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The Fall Classic Results!

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
The Fall Classic took place over the weekend of September 30th-October 1st and had tournaments for both Injustice 2 AND MKXL running. Below are the results for Injustice 2:


1st

Grr

2. Guile Cupcake
3. Circa Nicky
4. SidTheHaze
5. King Raj
5. Lord Zappa
7. Trepound
7. EMP|KN.KDZ

Bracket is here: https://smash.gg/tournament/the-fall-classic/events/injustice-2/brackets?filter={"phaseId":155447}

Archive up to top 8 is here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/178648281?t=04h40m45s




MKXL top 8 is below:


2. Guile Cupcake
3. SidTheHaze
4. Lord Zappa
5. HZRDSFGC_Saiyan
5. King Raj
7. @LeftOverShark
7. Killadilla
 

Thingy

Retired account
Viewership for this tourney is an all time low
I hate to say this as an NRS loyalist...but this game is losing peoples interest at a record pace. Tournaments viewership is already low AF, Twitch viewership is terrible with popular NRS streamers only averaging around 150 viewers(and "pros"/tournament players rarely even stream anymore), on XBox there are about 4-18 people in rooms in prime USA hours(yeah, I know it's XBox, but still should be doing better). For a game that came out in 2017, this shit is unreal.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Viewership for this tourney is an all time low
Top 8's on now, didn't even realise. The lack of promotion about this event is astounding lol. Surprised none of the TOs have posted ANYTHING about this

http://www.twitch.tv/bifuteki

Bracket link is in the OP
I'm going to be completely honest, didn't even know TFC was going on this past weekend. Saw no promotion from NRS and didn't really see anyone talking about it on social media. Also seems the event itself was hardly promoted, only 58 entrants for Injustice 2?

Also, who even won this? Very disheartening, tbh
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
I hate to say this as an NRS loyalist...but this game is losing peoples interest at a record pace. Tournaments viewership is already low AF, Twitch viewership is terrible with popular NRS streamers only averaging around 150 viewers(and "pros"/tournament players rarely even stream anymore), on XBox there are about 4-18 people in rooms in prime USA hours(yeah, I know it's XBox, but still should be doing better). For a game that came out in 2017, this shit is unreal.
I'm going to be completely honest, didn't even know TFC was going on this past weekend. Saw no promotion from NRS and didn't really see anyone talking about it on social media. Also seems the event itself was hardly promoted, only 58 entrants for Injustice 2?

Also, who even won this? Very disheartening, tbh
I didn't even know this was going on until the top 8, and even then i had to work, so i snuck here and there just to watch.
Basically what I’ve talked about on my podcast discussion these past two weeks on my YouTube

That and hooker money matches
@CrimsonShadow
 
In addition to the things you guys are mentioning, TYM char forums and discord is completely DEAD. MKX was good until 50 different versions of the game muddied the forums but they were at least active. MK9 and I1 tym character forum days were amazing.

Its almost impossible to rely on the current character forum and discord to learn characters. I think this kind of goes in line.

How were I2's game sales?
 

Linkuei82

Live by the sword, Die by the sword
The game is getting pretty stale watching and playing imo. I don't remember this ever happening to MK9, INJ, or even MKX until INJ2 came out. This seems like it's losing steam waaayyy quicker then the last games.

What's interesting to me that the game that had the least patches, was more unbalance, and was at more Evo then all the other games was MK9. I wish some of you new guys would have seen how the forum and community was like during that time.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
Indeed. I don't think viewership broke 500 at any time yesterday.
What was viewership for TFC 2016?
In addition to the things you guys are mentioning, TYM char forums and discord is completely DEAD. MKX was good until 50 different versions of the game muddied the forums but they were at least active. MK9 and I1 tym character forum days were amazing.

Its almost impossible to rely on the current character forum and discord to learn characters. I think this kind of goes in line.

How were I2's game sales?
The game is getting pretty stale watching and playing imo. I don't remember this ever happening to MK9, INJ, or even MKX until INJ2 came out. This seems like it's losing steam waaayyy quicker then the last games.

What's interesting to me that the game that had the least patches, was more unbalance, and was at more Evo then all the other games was MK9. I wish some of you new guys would have seen how the forum and community was like during that time.
Tell me -- how many of you guys watched The Fall Classic 2016? How many viewers did it have?

Imo people are desperate to use tournaments that haven't had viewers or top attendees in years to push their agenda.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
What are you guys doing to help boost viewership for our scene? Other than complaining about the viewers?

What are you doing to help boost the character forums, other than complaining about them?

There's an epidemic of community members who don't contribute and just take, but complain more loudly than ever. That's not how you grow a scene.
 
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Linkuei82

Live by the sword, Die by the sword
What was viewership for TFC 2016?



Tell me -- how many of you guys watched The Fall Classic 2016? How many viewers did it have?

Imo people are desperate to use tournaments that haven't had viewers or top attendees in years to push their agenda.
Push my agenda? What do you mean by that?


What are you guys doing to help boost viewership for our scene? Other than complaining about the viewers?

What are you doing to help boost the character forums, other than complaining about them?

There is an epidemic of people who don't contribute and just take, but complain more loudly than ever. That's not how you grow a scene.
I've been watching NRS streams since MK9, I have been on this forum since 2011, and I am a premium member. I can't control what people do on here besides myself. As a fan of Midway/NRS games I can state out the facts that I've seen and this isn't the first time I seen a decline in the games since the 3D era.

If there an issue or concern the players and fans can state it. It's not just happening in this FGC community it's with others as well. Not sure why you are getting upset about what we posted?
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
If there an issue or concern the players and fans can state it. It's not just happening in this FGC community it's with others as well. Not sure why you are getting upset about what we posted?
Because no one can say how many viewers TFC had last year, or even watched it. No one talked about the results. And no one cared.

But this year, it fits the "omg no viewers" narrative, so now it's suddenly being pushed as part of the "Omg no viewers this year" conversation, when that makes no sense.

And furthermore, most of the people complaining did not Tweet the stream out, host it on their Twitch channel, or do anything to aid the viewership. Half of them didn't even watch, and yet they're still here complaining. Again, that is not how you grow a scene.
 

Linkuei82

Live by the sword, Die by the sword
Because no one can say how many viewers TFC had last year, or even watched it. No one talked about the results. And no one cared.

But this year, it fits the "omg no viewers" narrative, so now it's suddenly being pushed as part of the "Omg no viewers this year" conversation, when that makes no sense.

And furthermore, most of the people complaining did not Tweet the stream out or do anything to aid the viewership. Half of them didn't even watch, and yet they're still here complaining.
Sorry I don't keep records and data of the viewership for the past 6 years. But I have notice that the viewership has decline at a rate for this game compared to the past games. Not only for just streamers but tournaments. This is going off how new this game is and comparing it to the numbers of other fighting games that are streaming.

This is the first time I said something about this and its me complaining?
 

Linkuei82

Live by the sword, Die by the sword
I also find it funny that I don't get called out for "How are you going to help grow the scene instead of complaining" when I stated my concern about other games in the other forum section but it's not ok when I do it for the first time with an NRS game.