For Honor

[CrazyFingers]

Sup Juggs -- I've barely had time to play anything lately (other than a bit of OW), so I'm just watching casually from afar.

You and your overwatch


























jk love ya Crimson. Overwatch is fun.

 

[GAV]

I already addressed this claim of yours go back and read it. Start up frames are how quick an attack takes to hit or how long it takes till active frames.
The only argument you have here is that conq may have shorter ranged active frames in the beginning of his bash which is irrelevant if a conq just gets close to you.
The next part of your statement has to be the most misguided statement I've ever read.

https://goo.gl/images/arpHNA

 

[Juggs]

Sup Juggs -- I've barely had time to play anything lately (other than a bit of OW), so I'm just watching casually from afar.

It's fun, you should try it.

 

[Red Hood MKX]

LOL most played fighting game. I'm sorry as a PC gamer myself if you can read between the lines I can only say that you're a fool.

Of course FH beats other fighting games on steam, it's garbage 30 FPS on console. KI is xbox and windows store exclusive, SF is PS4 and PC mostly played on PS4, etc. Learn to make some apples to apples comparisons.

For Honor post the new game hype has tanked hard on steam. These are numbers from today: 8958 Peak, 6,042 currently playing. It's currently ranked 60th in activity behind world of tanks, clicker heroes, counter strike source, age of empires 2, mount and blade, etc.

http://imgur.com/a/xzWTC

The difference between a game with steady numbers and a game that's heavily bleeding players:

http://imgur.com/a/sf8bz

Hey asshole i dont have time to research all the bullshit you just put up here, not only do i not have time i just dont give a fuck.

I was wrong ok i admit i took a article i read out of context ok you happy now

 

[Juggs]

Watching the tournament.

Goki mirrors look so silly, lmao.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

Watching the tournament.

Goki mirrors look so silly, lmao.

gokis offense is basically only his unlocked play and some gb soft feints

 

[Red Hood MKX]

Been watching pk maul people in tournaments i think PK is the best character at in the game at this moment hands down. Plus people are are learning how to fight warlord and the full guard nerf is starting to show more now. I do not think he is the best character in the game right now he is probably the 3rd best after conq

Example PK beats conq warlord has a hard time against conq she beats goki warlord has a hard time against goki she beats warden an even match up for warlord. she opens these characters up way more easily than warlord does shit she even opens up conq a glitchy bugy character that blocks unblockables lol do i need to say any more

 

[deathblooms2k4]

Hey asshole i dont have time to research all the bullshit you just put up here, not only do i not have time i just dont give a fuck.

I was wrong ok i admit i took a article i read out of context ok you happy now

If you don't have time to research then accept people will call you on you uninformed statements. It's nothing to get upset about. Also we all understand you play warlord and you're petrified of your main getting nerfed you don't need to repeat yourself any longer.

 

[Juggs]

Been watching pk maul people in tournaments i think PK is the best character at in the game at this moment hands down. Plus people are are learning how to fight warlord and the full guard nerf is starting to show more now. I do not think he is the best character in the game right now he is probably the 3rd best after conq

Example PK beats conq warlord has a hard time against conq she beats goki warlord has a hard time against goki she beats warden an even match up for warlord. she opens these characters up way more easily than warlord does shit she even opens up conq a glitchy bugy character that blocks unblockables lol do i need to say any more

I think Warlord, Goki, Conq and PK can all make arguments for being the best. PK is definitely pretty ridiculous but at the same time so are the other 3. I think the finals for most tournaments have had a PK in them, but not with PK always winning.

Honestly I just think the top Warlords right now are being downloaded and they aren't adapting. They're just abusing Warlord as a character instead of studying their opponent and matchups.

Personally I would still say it's:
1. Warlord
2. PK
3. Goki
4. Conq

Or

S+
Warlord, PK

S
Goki, Conq

A+
Warden

Well the War Rising finals is set. Only ones I remember, these are the seeds:

1. Petemoo (Walord, Goki)
2. SypherPK (Goki)
3. Stonehead (PK)
4. King Richard (PK)
5. Barace ( )
6. belEEve (PK)
7. viTraxx ( )
8. JarlJordan (Warlord)

Idk who Barace or viTraxx uses.

Finals will be April 3rd at 6pm EST

 

[GAV]

I would like to apologize to @Basic Stupidity and @Gesture Required Ahead. I am completely mistaken in thinking their motives were devious - and here's why...

They want a more offensive game. I like the defensive game it is. I completely misread where they were coming from and I acted like a complete jerk. I questioned their integrity and was completely wrong in doing so. I know I can't take back what I said, but I am sorry for saying it - and I admit I was completely wrong in questioning their integrity because they weren't being self-serving in their motives. Its not character bias that created our divide, but simply differing style preferences. I still don't want the changes they are proposing, but I see where they are coming from now - and I know they believe that these changes would make the game better. I still disagree, but no longer question their integrity, can't believe I couldn't see it before, and apologize for my hurtful words. I am sincerely sorry.

 

[Red Hood MKX]

If you don't have time to research then accept people will call you on you uninformed statements. It's nothing to get upset about. Also we all understand you play warlord and you're petrified of your main getting nerfed you don't need to repeat yourself any longer.

Point noted bro. But You started first with the name calling so naturally i retaliate

 

[Red Hood MKX]

Is it just me or shugoki makes this game look absolutely ridiculous run away run away run away charge run away run away run away charge thats high level gameplay, jesus WTF am i watching. i can see im gonna end up playing injustice 2 something i been trying to avoid

 

[Juggs]

Is it just me or shugoki makes this game look absolutely ridiculous run away run away run away charge run away run away run away charge thats high level gameplay, jesus WTF am i watching. i can see im gonna end up playing injustice 2 something i been trying to avoid

I've been sayinf Goki is bonkers since the beta, with nearly everyone calling me crazy. The problem is most Goki's have no clue how dangerous his unlocked shenanigans are. They generally play straight up and don't even hardly use the oni run or w/e it's called. People swearing that Goki is bottom tier made me question my existence at one point, lolz

 

[Red Hood MKX]

I've been sayinf Goki is bonkers since the beta, with nearly everyone calling me crazy. The problem is most Goki's have no clue how dangerous his unlocked shenanigans are. They generally play straight up and don't even hardly use the oni run or w/e it's called. People swearing that Goki is bottom tier made me question my existence at one point, lolz

Yeah its beyond retarted, good you noticed it from the beginning but no one else is talking about how good he is. even his lock on game is pretty good hyper armor decent speed on his lights insane damage.

but that out of lock game is so stupid to watch why make a character like that, a character that makes running away his core gameplay design i thought this game was gonna be a cool melee fighting game with weapons something i been waiting on a long time not this retarded running away bullshit, is this even a fucking fighting game??? that character might ruin this whole game for me personally watching that stuff in tournaments is just so cringe worthy i rather watch pk spam lights any fucking day than watch that shit

 

[EntropicByDesign]

What worries me is how utterly obvious the tier divides are.. and that, as far as I know, they haven't stepped in and said 'hey shit, we're working on this' but that top 8 listed, with the exception of the couple of guys we don't know the mains of, should show a very real problem, especially since most tournaments with real talent have almost identical top 8s. I mean, with only 12 characters there is going to be way more overlap than you typically see in a game with 20+, obviously, but we are seeing an OBVIOUS bias here. I mean, depending on who the other two guys play, there may not even be a Warden in the top..

And yeah, Goki's optimal play is just stupid. I hate his insta-kill on low health grab too. I know, it's not landed often or easily, but it's a dumb mechanic, to make it so you can beat a player in every way over the course of a long fight, which Goki fights usually are with his high health and ability to potentially heal, etc, but that you can beat him so succinctly, then get scooped and lose..

I really like.this game and I'm not one of the doom and gloom we're all gonna die types by any means, but there are some SERIOUS issues cropping up, very serious, that chasing away people who would otherwise stick around, and (I may be wrong here) but I haven't seen the devs step in and say 'hey, we are aware of the issues and there are changes coming down the pipe, just give us X amount of time's

 

[Red Hood MKX]

What worries me is how utterly obvious the tier divides are.. and that, as far as I know, they haven't stepped in and said 'hey shit, we're working on this' but that top 8 listed, with the exception of the couple of guys we don't know the mains of, should show a very real problem, especially since most tournaments with real talent have almost identical top 8s. I mean, with only 12 characters there is going to be way more overlap than you typically see in a game with 20+, obviously, but we are seeing an OBVIOUS bias here. I mean, depending on who the other two guys play, there may not even be a Warden in the top..

And yeah, Goki's optimal play is just stupid. I hate his insta-kill on low health grab too. I know, it's not landed often or easily, but it's a dumb mechanic, to make it so you can beat a player in every way over the course of a long fight, which Goki fights usually are with his high health and ability to potentially heal, etc, but that you can beat him so succinctly, then get scooped and lose..

I really like.this game and I'm not one of the doom and gloom we're all gonna die types by any means, but there are some SERIOUS issues cropping up, very serious, that chasing away people who would otherwise stick around, and (I may be wrong here) but I haven't seen the devs step in and say 'hey, we are aware of the issues and there are changes coming down the pipe, just give us X amount of time's

But the devs have mentioned there going to nerf warlord pk and conq no word on goki. My biggest problem right now is i dont like how the game looks at high level it doesnt come close to the mk competitive scene right now too much bugs glitches and shogoki lol. but its still early for this game im trying my hardest to stay patient but alot of these issues should have been dealt with already. But they may take too long like you said they really need to hurry up patch some of these big issues before its too late

 

[Basic Stupidity]

I think Warlord, Goki, Conq and PK can all make arguments for being the best. PK is definitely pretty ridiculous but at the same time so are the other 3. I think the finals for most tournaments have had a PK in them, but not with PK always winning.

Honestly I just think the top Warlords right now are being downloaded and they aren't adapting. They're just abusing Warlord as a character instead of studying their opponent and matchups.

Personally I would still say it's:
1. Warlord
2. PK
3. Goki
4. Conq

Or

S+
Warlord, PK

S
Goki, Conq

A+
Warden

Well the War Rising finals is set. Only ones I remember, these are the seeds:

1. Petemoo (Walord, Goki)
2. SypherPK (Goki)
3. Stonehead (PK)
4. King Richard (PK)
5. Barace ( )
6. belEEve (PK)
7. viTraxx ( )
8. JarlJordan (Warlord)

Idk who Barace or viTraxx uses.

Finals will be April 3rd at 6pm EST

The reason conq usually doesn't win is because conq has a 4-6 matchup against peacekeeper. He can't really get out his shield bash against her cuz of zone and he doesn't get a free parry off her zone. However he can really punish her once she runs out of stamina. Warlord on the other hand does really well against pk and so that's why pk doesn't win much. Warlord can punish the zone easier than any other character and has a lot more options against pk that no one else has. Pk v Goki matchup is pretty even. If pk can get hits she wins if she can't she loses. Pk dominates any other character than the ones mentioned above.

 

[Red Hood MKX]

The reason conq usually doesn't win is because conq has a 4-6 matchup against peacekeeper. He can't really get out his shield bash against her cuz of zone and he doesn't get a free parry off her zone. However he can really punish her once she runs out of stamina. Warlord on the other hand does really well against pk and so that's why pk doesn't win much. Warlord can punish the zone easier than any other character and has a lot more options against pk that no one else has. Pk v Goki matchup is pretty even. If pk can get hits she wins if she can't she loses. Pk dominates any other character than the ones mentioned above.

How does warlord punish pk's zone im curious i need to start doing it if he can. From what i can tell she is still safe even against warlord

 

[EntropicByDesign]

But the devs have mentioned there going to nerf warlord pk and conq no word on goki. My biggest problem right now is i dont like how the game looks at high level it doesnt come close to the mk competitive scene right now too much bugs glitches and shogoki lol. but its still early for this game im trying my hardest to stay patient but alot of these issues should have been dealt with already. But they may take too long like you said they really need to hurry up patch some of these big issues before its too late

See, I didnt know they had acknowledged the tops were ridiculous and needed to be worked on. That's an important step, but they need to kinda get on it IMO, start giving us info on what changes they are considering and what might be around the corner.

The game is young and it seems to be stumbling in terms of its high level competitive play and scene, but they have a lot of time to right the ship.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

How does warlord punish pk's zone im curious i need to start doing it if he can. From what i can tell she is still safe even against warlord

Just his full guard options. The pk has to guess what the warlord will do if he blocked the zone with full guard.

 

[Red Hood MKX]

Just his full guard options. The pk has to guess what the warlord will do if he blocked the zone with full guard.

But even if warlord blocked the zone attack with full guard he cant guarantee punish it pk is too plus after zone attack

 

[Basic Stupidity]

But even if warlord blocked the zone attack with full guard he cant guarantee punish it pk is too plus after zone attack

Well yes but that's better than any other character. All the other characters only option is to guess party it

 

[Red Hood MKX]

Well yes but that's better than any other character. All the other characters only option is to guess party it

But if that is the only reason why warlord beats pk then no warlord doesnt beat pk. First you would have to guess or predict when the zone would comes out because its no way you can react to it or see it coming while im guessing im using stamina that warlord desperately needs against pk. I think pk beats warlord or its a even match up with a slight edge to pk

 

[Basic Stupidity]

I'm heated, all the shitters in this community made gamebattles think it was a good idea to ban pk from the console tourneys. That's it I'm picking up conq this is bullshit.

 

[Red Hood MKX]

I'm heated, all the shitters in this community made gamebattles think it was a good idea to ban pk from the console tourneys. That's it I'm picking up conq this is bullshit.

WTF you cant ban pk without banning all the other top tiers that doesn't make any sense