Dragon Ball FighterZ Discussion Thread (Game)

[ProudDisciple]

I'm having trouble with the lm jc lm combo I see people do all the time. I can do it easy with characters like Vegeta and Goku but not for nappa or piccolo.

What platform have you been playing on? I miss the KI matches that we used to have.

 

[God Confirm]

I did test it, but my eyes are stupid. It said “4365” and then “4395”. My dyslexia I guess said “yup, those are the same numbers”. Lol


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lol that makes sense

remember it can affect multiple points off a combo


if your combo is j.LM2H, chase, j.LM2H dj.LM2H

and you swap that M to L 3 times, it can have a notable impact on damage output


at the same time its not a hard rule, and some combos will get exactly the same damage no matter which way you do it,
or some combos allow you to get more hits if you use L to M because of autocombo



the first jump has the most impact, some characters are better skipping the first j.L entirely. If Gotenks does that his BnB goes up to 4185. That's a combined total of over 300 extra damage just by skipping the first j.L, and then putting j.M before L for the rest of the combo. That's big numbers for something that cost you anything, it doesn't even make execution harder.

 

[freerf245]

Didn't we play KI together a while back?
I mainly play on PSN but I also have the game on XB.
I'd like to get some matches in when possible.

Yea we did. I can play most the time when I'm on just message me.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

I always wonder if the people who say this played guilty gear. This game is sorta like that, but without about 20 layers. GG was undeniably deeper. It was also a MUCH better game imo. DBFZ looks awesome, but it's a gimped anime game honestly. GG had more movement options, more defensive options, basically just more.

Also yeah 16 is ridiculous good. Multiple tick throw setups into hkd which lead to pretty strong oki, strong pressure with the right assists, big damage, etc.

I have played GG, and it's an amazing game and in many ways superior. BB:CF is, based on the same criteria, likely superior to GG.

..but I don't see what that has to do with anything I said.

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[JBeezYBabY]

lol that makes sense

remember it can affect multiple points off a combo


if your combo is j.LM2H, chase, j.LM2H dj.LM2H

and you swap that M to L 3 times, it can have a notable impact on damage output


at the same time its not a hard rule, and some combos will get exactly the same damage no matter which way you do it,
or some combos allow you to get more hits if you use L to M because of autocombo



the first jump has the most impact, some characters are better skipping the first j.L entirely. If Gotenks does that his BnB goes up to 4185. That's a combined total of over 300 extra damage just by skipping the first j.L, and then putting j.M before L for the rest of the combo. That's big numbers for something that cost you anything, it doesn't even make execution harder.

Well i know Kid Buu will not work that rule....well....actually....i guess the high M can cancel to L before the 2nd hit. BACK TO THE LAB ONCE I GET HOME!

 

[ProudDisciple]

Yea we did. I can play most the time when I'm on just message me.

When you are on, message me on TYM so we can play?

I start work at 3pm and I'm typically available after Midnight on weekdays.

 

[TrulyAmiracle]

For oki best thing i found after hard knockdown in the corner, backdash iad j.ML with most characters (others it's better to j.LL or j.H) is the best thing you can do. You're on top of them if they delay and it catches all the other techs.
Learn this if you don't want to eat up tech into superdash everytime you try to oki someone.
There's an OS you can put in there to make it better as well but that's for another time.

Midscreen i generally dash up then airdash with assist cover into whatever.

Im on Xbox if anyone ever wants to play.

Main team: Trunks, Tien, Gotenks
Secondary: SSGSS Vegeta, Piccolo, Goku
Team fabulous: Ginyu, Nappa, Majin buu, all color 8

Eyy you got any Gotenks and Tien stuff? i found some slick shit with that shell recently.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

I think it's due to the fact that it doesn't have all those layers that people like it, you don't feel overwhelmed with things like having to look out for a separate meter for each character. GG's cieling is way too high for people not familiar with anime games or not willing to go the extra mile to keep up with it. DBFZ is the middle ground where it's simple enough to pick up quickly and can actually keep up with the tech and the crazy stuff that can be done in the game later on as well.
Being a hybrid of arcsys stuff and Marvel which most of the fgc has dabbled with helps too, gives it a bit of familiarity.

I'm a fan of all Arcsys games except GG, I clicked with all of them except the original. i even played the Hokuto no Ken game for longer than GG lol.

This.

BB:CF is more difficult and has more depth than GG too, but that doesn't devalue GG.

It's also sometimes not matter of being unwilling to go that extra mile, but being unable. A lot of people have time constraints that make the intense time investment simply impossible. I don't expect GG to say "oh John's busy this week, let's make combos easier and less character specific", but having a game that DOES by its design, respect the often limited time of it's older audience is a huge deal and places that game well above a lot of others in my priority of shit to play list.

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[JBeezYBabY]

NOTE TO SELF. Never EEEEEEVER vanish attack when Gotenks is doing that spin bottle top move. You will always get hit! GRIMEY!

 

[ABACABB]

Story mode is so boring and repetitive in this game ....

I just wasted few hours , listen to this : I played final android arc from chapter 7 to end and when I beat her there was some error and game closed . Ofc none of it was saved ..... Im so mad right now .

 

[ProudDisciple]

Will you guys please give me some feed back on my gameplay.

 

[Rip Torn]

Piccolo is odd coz you kinda need different combos for midscreen and corner.

Midscreen my combo is 2m5m superjump forward LM (2 hits) L2H SD LL2H j LL (2 hits) into 214H for hard knockdown or LLL 214M if you get to the corner for meterless hard knockdown.

In the corner you do 2M5M sj LM (2 hits) LH2H SD MH2H j LLL 214M
You can combo hellzone super after into 2S 2S into beam cannon for 6.2k for 2 bars solo.

Midscreen version you can do hellzone for oki and if you get a combo it'll be mad damage, or you can do special beam or lvl3 if you just want guaranteed damage.

There's probably slightly better combos but these are my combos, adjusted after stealing tech from twitter as there's different versions all around with extra hits or assist additions.

Nappa afaik needs assists or vanish to get his bigger combos going but don't take my word for it as I don't play, just typing what I've seen in videos from other players.
iirc with assist you can do stuff like 2M5M j.MH (assist) land 5M j.LM j.LLL or after the assist you go for 2H SD into air basic stuff.
Other route is vanish after air LMH into air 2H into 236 special > ender.

Midscreen with Piccolo I do 2M5M JC (why do you superjump?) LML2H SD LML2H JC LL(2 hits) 214L/H

Corner I do 2M5M JC MH2H SD MH2H JC LLL214M

Pretty sure the midscreen combo works on all characters.
The corner combo might drop on small characters but it should work if you do 2M5M JC M(2hits)2H etc..

 

[Sultani]

Img just had a rad comeback. Terrible match with 7 delay frames. But lol the comeback

 

[Sultani]

I have played GG, and it's an amazing game and in many ways superior. BB:CF is, based on the same criteria, likely superior to GG.

..but I don't see what that has to do with anything I said.

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Because i was disagreeing about how great you thought dbfz is. Its fun but its not really all that great

 

[God Confirm]

I have played GG, and it's an amazing game and in many ways superior. BB:CF is, based on the same criteria, likely superior to GG.

BB CF is better than GG? What makes you say that?

 

[Sultani]

BB CF is better than GG? What makes you say that?

I think he just meant using the argument that gg is better because of how much deeper it is, youd have to say that about bb compared to gg, too

 

[God Confirm]

I think he just meant using the argument that gg is better because of how much deeper it is, youd have to say that about bb compared to gg, too

i thought BB has less depth and mechanics than GG tho

 

[Sultani]

i thought BB has less depth and mechanics than GG tho

I thought so too. But i just took his word for it since i never played bb.

Also fun fact. You can get to orange / red by picking kid buu and goku black and then mashing buttons in 5 delay frames.

I just put ny controller down now if i see that team. Its not even fun.

 

[The Slaj Jazz]

What platform have you been playing on? I miss the KI matches that we used to have.

I ended up buying it for ps4 because of my irl friend but I might get it on pc and xbox as well

 

[Juggs]

So I was just playing against @freerf245, who is a really good player. Anyway, I was getting that same thing where I was getting hit on wakeup with his standing L’s and I was holding back. I looked at the footage and I am holding back. Idk why this is happening, but I’ll record it an upload it when I get the chance.

But GGs to freerf, very intense games, the best TYM player I’ve faced so far. Also played @Superman64 aka TheRealMil randomly in a casual set, so ggs to him as well.

 

[ProudDisciple]

I ended up buying it for ps4 because of my irl friend but I might get it on pc and xbox as well

I mainly play on PSN, so maybe we can find time to play soon.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

WTF!?!? PS4 SERVERS ARE DOWN DUE TO MAINTENANCE! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK MY LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE!

 

[villainous monk]

You can’t upload to YouTube from the XB1 anymore. You have to use a 3rd party service on the internet independent of the XB1.

It's been like that for ages. I know I would've loved to upload tons of clips from mk9 days and KI. Lots of games and Xbox now is... Let's be serious. It lacks a competitive community. Serious backing from Microsoft and it's studios for exclusive content and games. (Looking at you Crapcrum, Akria & the elusive Namcopps) and any interest in any other titles besides Minecraft and shooters.

Garbage. It's trash and the flames burn eternal. Even the recent players option which is fucking KEY to getting a salty runback by simply going into that menu has been broken for so long I think even they have ZERO idea how to fix it.

When that XL VCR/DVD player called Xbox One released. By then all majour competitive sway went to Sony. Eaiser to use. More people supporting the games we play. Smaller unit and like you said. Instant access to YouTube. Perfect.

This DVR shit on Xbox then load it to OneDrive then to YouTube or how ever it's done is ridiculously long & stupid.

I'd still like a few sets before you go though.

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[freerf245]

For oki best thing i found after hard knockdown in the corner, backdash iad j.ML with most characters (others it's better to j.LL or j.H) is the best thing you can do. You're on top of them if they delay and it catches all the other techs.
Learn this if you don't want to eat up tech into superdash everytime you try to oki someone.
There's an OS you can put in there to make it better as well but that's for another time.

Midscreen i generally dash up then airdash with assist cover into whatever.




Eyy you got any Gotenks and Tien stuff? i found some slick shit with that shell recently.

Tien can get a full combo for no bar midscreen after the second hit of volleyball fist using Gotenks assist, but it's a tight link. Tien's Dodon Ray compliments Gotenks pressure real well because Gotenks 2H converts real easily off it. Galactic Doughnut also allows Tien to convert meterlessly full screen off of telekinesis, but you probably won't ever land that so who cares.

 

[Juggs]

It's been like that for ages. I know I would've loved to upload tons of clips from mk9 days and KI. Lots of games and Xbox now is... Let's be serious. It lacks a competitive community. Serious backing from Microsoft and it's studios for exclusive content and games. (Looking at you Crapcrum, Akria & the elusive Namcopps) and any interest in any other titles besides Minecraft and shooters.

Garbage. It's trash and the flames burn eternal. Even the recent players option which is fucking KEY to getting a salty runback by simply going into that menu has been broken for so long I think even they have ZERO idea how to fix it.

When that XL VCR/DVD player called Xbox One released. By then all majour competitive sway went to Sony. Eaiser to use. More people supporting the games we play. Smaller unit and like you said. Instant access to YouTube. Perfect.

This DVR shit on Xbox then load it to OneDrive then to YouTube or how ever it's done is ridiculously long & stupid.

I'd still like a few sets before you go though.

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Nope, that just changed last year. Before there was an upload button on the youtube app on XB1. Back when For Honor came out last year, I was uploading to youtube as normal. They changed it near the end of the year last year for some reason. Now you need a 3rd party service, I use xboxdvr.com.


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