Dragon Ball FighterZ Discussion Thread (Game)

[EntropicByDesign]

So the nerf hammer started hitting SSB Veggie, SSJ Veggie, A. Gohan and Kid Buu,

Looking at Beerus, Piccolo and Hit.

Beerus' issues with his orbs have been fixed, while they seemed to have buffed his 2M. Gotta test this out.

Hit's nothing to worry about. If only they could give all of his supers less recovery, so that I could cancel them one power after another (1 to 3, or 1 to 1 to 3). Hit's goddamn fast. I could notice the recovery frames before I attack after the power, while the opponent has yet to touch the ground.

Piccolo's Assist OKI seems to be fixed, but I didn't understand what did they mean. Seems like they fixed this unblockable OKI. Gotta test this out.

They have yet to fix A21's infinity glitch and Broly and Goku Black's bug, or did I read wrong?

About the other characters, I dunno what to make out of them. Yours call.

Kid's nerf doesn't equate to much. He still has his mix, his damage everywhere else. His.. I'm not gonna a list it all. His Kid-ness is still in full effect lol.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

That's not his only plan though.. he can still bully the SHIT out of you. He can still combo into and assist cover out of, DD..

Some people will drop him sure, but he's still one of the best characters in the game.

Edit: Sultani said it better than I did.

FUCK 16! HE CAN LICK MY ASSHOOOOOOOOOOOLE!

....too much coffee today....

 

[Sultani]

I honestly dont think many people will drop 16. His options after DD are still gonna put him right in your face. Maybe less point 16s so that he always has the meter to hkd.. but i honestly didnt see many if him as it was anyway.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

I honestly dont think many people will drop 16. His options after DD are still gonna put him right in your face. Maybe less point 16s so that he always has the meter to hkd.. but i honestly didnt see many if him as it was anyway.

All i know is this. Uncle JBeezY is probably one of the VERY FEW ppl that have Frieza as the Z-Union rep, so with these buffs he's receiving, alot more ppl will come on board. Giggidy

 

[EntropicByDesign]

This patch wasn't what I was expecting. But I mean, my tea

FUCK 16! HE CAN LICK MY ASSHOOOOOOOOOOOLE!

....too much coffee today....

Haha. I like the character, a lot actually, so I'm happy to see the hkd go, and him still remain (imo) very strong/viable.

 

[Sultani]

Haha. Oh man. The more i think about this
.. depending on the range of certain versions of dynamite driver and how the ground recovery looks... they may have tried to nerf 16 but instead made him ridiculously broken. We'll see

 

[ShArp]

Kid is basically the same in every way. And that's a good thing cuz of all top tiers I think he was(is) one of the best balanced characters.

As for Broly - can anyone explain whether he got buffed or nerfed compared to what he is now? All I see about him is tons of "fixed" stuff

 

[JBeezYBabY]

Kid is basically the same in every way. And that's a good thing cuz of all top tiers I think he was(is) one of the best balanced characters.

As for Broly - can anyone explain whether he got buffed or nerfed compared to what he is now? All I see about him is tons of "fixed" stuff

Maaaaan i have no idea about his notes. They really do look like just visual fixes basically. Im looking at videos of ppl going over the notes as we speak.

 

[Invincible Salads]

so is adult gohan's pressure dead? how does it work now if its less advantageous on block?

 

[JBeezYBabY]

so is adult gohan's pressure dead? how does it work now if its less advantageous on block?

He gets punished like the rest of us lol He's normalized now. And from what i heard his low light attack will act like the rest of the cast's low light attacks. Which means, his combos will scale more because he did massive damage in one damn combo.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

My thing is that Gotenks had one of the worst assist in the game, until recently discovered his tech. But after this patch, it will for certain be probably the worst.....damnit....how you gonna fuck up an assist that wasn't even really great in the first place? Ugh...

 

[Sultani]

And Kid.

This is your shortest post ever. Lol.

The notes about gohans block stun frame advantage are pretty vague. Can he not chain jL anymore? Can he still do it but there's a gap? Who knows.

Anyway. Yeah. You heard it here first. This change makes 16 the best character in the game.

Think about how many characters have combos that aren't hkd but they can run up and continue blockstrings if you ground recover after a combo.

16 has that now but it starts from point blank range while he's already grounded, plus he has the option to dragon rush you or just grab you and make you guess again. At the very least, ground recovery from DD essentially guarantees you are eating pressure again. Wanna delay the wakeup? Great. You just made it an hkd and you're getting mixed just the same.

Im still going to end everything with DD. Then call assists and mixup with 5H, grabs, dragon rushes, iad, etc etc.

 

[Juggs]

What the hell? They hit A.Gohan super hard, but Kid Buu and Cell go pretty much untouched? Like I get the A.Gohan nerfs, but Cell and Kid Buu not being hit is really stupid imo. What I’m saying is, if A.Gohan got hit like he did, not hitting them just as hard make zero since. They are just as good, personally I think Cell is better.

Oh well, time to drop A.Gohan for Vegito and Zamasu anyway.

 

[neveradestroyer]

They got rid of Android 21 T.O.D. bye bye the times where You could do a 5000 combo without sparking from her 5s. and bye Bye Ginyu fun T.O.D. . I understand 21 case. But Ginyu needed that so He would be played at tournaments... Poor Ginyu.

 

[Sultani]

What the hell? They hit A.Gohan super hard, but Kid Buu and Cell go pretty much untouched? Like I get the A.Gohan nerfs, but Cell and Kid Buu not being hit is really stupid imo. What I’m saying is, if A.Gohan got hit like he did, not hitting them just as hard make zero since. They are just as good, personally I think Cell is better.

Oh well, time to drop A.Gohan for Vegito and Zamasu anyway.

Cell, bardock, and kid buu being left alone considering what they did to gohan is unbelievable.

Its almost like they started working on certain things a long time ago, like before bardock and broly were released.

Honestly doesnt it seem like a patch based on what was identified like 2 months ago or more?

 

[Invincible Salads]

well i certainly hope kid buu isnt touched, i like that character, and what exactly does this mean for gohan? does it mean he can't pressure anymore?

 

[xQUANTUMx]

I’m salty....I shouldn’t be too much, But I still am. Could be worse though

Edit: I actually have no fucking clue what my chars notes mean lol. Modified can go either way. If they buffed his damage and changed his command grabs then that’s actually interesting...

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[EntropicByDesign]

Not directed at anyone in particular but..

I love listening to the people talking about jumping ship from AG when he's still going to be insanely strong.. when most of these people whinged pathetically for months about "how they just love him as a character and it's got nothing to do with how strong he is".. but are.now moving on because he's only going to be top 10 (or better) instead of tied for that "too broken to be in a tier list" category.

If you play a broken character because he's broken and you wanna win? Fuckin-A. More.power to you. I respect the honesty. But just fucking admit it. Jesus.

 

[villainous monk]

I honestly wish they improved the net code. It's just so terrible compared to Tekken, KI and I2.

I think they missed the mark on improvements on defense too.

 

[Sultani]

Lol right? "Hey guiz everyone thinks offense is too oppressive and defense kinda sucks even if you defend correctly for 30 seconds, and everyone wants more defensive options? Cool. We gonna make defense harder. Cuz arcsys."

 

[Juggs]

Not directed at anyone in particular but..

I love listening to the people talking about jumping ship from AG when he's still going to be insanely strong.. when most of these people whinged pathetically for months about "how they just love him as a character and it's got nothing to do with how strong he is".. but are.now moving on because he's only going to be top 10 (or better) instead of tied for that "too broken to be in a tier list" category.

If you play a broken character because he's broken and you wanna win? Fuckin-A. More.power to you. I respect the honesty. But just fucking admit it. Jesus.

It’s more out of spite than anything. I love A.Gohan, his gameplay is by far the most fun for me. But since they want to nerf him and not nerf other characters that are just as strong, fuck them.

 

[God Confirm]

It’s more out of spite than anything. I love A.Gohan, his gameplay is by far the most fun for me. But since they want to nerf him and not nerf other characters that are just as strong, fuck them.

thats ridiculous. If you loved AG his gameplay is almost unchanged, and the majority of the game didn't get the changes it needed.

Either quit playing the game entirely, keep playing AG, or just admit you were only playing him to tier whore.

 

[God Confirm]

Also people getting salty about an Arc Sys patch is kinda funny.

Don't know how many times I've seen it said not to expect anything, and that their patching logic will likely be extremely unpredictable.

Last patch on GG they nerfed bottom a 3 character and completely destroyed him, while buffing top 3 characters.

Getting mad because they nerfed some of the top tiers, but not ALL AT ONCE is just funny. This is a better patch than you should have expected from Arc Sys. If this was going to be a problem for anyone, you shouldn't have commit to this game months ago when ArcSys players told you that this was going to happen.

 

[Sultani]

Also people getting salty about an Arc Sys patch is kinda funny.

Don't know how many times I've seen it said not to expect anything, and that their patching logic will likely be extremely unpredictable.

Last patch on GG they nerfed bottom a 3 character and completely destroyed him, while buffing top 3 characters.

Getting mad because they nerfed some of the top tiers, but not ALL AT ONCE is just funny. This is a better patch than you should have expected from Arc Sys. If this was going to be a problem for anyone, you shouldn't have commit to this game months ago when ArcSys players told you that this was going to happen.

Buff raven

 

[God Confirm]

Buff raven

Thank god that didn't happen