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JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
Well fun is subjective, you can’t nerf based off fun. I for example hate fighting the Flash and Black Canary most even though my characters do well agaisnt them, and they are well balanced, I hate how it feels to get mixed. It’s not fun, I can’t argue about that or tel you to have fun with Batman, o just done agree with Batman being legit broken.
I suppose that's legit, but those characters are balanced, where Batman CLEARLY is not. Thats the major issue that kills the fun for mostly everybody. But i feel what u saying.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
I suppose that's legit, but those characters are balanced, where Batman CLEARLY is not. Thats the major issue that kills the fun for mostly everybody. But i feel what u saying.
Alright, another example would be Deadshot. I actually like playing Deadshot, but some people find him boring.
 

SaucyD0ge

Worst european batman
I suppose that's legit, but those characters are balanced, where Batman CLEARLY is not. Thats the major issue that kills the fun for mostly everybody. But i feel what u saying.
So Deadshot&Supergirl are better balanced and all Batmains should pick up Deadshot&Supergirl?
 

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
I mean, you don’t like Batman...since he is the only character that truely annoys you...I though that you wouldn’t mind MORE FUN characters to play against.
PAUSE! I did not say that. Take YOUR words out my mouth, sir! Of course others annoy me, but we talkin' about BrokeBat.
 

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
Nerf Batman because Forever King and I play him well? :DOGE
Well well well LOOK who we have here! ;)

PAUSE! No No No, sir. There's a complete polar difference between the way Forever King and you played.

Forever King is a Batman main first off, so it was expected. Second, he did the un-expected and he thrived in situations where where the odds were against him to win. He outplayed, he outsmarted, and he thrived! It was exciting to watch and even people who hated Batman was even on his side! I was!

YOU on the other hand just picked him up all of a sudden ?Question mark? ...B23, slide with bats, slide with no bats, B23, until the bats come back. repeat, blah blah blah the typical exploits of Batman, right. You exploited that to the T and it was cheap as hell. I guess that's what you're known for ...and that's fine But hey...I'm not mad you did what you had to do to win. You didn't make the game, you just simply hustled.
 

Carl-L

Sub-Zero hater.
He outplayed, he outsmarted, and he thrived!

YOU on the other hand just picked him up all of a sudden ?Question mark? ...B23, slide with bats, slide with no bats, B23, until the bats come back. repeat, blah blah blah the typical exploits of Batman, right. You exploited that to the T and it was cheap as hell. I guess that's what you're known for ...and that's fine But hey...I'm not mad you did what you had to do to win. You didn't make the game, you just simply hustled.
Foxy qualified though, so surely you would agree that he also outplayed and outsmarted all his competition? Including the games where he used Batman?
 

Kotal_Wannabe

AKA AndyPandy
He's not even gonna get hit hard IMO but his vortex at least needs to go, a + on block vortex is just straight up stupid.
And his bats charging while they are active should go as well, I would even be fine if they buffed his F2 (or whatever input the headbutt advancing mid is) to being faster or having slightly more range so he can playbetter without bats but his trait needs changes for sure.

With that said, those changes I would like to see only if the other top 5 characters get nerfs as well but all of them have pretty much guaranteed nerfs atthis point
All we ask for is no ridiculous trait. it's stupid dumb how a trait as powerful as mechanical bats charges while active. NRS need to fix this crap, makes em look bad compared with other fighters, no wonder no one takes inj2 seriously. How can they when they don't address this shit but keep characters like swampass, joker and even captain cold low af. makes no sense, they wanna pander to the casual commmunity... I get it, but they're a laughing stock, so much so that no one takes inj2 seriously, you only gotta look at the views on twitch to see something is going seriously wrong. The characters in this game are fun and hype af, the character balace lets it way down. No way 4 or 5 characters should dominate, it's bad for the game, bad for morale, bad for character loyalists. sort it out NRS, you're the laughing stock of the FGC right now, and you know it. Stop catering to casuals, ur game is already old enough that casuals will skip past it, it's now time to be serious.
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
Well well well LOOK who we have here! ;)

PAUSE! No No No, sir. There's a complete polar difference between the way Forever King and you played.

Forever King is a Batman main first off, so it was expected. Second, he did the un-expected and he thrived in situations where where the odds were against him to win. He outplayed, he outsmarted, and he thrived! It was exciting to watch and even people who hated Batman was even on his side! I was!

YOU on the other hand just picked him up all of a sudden ?Question mark? ...B23, slide with bats, slide with no bats, B23, until the bats come back. repeat, blah blah blah the typical exploits of Batman, right. You exploited that to the T and it was cheap as hell. I guess that's what you're known for ...and that's fine But hey...I'm not mad you did what you had to do to win. You didn't make the game, you just simply hustled.
B23 is the anti cat woman string, King always loses to Semiij with Batman sooooo....

Yeah he's a batman main true, but that doesn't mean anything.

You speak like injustice is this game of immense depth, when it isn't, it's quite straight forward. If I could learn in a month how to play Batman as good as King, does hat mean the games simple or not?

Is it not cheap when Sonic picks Captain Cold on Catwoman, is it not cheap when someone picks Catwoman on Deadshot? Is it not cheap when someone picks Deadshot on Harley etc etc

And if you wanna go that far, my batmans actually more optimal than Kings, hold that.

Literally all you just did was compare strategy, my strategy works don't it?
 
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Kotal_Wannabe

AKA AndyPandy
Also, not to take from ur success, I'd do the exact same thing in your position, no doubt, I think ur great @A F0xy Grampa . never change man. play to win as u always do. I have a big problem with NRS on the other hand, thy make this game stupid to the point that no one is interested anymore. I still am interested, but most people have flown the nest already, and that's 100% on NRS
 

PetulantWaste

Apprentice
Batman's not that bad. Like, why is he new flavor of the month? Batman has literally no tournament wins (yet). Damn if Batman is getting that problematic then pick Green Arrow or something. I don't see it guys. In fact, until recently only Foreverking was putting in work with Batman. Other people (think Tekken vs Hayatei) try him out and promptly get washed by other characters.

Honestly people complaining about him now I'm like 85% sure is because Foreverking beat Sonicfox. If he had lost (like he has every time before this) then no one would even mention it.
 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
I'm pretty sure Batman v Cheetah is supposed to be way better now isn't it? I dunno. I swear reading that cheetah players were figuring it out. Pointless talking point I know, just saying.

I am protective of Batman because I like him and enjoy watching him.. but the + on vortex is a little nutso given everything else he can do. I think he needs to KEEP THE VORTEX, but it should be tweaked. Keep it safe, absolutely, but + is a wee bit much lol.

I also think bats should keep charging while one is out - just way the fuck slower. This let's him do everything he does now but spreads it out a little and opens up round some to the opponent.

If you kill his vortex and kill his bat recharge, you are just going to see Atrocitus Batman's. They will spend huge parts of the match huddled up, doing nothing, running away and just waiting on bats, for a little flurry of activity that can be totally stopped right away, then back to huddled waiting. You may hate Batman and want him to be weak - but that kinda shit is bad for the game. I keep saying it, characters need to be dynamic and interesting.

If Batman loses trait recharge while one is active then he at least needs the ability to choose the number of bats he calls at a time, so if he builds up more than one, he can choose to only call one at a time.

Just VERY LIGHTLY nerf him - and make the mid tier and low tier better. Pull the game up, not down.
 

Kotal_Wannabe

AKA AndyPandy
I'm pretty sure Batman v Cheetah is supposed to be way better now isn't it? I dunno. I swear reading that cheetah players were figuring it out. Pointless talking point I know, just saying.

I am protective of Batman because I like him and enjoy watching him.. but the + on vortex is a little nutso given everything else he can do. I think he needs to KEEP THE VORTEX, but it should be tweaked. Keep it safe, absolutely, but + is a wee bit much lol.

I also think bats should keep charging while one is out - just way the fuck slower. This let's him do everything he does now but spreads it out a little and opens up round some to the opponent.

If you kill his vortex and kill his bat recharge, you are just going to see Atrocitus Batman's. They will spend huge parts of the match huddled up, doing nothing, running away and just waiting on bats, for a little flurry of activity that can be totally stopped right away, then back to huddled waiting. You may hate Batman and want him to be weak - but that kinda shit is bad for the game. I keep saying it, characters need to be dynamic and interesting.

If Batman loses trait recharge while one is active then he at least needs the ability to choose the number of bats he calls at a time, so if he builds up more than one, he can choose to only call one at a time.

Just VERY LIGHTLY nerf him - and make the mid tier and low tier better. Pull the game up, not down.

Batman doesn't even need mechanical bats to be effective. It's plain overkill. Nerf the fuck out of bat recharge imo, leave the reast of batman intact, he'll still be a force to be reckoned with unlike atrocitus.
 

JontyHar23

Never Stop Improving
I think Batman shouldn't start the match with three bats at the ready. Batman with all three bats allows for his best shenanigans, and he shouldn't begin the match with such an advantage, in my opinion. Having Batman begin with only one bat seems fair. It helps for characters like Cheetah and Bane to better fight Batman early on, while still leaving Batman with an option against characters like Deadshot and Green Arrow early in the match.
 

TheGangstaFace

Psn, Xbox, Twitter: TheGangstaFace
Batman doesn't even need mechanical bats to be effective. It's plain overkill. Nerf the fuck out of bat recharge imo, leave the reast of batman intact, he'll still be a force to be reckoned with unlike atrocitus.
You have no idea what you’re talking about lol. Bats are used for plus frames, zoning, conditioning, conversions, and even counts as 90% of his neutral lol. Slowing the recharge down a fuck ton would hurt a lot. I honestly think the most fine way to nerf trait is to make bats disappear after 6 seconds or something similar to that