What is wrong with Injustice 2 (and NRS games)

[HateMe!]

but at least they deliver a complete game at launch

boi...

Did you forget how fucked up PC release was?

 

[Cobainevermind87]

boi...

Did you forget how fucked up PC release was?

Nope. I first bought it on pc because I'm an idiot. Mem leaks, crashes out the ass. Then for XB1, then when my xbox died on me I got it for PS4. But I almost feel we're at the point nowadays where we almost have to expect those kinds of things when we're talking about games designed for consoles being ported over to pc. It sucks to say, but the pc community is but a blip on their radar

 

[KingHippo]

Thats not what im talking about. Im talking about when someone takes the time to write a detailed and thoughtful post about their opinion hoping to spark good discussion and people dont even give it the time of day because he is not a top player

I can't speak for everyone, but I know I was annoyed moreso by the lack of solid info (unaware that Quan has a gap in rune if delayed to be plus, citing advantage on block mixups of which there are very few, unaware of gaps in supergirl's offense, etc.) then the balance stuff.

I do think it comes across the wrong way when you word the post as if to say "if these games weren't so bad I'd play them," then cite your resume as if that makes you more right. Stuff like that means you're less interested in discussion and more so condemnation. Which will be met with vitriol because, shocker, ppl don't like being told what they are playing is crap.

I would have said this to any body who came in swinging with poor info and an ego.

As for the balance thing, I think being in favour of making all chars kinda weak is what sfv is, and you can look at how well received that is right now as an example of how not to make a quality title.

 

[HateMe!]

Nope. I first bought it on pc because I'm an idiot. Mem leaks, crashes out the ass. Then for XB1, then when my xbox died on me I got it for PS4. But I almost feel we're at the point nowadays where we almost have to expect those kinds of things when we're talking about games designed for consoles being ported over to pc. It sucks to say, but the pc community is but a blip on their radar

So you expect that you'll get an unfinished product that's labeled as a full release? Jesus.
That's exactly why NRS can keep producing shitty games and nothing will change.

 

[Cobainevermind87]

So you expect that you'll get an unfinished product that's labeled as a full release? Jesus.
That's exactly why NRS can keep producing shitty games and nothing will change.

Unfinished is not the same as having unexpected technical issues.

And NRS/High Voltage are not the first devs to screw up porting a console game to PC.

 

[HateMe!]

Unfinished is not the same as having unexpected technical issues.

And NRS/High Voltage are not the first devs to screw up porting a console game to PC.

'unexpected' seriously? Do you think they had no idea how shitty the game was on release?
So what they're not the first devs? It's still unacceptable.
So you're fine when you order a burger and get a bun and some ketchup, because it's not the first restaurant to screw up?

 

[Cobainevermind87]

'unexpected' seriously? Do you think they had no idea how shitty the game was on release?
So what they're not the first devs? It's still unacceptable.
So you're fine when you order a burger and get a bun and some ketchup, because it's not the first restaurant to screw up?

Lol. You're right, they released their game on Steam knowing it was broken and waited for all the support tickets to come pouring in and then laughed about it over some cold ones.

I'm done. You're comparing re-coding shit to making a burger. What I get for putting in my 2 cents

 

[MagicMan357]

You know form studying peoples patterns when it comes to NRS i realized sometime ago they literally can not win no matter what they do. So many times its been proven their games are UN-conventional and will never be "Normal", yet i always find a way around all this so called BS that makes it unplayable. Unless its actually game breaking, its laughable at best. Its as bad as capcom fanboys still complaining about the animations when the final product always runs way better smh. Somebody even said MKX is clunky? LMFAOOO

 

[dribirut]

Only problem is scrubby as fuck characters like super girl:

So I have to take a ridiculous 9frame advancing mid with a low. Since second hit is a low, I'm stuck blocking low as she can just walk back.

Then on block I have to guess if she's going to:
A) stagger f12
B) f12 laser for plus frames
C) breath
1) then guess if she's going to rekka
2) mb for plus frames
D) cancel into mb teleport

Then has very good zoning and I have to keep walking to her for fear of oh tele..

Smh nrs never change

 

[Rude]

If Sonic Fox or Scar made a thread exactly like this the very same people who are blowing up Belial would be praising Sonic and Scar and telling them how right they are and how much they agree. It is like you are not allowed to have an opinion around here without getting blown up for it by the majority of the community unless you are one of the top 5-10 players in the world. I personally agree with much of what was said in the OP. He may over generalize (specifically over stating the amount of plus 50/50s in the current build of MKX) but most of his points are right on.

People that disagree with the OP confirmed dick riders and not people with their own opinions. Lol k.

 

[Rude]

Only problem is scrubby as fuck characters like super girl:

So I have to take a ridiculous 9frame advancing mid with a low. Since second hit is a low, I'm stuck blocking low as she can just walk back.

Then on block I have to guess if she's going to:
A) stagger f12
B) f12 laser for plus frames
C) breath
1) then guess if she's going to rekka
2) mb for plus frames
D) cancel into mb teleport

Then has very good zoning and I have to keep walking to her for fear of oh tele..

Smh nrs never change

It's almost like you're playing an incomplete version of the game or something....

 

[xZoro]

I'll never understand why threads like this continue to be made and exist.

You can back up whatever point you make with whatever argument you deem necessary. None of it will ever come to fruition due to the post you made, and, quite frankly, it's legitimately tedious at this point.

What you end up with is essentially that one ASDF movie where the 2 guys just make noise at each others faces. It looks bad, not just as an insider who plays NRS games, but i'm sure outsiders think so too.

'Lol these guys moan about fucking everything'. And while, yes OP did at least try and articulate themselves well, (credit where it's due) the thread is literally nothing that's never been posted before. It's like rubbing your dogs nose in a shit from 4 days ago.

In short, this thread is pointless.

 

[dribirut]

It's almost like you're playing an incomplete version of the game or something....

Haha true but knowing nrs

 

[Barrogh]

It's almost like you're playing an incomplete version of the game or something....

It's like we don't have a number of complete games by NRS to see where this is going.

 

[Rude]

It's like we don't have a number of complete games by NRS to see where this is going.

Because every game is exactly the same, lol.

 

[trufenix]

Because every game is exactly the same, lol.

Ironically, he's right. It's clear from their past few games NRS doesn't want to make MK9 again.

 

[Rude]

Ironically, he's right. It's clear from their past few games NRS doesn't want to make MK9 again.

Each game has improved from MK9 in terms of balance, as far as I'm concerned and it's not like they haven't listened to the community.

No game is perfect.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

I would like to recommend this thread being closed. It is purely subjective and antagonizing. The OP made some good posts but it turned to non-sense.

I think there is a more constructive way to offer feedback about elements we do not like. I WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT... EVERYONE FROM THIS SITE USUALLY SPEAKS FROM A TOURNAMENT PLAYER PERSPECTIVE AND IGNORES THE CASUAL BASE WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF THE SALES. A lot of the factors that I really can't stand are there to appeal to casuals so they buy the game and DLC. Its a business. Whether we like it or not the Tournament community is not the reason NRS makes these games. We are a platform and a form of advertising for them.

 

[SM StarGazer]

I vote to keep this thread open.



Spawn..

 

[Matix218]

I would like to recommend this thread being closed. It is purely subjective and antagonizing. The OP made some good posts but it turned to non-sense.

I think there is a more constructive way to offer feedback about elements we do not like. I WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT... EVERYONE FROM THIS SITE USUALLY SPEAKS FROM A TOURNAMENT PLAYER PERSPECTIVE AND IGNORES THE CASUAL BASE WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF THE SALES. A lot of the factors that I really can't stand are there to appeal to casuals so they buy the game and DLC. Its a business. Whether we like it or not the Tournament community is not the reason NRS makes these games. We are a platform and a form of advertising for them.

We are probably like .01% of their total game sales to be honest. But casual players do pay more and more attention to the competative community these days and I believe it is growing (especially with improved accessibility with things like ESL)

 

[Linkuei82]

Could be worse. Could pay $60 for a shell of a game upon release (SFV anyone?). You also don't have to pay to upgrade to newer versions of the same game. Wonder how many editions of SFV there will end up being. NRS might not be perfect when it comes to balance, but at least they deliver a complete game at launch and don't keep nickel and diming you throughout the game's life cycle.

Lol yes they do. KP1 and 2? Had to pay for that. It's the same thing SFV is doing with season 1 and 2. The same thing with KI seasons. Want more costumes? They all do it. Not once has NRS made a game and the rest of the DLC content was free.

 

[Rocket]

censorship

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Lol yes they do. KP1 and 2? Had to pay for that. It's the same thing SFV is doing with season 1 and 2. The same thing with KI seasons. Want more costumes? They all do it. Not once has NRS made a game and the rest of the DLC content was free.

KI wasn't $60 at launch, though. I think the idea with the other games is that you pay more if you want the new content as it's introduced.

What got people angry with SFV was being a full-price game at launch.

MKX, even before KP1, had a complete suite of content and modes. In fact, MKX before any kombat packs would still be considered more complete than SFV is now.

 

[KingHippo]

Lol close the thread? Okay, Trump.

 

[Linkuei82]

KI wasn't $60 at launch, though. I think the idea with the other games is that you pay more if you want the new content as it's introduced.

What got people angry with SFV was being a full-price game at launch.

MKX, even before KP1, had a complete suite of content and modes. In fact, MKX before any kombat packs would still be considered more complete than SFV is now.

Right. But from the poster comment at the end, he made it seem like you don't pay anything else during the games lifetime after purchasing it. Which is not true. He made it seem like SFV is the only game that makes you pay for additional content after buying the game.