Current (05/13/17) Wonder Woman

[Lex Luthor II]

going from 40% meterless to 15%

Is every character that had previous meterless high damaging combos getting changed? Aquaman is the same way, no more meterless combos.

I actually have a (maybe slightly hair-brained) theory behind why they did that.

Wonder Woman and Nightwing in IGAU were effectively two characters sandwiched into one via their traits. And let's be real, in Wonder Woman's case especially, Sword Stance, while far from useless, was nevertheless used far less than her Lasso Stance was. And obviously you could only use her sword/shield OR her lasso/tiara at any particular moment, which they possibly didn't feel was best representative of her as a character, and so they re-modeled her so that she can use all of her weapons all of the time.

But in general they seem to want to move away from the whole '2 in 1' deal.




I very much intend to go into Injustice 2 thinking of Wonder Woman as an entirely new character, with the old Wonder Woman being among the likes of Raven and Zatanna - characters I loved using in Injustice 1 but who won't be returning.

And honestly, I'm not going to worry too much about how good or not good she may end up being. Even if she does end up being gutter trash, there are always patches to sort things out.

(Also IGAU WW, as fun as she was to use, really did have an unfair amount of stuff going for her compared to a huge chunk of the cast, even if she wasn't the worst offender on that front)

I do like her using all the weapons she has available whenever she wants, makes more sense to the character herself.

It is kinda nice, its a new character but still my favorite WoWo! as long as she isnt super bad.

 

[Evil Canadian]

Are we really calling for moves to be nerfed before the game's even officially out?

... You ever been to TYM before?

 

[chores]

Is every character that had previous meterless high damaging combos getting changed? Aquaman is the same way, no more meterless combos.



I do like her using all the weapons she has available whenever she wants, makes more sense to the character herself.

It is kinda nice, its a new character but still my favorite WoWo! as long as she isnt super bad.

no, black adam gets 40% meterless, look at awesomo's twitter

 

[ChatterBox]

Thanks for the write up @Akromaniac27 I agree with the wait and see approach. She is certainly a new character. I've been using b2 trait to end combos, but if 113 is better then I'm just gonna say thanks now haha.

Everyone who is concerned about meterless damage, calm down. She has some its just not free all the time. f23 connects off a deep j2 and her walk speed means you can whiff punish with it as well.

My only concern so far is that hit confirms into MB shield toss seem hard, but maybe that'll improve with practice.

 

[Akromaniac27]

Risky, idk, cuz of the whole game not out and it can get removed, so I made this video unlisted. Anyone visiting the thread can view it so hopefully this will satisfy my fellow Amazons until release. Basically all her bnbs go into Shield Toss*MB and followed up the same. 113 is that string with the lasso slam at the end of it

Inputs in order:

**D12~Shield toss*MB, F23, B3, JI3, JI1, 113, Trait
D12~Shield toss*MB, B3, JI3, 3~lasso grab
D12~Floor Bounce Cancel, JI3, b11~amalthea bash
D12~Shield toss*MB, B3, JI3, 3~lasso grab
B2~Wall Bounce Cancel, JI3, 3~lasso grab

D12~Shield toss*MB, F23, 3~Upward amalthea bash, B11~trait
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, 3~Upward amalthea bash, B11~trait
D12~Shield toss*MB, F23, 3~Upward amalthea bash, 11, 113, trait (is safe in the corner only if they tech roll)
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, 3~Upward amalthea bash, 11, 113, trait (is safe in the corner only if they tech roll)
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, NJ3, 11~amalthea bash, D12~lasso grab
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, 3~Upward amalthea bash, 11~amalthea bash, D12~lasso grab
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, 3~Upward amalthea bash, 11~amalthea bash, D12~amalthea bash

 

[SZSR]

Risky, idk, cuz of the whole game not out and it can get removed, so I made this video unlisted. Anyone visiting the thread can view it so hopefully this will satisfy my fellow Amazons until release. Basically all her bnbs go into Shield Toss*MB and followed up the same. 113 is that string with the lasso slam at the end of it

In the first combo what was that string after the shield boomerang?

 

[StormGoddess]

Risky, idk, cuz of the whole game not out and it can get removed, so I made this video unlisted. Anyone visiting the thread can view it so hopefully this will satisfy my fellow Amazons until release. Basically all her bnbs go into Shield Toss*MB and followed up the same. 113 is that string with the lasso slam at the end of it

Thank you so much for this...

 

[Nivek]

Risky, idk, cuz of the whole game not out and it can get removed, so I made this video unlisted. Anyone visiting the thread can view it so hopefully this will satisfy my fellow Amazons until release. Basically all her bnbs go into Shield Toss*MB and followed up the same. 113 is that string with the lasso slam at the end of it

one combo i didn't saw and i know it works is f23, 3~db3, 11~bf3, d12~bf1
Good stuff though..still i was we were able to choose the trait power and the option be more creative like proj-reflect.

 

[GrimJack]

Risky, idk, cuz of the whole game not out and it can get removed, so I made this video unlisted. Anyone visiting the thread can view it so hopefully this will satisfy my fellow Amazons until release. Basically all her bnbs go into Shield Toss*MB and followed up the same. 113 is that string with the lasso slam at the end of it

why can you combo mb shield into b3? I thought that is impossible

 

[Akromaniac27]

one combo i didn't saw and i know it works is f23, 3~db3, 11~bf3, d12~bf1
Good stuff though..still i was we were able to choose the trait power and the option be more creative like proj-reflect.

For midscreen or corner? Cuz that one is in for the corner bnbs. I just used F3 more because it does a little more damage, and if you have the shield buff trait on, adds even more to it

 

[Akromaniac27]

why can you combo mb shield into b3? I thought that is impossible

It's a tight link, so its better to do f23 and then b3 midscreen. It's just to show optimal (as far as I know) damage (literally like a 1-2% difference only)

 

[4_TheUsers]

<3

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Nice! She gets pretty good damage for a bar.

Her trait will most likely end up being good, maybe we just overreacted.

 

[Akromaniac27]

Nice! She gets pretty good damage for a bar.

Her trait will most likely end up being good, maybe we just overreacted.

Yeah I love her trait. And this is a general question to the everyone, should I make the video public?

 

[SadoDragon]

@Akromaniac27 good find with the trait definitely going try this when the game come out.

 

[lslick]

Yeah I love her trait. And this is a general question to the everyone, should I make the video public?

I take it that the reason you end the combos with 113 instead of 223 is cause the knockdown is longer? Would it make sense to use the 223 ender if the opponent doesn't have a far reaching punish? The only reason I bring it up is cause 223 deals more damage

 

[Akromaniac27]

One thing I forgot to mention about trait and I'll make a video of it later, is that when the symbol for the buff is gone, and trait is charging back up (that red bar filling up for next use), whatever buff you had on, still works until youre able to activate trait again, she just won't glow for those few seconds. I'm not sure if it's a bug or intentional or if it'll get removed within the first patch, but yeah.

 

[Akromaniac27]

I take it that the reason you end the combos with 113 instead of 223 is cause the knockdown is longer? Would it make sense to use the 223 ender if the opponent doesn't have a far reaching punish? The only reason I bring it up is cause 223 deals more damage

A couple reasons why. 2 is slower than her 1 and won't connect on several bnbs so you lose damage for it. 223 does a few percent more on its own, but the knockdown itself is a double edged sword. If they don't tech it, it's massive plus frames but if they do, you risk getting punished especially in the corner. 113 grants a safe trait whether they tech it or not. Corner only for 113, if they don't tech, you can get punished for activating trait, but if you don't you're still like +40 give or take

 

[lslick]

One thing I forgot to mention about trait and I'll make a video of it later, is that when the symbol for the buff is gone, and trait is charging back up (that red bar filling up for next use), whatever buff you had on, still works until youre able to activate trait again, she just won't glow for those few seconds. I'm not sure if it's a bug or intentional or if it'll get removed within the first patch, but yeah.

After you mentioned it, and I definitely see what you are talking about since the benefits of her lasso were still in play after it was on cooldown :O

 

[lslick]

A couple reasons why. 2 is slower than her 1 and won't connect on several bnbs so you lose damage for it. 223 does a few percent more on its own, but the knockdown itself is a double edged sword. If they don't tech it, it's massive plus frames but if they do, you risk getting punished especially in the corner. 113 grants a safe trait whether they tech it or not. Corner only for 113, if they don't tech, you can get punished for activating trait, but if you don't you're still like +40 give or take

I figured it would ok in situations where your back in towards the corner and the knockdown plus the roll tech would put even more distance between the two. Allowing you to get the trait up. I didn't test out any long combos yet unfortunately but it does make sense that 223 would cause the person to fall out

 

[Akromaniac27]

After you mentioned it, and I definitely see what you are talking about since the benefits of her lasso were still in play after it was on cooldown :O

That's the thing, there is no cool down lol. It isn't shown in the video. Her trait buff just lasts THAT long

 

[Akromaniac27]

From the first frame of her activating trait even if she gets hit out she still has that buff all the way until she's able to activate trait again

 

[StormGoddess]

@Akromaniac27 -
just saw your online match against Pig's Dr Fate.
Good job, Pig Of The Hut was on auto pilot thru those sets until you came and put pressure on him. Fate's zoning seems to be a major problem for most but you seemed to find some answers but nothing consistently. Between WW traited up shield toss and bracelets parry, do you feel like in a runback set you could have dealt with the zoning more comfortably?

here are the online matches - Akromaniac27 - match starts at around
54:30.

 

[Lex Luthor II]

@Akromaniac27 -
just saw your online match against Pig's Dr Fate.
Good job, Pig Of The Hut was on auto pilot thru those sets until you came and put pressure on him. Fate's zoning seems to be a major problem for most but you seemed to find some answers but nothing consistently. Between WW traited up shield toss and bracelets parry, do you feel like in a runback set you could have dealt with the zoning more comfortably?

here are the online matches - Akromaniac27 - match starts at around
54:30.

You were the closest one to beating him it seemed.

Annoying they took out many tools WoWo had to deal with great zoning play

Risky, idk, cuz of the whole game not out and it can get removed, so I made this video unlisted. Anyone visiting the thread can view it so hopefully this will satisfy my fellow Amazons until release. Basically all her bnbs go into Shield Toss*MB and followed up the same. 113 is that string with the lasso slam at the end of it

Inputs in order:

**D12~Shield toss*MB, F23, B3, JI3, JI1, 113, Trait
D12~Shield toss*MB, B3, JI3, 3~lasso grab
D12~Floor Bounce Cancel, JI3, b11~amalthea bash
D12~Shield toss*MB, B3, JI3, 3~lasso grab
B2~Wall Bounce Cancel, JI3, 3~lasso grab

D12~Shield toss*MB, F23, 3~Upward amalthea bash, B11~trait
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, 3~Upward amalthea bash, B11~trait
D12~Shield toss*MB, F23, 3~Upward amalthea bash, 11, 113, trait (is safe in the corner only if they tech roll)
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, 3~Upward amalthea bash, 11, 113, trait (is safe in the corner only if they tech roll)
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, NJ3, 11~amalthea bash, D12~lasso grab
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, 3~Upward amalthea bash, 11~amalthea bash, D12~lasso grab
D12~Shield toss*MB, F3, 3~Upward amalthea bash, 11~amalthea bash, D12~amalthea bash

How easy is it to hit comfirm a d12 into shield toss??

Easier or harder than d12 tiara in IGAU1?

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

I could careless about random trait if they just give projectile reflect parry, air dive bomb and straight air punch from inj 1 as part of her base moveset.