all (playing Geese btw) and eating 100% of them, or letting you armor constantly because it always wants to counter attack with input reads.

I've been playing it all week, and enjoying myself so far. I really like having a 3D game in the mix, and it's kind of the only thing on the menu right now until SC6 and DOA6 roll around - both of which I'm anxious for. Part of me wonders if I would be better off preping for DOA6 with more DOA5, but I'm betting my original FG Bae Pai Chan won't be in. I'm finally enjoying Tekken, so I probably just roll with it for a little while.