Green Lantern General Discussion Thread

[Bes110]

Nice job man, was watching the stream last night. That GL looking clean. "Clean Lantern"

Thanks man! I think I am at the point now where to take the next step I need to learn how all the other characters tick and what they do rather than lantern.

The clean lantern pun made me laugh a lot haha.

 

[BunLantern]

Reo just posted his tier list and he put GL in A tier which seems fair. Imo he has 6 definite bad match ups and another 3 that are up in the air.

Cyborg, Red Hood, Deadshot, Supergirl, Fate, Darkseid.

Maybe Batman, Firestorm and Starfire

I think the only characters he might beat in S tier are Catwoman and Atrocitus. The rest of his winning match ups are uncommon picks in competitive play.

 

[Cashual]

Reo just posted his tier list and he put GL in A tier which seems fair. Imo he has 6 definite bad match ups and another 3 that are up in the air.

Cyborg, Red Hood, Deadshot, Supergirl, Fate, Darkseid.

Maybe Batman, Firestorm and Starfire

I think the only characters he might beat in S tier are Catwoman and Atrocitus. The rest of his winning match ups are uncommon picks in competitive play.

I don't play any good Catwoman's just curious why you think GL wins?

I agree GL beats Atro....but it seems like that's not very popular of an opinion.

 

[Jhonnykiller45]

Reo just posted his tier list and he put GL in A tier which seems fair. Imo he has 6 definite bad match ups and another 3 that are up in the air.

Cyborg, Red Hood, Deadshot, Supergirl, Fate, Darkseid.

Maybe Batman, Firestorm and Starfire

I think the only characters he might beat in S tier are Catwoman and Atrocitus. The rest of his winning match ups are uncommon picks in competitive play.

Starfire definitely fucks Lantern up.

 

[BunLantern]

I don't play any good Catwoman's just curious why you think GL wins?

I agree GL beats Atro....but it seems like that's not very popular of an opinion.

Since losing armor on cat dash zoning her has become possible which is huge because that leads to a meter advantage. B1 catches her B3 which many characters have trouble punishing and it's one of her best combo starters.

She does more damage than GL (but who doesn't) and she controls the air but as long as you're not jumping like crazy that shouldn't matter.

It's definitely not a huge advantage but I'd say It's there.

 

[Bes110]

Hey guys! Here is the most recent tournament I participated in. I had three matches on stream.

First match is a 3-2 victory over a Batman to make winners finals. This match is at 1:50:00.

Second match is a 1-3 loss in winners finals to a blue beetle. This match is at 2:40:36

Third match is a 0-3 loss in losers finals to a swamp thing. This match is at 3:08:11

I felt the losses I had in winners and losers finals were all close. Any advice is appreciated! And while im not too too good if you are a lantern player who wants to pick up some of my stuff please watch for that as well!

I will always be repping lantern! Go green team!

Here is the link:

 

[Cashual]

Hey guys! Here is the most recent tournament I participated in. I had three matches on stream.

First match is a 3-2 victory over a Batman to make winners finals. This match is at 1:50:00.

Second match is a 1-3 loss in winners finals to a blue beetle. This match is at 2:40:36

Third match is a 0-3 loss in losers finals to a swamp thing. This match is at 3:08:11

I felt the losses I had in winners and losers finals were all close. Any advice is appreciated! And while im not too too good if you are a lantern player who wants to pick up some of my stuff please watch for that as well!

I will always be repping lantern! Go green team!

Here is the link:

Nice work! You were looking good.

The few critiques I have are this:

You left damage on the table in pretty much all bnbs and also in your mb b3 combos. After mb b3, try ji3, ji1(late), 123, lift. You can mb lift b3 or whatever too if you wanna spend 2.

In your bnb, you're using 223 which is ok I guess and I use it on tiny hitbox characters like catwoman, SG, and even joker for consistency sake, but after b134xxdb1 step forward slightly and use 123 in place of 223 for better damage.

I also was surprised how often you used b12. I guess it's ok because the batsman didn't know what to do with it, but it's backdashable and a lot of characters once they read it can mb b3 full combo and others can d1 interrupt for full combo. I will say you did a nice job staggering b1 though which maybe kept them honest. If you're going to rely on b12 so heavily I think once a game after conditioning you should throw out b1xxbf2 just to blow their mind. Don't wanna do it often but once in a while it catches people (I like to do it with trait up for knockdown oki).

Do you ever use f2d13? I really like to mix f2d1 with f2 slight pause b1. It catches so many people and is hit confirmable both ways full combo.

I know that's lots of feedback but I really think you did a nice job, im not trying to jump all over you! Good shit man, and way to bring it back down 0-2, nice mental toughness.

 

[Bes110]

Nice work! You were looking good.

The few critiques I have are this:

You left damage on the table in pretty much all bnbs and also in your mb b3 combos. After mb b3, try ji3, ji1(late), 123, lift. You can mb lift b3 or whatever too if you wanna spend 2.

In your bnb, you're using 223 which is ok I guess and I use it on tiny hitbox characters like catwoman, SG, and even joker for consistency sake, but after b134xxdb1 step forward slightly and use 123 in place of 223 for better damage.

I also was surprised how often you used b12. I guess it's ok because the batsman didn't know what to do with it, but it's backdashable and a lot of characters once they read it can mb b3 full combo and others can d1 interrupt for full combo. I will say you did a nice job staggering b1 though which maybe kept them honest. If you're going to rely on b12 so heavily I think once a game after conditioning you should throw out b1xxbf2 just to blow their mind. Don't wanna do it often but once in a while it catches people (I like to do it with trait up for knockdown oki).

Do you ever use f2d13? I really like to mix f2d1 with f2 slight pause b1. It catches so many people and is hit confirmable both ways full combo.

I know that's lots of feedback but I really think you did a nice job, im not trying to jump all over you! Good shit man, and way to bring it back down 0-2, nice mental toughness.

Wow man! Thank you so much! I am definitely going to practice getting more damage out of my combos. If I leave out a few percentage points on every combo that adds up.

Also, I had NO idea you could throw out a bowling ball after b1. I am seriously going to practice that and incorporate that into my game!

I really appreciate you taking the time! I am trying to improve every day. There are still SO many lantern tools that I have to practice and master to become better!

 

[Cashual]

Wow man! Thank you so much! I am definitely going to practice getting more damage out of my combos. If I leave out a few percentage points on every combo that adds up.

Also, I had NO idea you could throw out a bowling ball after b1. I am seriously going to practice that and incorporate that into my game!

I really appreciate you taking the time! I am trying to improve every day. There are still SO many lantern tools that I have to practice and master to become better!

Yeah man absolutely, we gotta stick together. And you're right, especially with GL where damage doesn't come easily, optimizing damage is crucial.

You have a nice feel and timing with your mb b3s, such a strong tool for us. And the mb b3, ji3, ji1 late, 123, lift is easy and is one of our most damaging combos.

The b12 and b1xxbowling ball mix is risky and doesn't have a ton of reward, but it's awesome for closing out healthbars especially and just makes the opponent do something other than just stand block after every b1. If you're traited and you mb the bowling ball it's full combo too.

I'm trying to implement the d1xxlift option select rebelo uses, check that out.

 

[Bes110]

Yeah man absolutely, we gotta stick together. And you're right, especially with GL where damage doesn't come easily, optimizing damage is crucial.

You have a nice feel and timing with your mb b3s, such a strong tool for us. And the mb b3, ji3, ji1 late, 123, lift is easy and is one of our most damaging combos.

The b12 and b1xxbowling ball mix is risky and doesn't have a ton of reward, but it's awesome for closing out healthbars especially and just makes the opponent do something other than just stand block after every b1. If you're traited and you mb the bowling ball it's full combo too.

I'm trying to implement the d1xxlift option select rebelo uses, check that out.

What exactly is an option select and how do we/Rebelo use it?

 

[Cashual]

What exactly is an option select and how do we/Rebelo use it?

An option select is basically a situation where the same input will yield a different outcome depending on your opponents reaction. In many cases of NRS games, common option selects consist of inputting day a string and cancelling into an unsafe launching special or something, but by inputting it a certain way, the unsafe special will only come out on hit but not on block thus leaving you safe on block but ready to do damage on hit.

@Rebelo can you explain the d1 lift OS?

But basically the OS is that you can d1 lift without hitconfirming for full combo but the very unsafe punishable lift won't come out of the opponent blocks the d1. I just personally don't know exactly how to execute it, buT I want to because that's a crazy tool

Other example of option selects allow you to block an opponents attack but also allow you to blow up certain gaps in strings or special cancels if the opponent tries certain things or messes up timing. Basically your reversal special will only come out if it's guaranteed to land and otherwise you'll keep blocking. OS is exploiting the mechanism games use when basically the game decides what you "meant to do" when the input is unclear and it tends to do what will be best for you in a given situation

 

[B. Shazzy]

lmao its not an os rebelo is just a scrub and calls it that so he doesnt seem like a scrub when he guesses wrong

 

[Cashual]

lmao its not an os rebelo is just a scrub and calls it that so he doesnt seem like a scrub when he guesses wrong

Lol not sure if trolling but he swears it's an option select. While watching it live i thought he was just being a savage and just commiting to it. He came into the thread an actually corrected me about it though and said it was an option select.

Either way, not once did the lift come out on block though....so either an OS or just godlike reads.

But I enjoyed your post though like I enjoy most of them so thank you

 

[2jz4lyfe]

I don't think GL struggles too much against SG. Play footies, catch the teleport with 123 into lift. Or puniag otherwise. Btw, do you guys zone with him much? I feel a defensive GL is the way to go. Opinions?

 

[Jhonnykiller45]

I don't think GL struggles too much against SG. Play footies, catch the teleport with 123 into lift. Or puniag otherwise. Btw, do you guys zone with him much? I feel a defensive GL is the way to go. Opinions?

Yeah for sure. Lantern's normals don't have the best frames so you can't really be too aggressive while using him.
I zone with him when and where it's applicable i.e against characters like Flash or Canary. Sometimes Batman, Beetle, Firestorm etc. players get careless and/or don't know how to deal with Lantern's tools so they get to be zoned too.

 

[Cashual]

I don't think GL struggles too much against SG. Play footies, catch the teleport with 123 into lift. Or puniag otherwise. Btw, do you guys zone with him much? I feel a defensive GL is the way to go. Opinions?

Damn have you had this icon/avatar for a while?

 

[Rebelo]

lmao its not an os rebelo is just a scrub and calls it that so he doesnt seem like a scrub when he guesses wrong

This scrub bodied your business boi

 

[2jz4lyfe]

Damn have you had this icon/avatar for a while?

Not too long. Maybe a month or so

 

[Cashual]

Not too long. Maybe a month or so

Ok cool, I recently had started using that avy after finding it on google so I already changed my icon so no worries

 

[Bes110]

Hello all lanterns! Weekly tournament update! I just finished 5th out of about 20 competitors in my weekly online tournament. Slightly disappointed because this tournament marks the third time in a row that my two losses have come to the SAME swamp thing and blue beetle players. I really think it is a matter of matchup knowledge. I plan on posting in the beetle and swamp boards to find sparring partners! Go green team!

 

[2jz4lyfe]

How but that Gross performance bois?!

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

How but that Gross performance bois?!

legit inspiring. and him hulking up and going all I JUST WON THE SUPER BOWL was amazing.

 

[Tundra81]

How but that Gross performance bois?!

The pop off vs Dragon was viscous. Hayatei was playing out of his mind but I really wish Gross didn't go with the AM pick and stuck with GL. Still hype none the less.

 

[BunLantern]

Gross is hands down the best Green Lantern, the rest of us suck

 

[Cashual]

Gross is the GOAT. The Aquaman pick hurt my feelings. I don't see how Robin is a particularly difficult matchup for GL what do you guys think?