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General/Other - Pyromancer Why Tanya has potential BEST zoning in new Meta of the game.

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
You must be trolling us, try fight Cossners Sektor get beat then say she stands a chance, then go play Scars Smoke get beat and then come here and say she has a chance, atleast those 2 characters are 7 / 3 her.
Once again another fool is doubting my Tanya, i've played scars smoke, and Cossners Sektor with Kobu Jutsu in an offline set, he won 2-3, I was Kobu Jutsu when everyone swore she was bad, and no no... no trolling here, you are just another TYM'er that doubts Tanya's potential , have a nice day, I won't be entertaining you anymore
 

ragnar0kz28

Kombatant
Once again another fool is doubting my Tanya, i've played scars smoke, and Cossners Sektor with Kobu Jutsu in an offline set, he won 2-3, I was Kobu Jutsu when everyone swore she was bad, and no no... no trolling here, you are just another TYM'er that doubts Tanya's potential , have a nice day, I won't be entertaining you anymore
we are talking about PYRO, in this thread not Kobu, you lost an offline set agains Dragons Kitana, still saying its 6/4 its blasphemy, some numbers are very VERY off. Thats why I say for an online chart its ok, online eats recovery frames so Pyro can get away with murder in ocations.

PD: this whole chart is pure entertainment considering I used to play Pyro :D
 

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
we are talking about PYRO, in this thread not Kobu, you lost an offline set agains Dragons Kitana, still saying its 6/4 its bla
The best thing that will come from this thread is people getting pyro MU knowledge.

Because honestly the number of people that know the MU are very slim.

Maybe people will finally figure out some things about her. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And this is exactly why people should stop doubting her skill and stop saying that she doesn't have real stuff, no one should come in here and trash talk, and then get bopped 30-0 lmao, no it doesn't work like that
 

D7X

EMPEROR | D7X
Think you missed Noxious?
Anyway, I feel Pyromancer vs. Reptile is potentially 7-3 in Tanya's favor. Elaborate on it?
 

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
Think you missed Noxious?
Anyway, I feel Pyromancer vs. Reptile is potentially 7-3 in Tanya's favor. Elaborate on it?
Tanya beats Noxious Deceptive and Nimble because Tanya's mobility is just too much for him to cope with. Slow or Fast Acid balls and spit can all be low profiled by her using one special move, all reptile can do is try to dash in, but that's hard considering what pyro can do with dust and such :)
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Tanya beats Noxious Deceptive and Nimble because Tanya's mobility is just too much for him to cope with. Slow or Fast Acid balls and spit can all be low profiled by her using one special move, all reptile can do is try to dash in, but that's hard considering what pyro can do with dust and such :)
Agreed on that. The low profile wouldn't be so bad if she didn't switch sides on hit as well, so she cleanly clears them, whereas like Sub has to be careful when he slides because he can simply be hit by mistiming slide on a forceball because he stops too close. Tanya just keeps going and just LOLs.

Also, the teleporting is an issue for Reptile to handle just because she keeps some momentum going and you can't cleanly AA her all the time. And if they're mixing it in with IA teleports, combined with IA fireballs, IA teleports into fireballs, etc. It's shit like that that, honestly, I've always thought was way more effective than people actually give credit for because they themselves simply don't do it well enough. Not trying to bash on any Tanya players that do disagree with anything Revet presents, just saying, it's options and playstyles that could be way better than given credit for, but no one else is really doing them.

Take my opinion with 3.14 grains of salt, though. Just basing it on ideologies on the sets vs any Pyromancers I've played.
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
Why are people using Dragon beating him 3-2 as a talking point, when he beat Starcharger 3-0 in the same pool?

Double standards or are you guys saying Starcharger is shit lol?

Does Starcharger need to 30-0 some bums too?
Doesn't starcharger use assassin and not royal storm? Serious question.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Revet does so many things, that I've seen work on Sonic, Scar, Dragon, that the Tanya community on here will swear up and down aren't real.

Like run cancelling F3 into B3, then letting the F3 rip.

Maybe I have Bobby Hill reactions, but I've played Revet a ton, and I can't react to or fuzzy that shit lol.

Not only are you playing Revet who is a very good player, you're playing a version of a character that you've been told by this downplaying community, does not exist. There's no such thing as fuzzying that mix up in real life.

That's why I hate all of the Cyrax and CSZ downplaying. Cyrax has real dirt, that is being discovered slowly but surely. Am I supposed to get hit by that and be like "well madeofmetal told me that Cyrax has nothing so I just suck"?

Cyber Sub Zero is impossible to zone, has great mobility, mix ups, can make his mix ups safe and launching with a bar, is one of the best answers to Ermac, etc. His HTB aren't anywhere close to guaranteed so he sucks? Please breh please.
That's not why people think those characters struggle. I don't think they are bad (Cyrax and CSZ), they're actually pretty good. They got the mix but their neutral is suspect.
 

dribirut

BLAK FELOW
Tanya beats Noxious Deceptive and Nimble because Tanya's mobility is just too much for him to cope with. Slow or Fast Acid balls and spit can all be low profiled by her using one special move, all reptile can do is try to dash in, but that's hard considering what pyro can do with dust and such :)
I have no idea about the mu, but would like to play it and find out. Are you down?
 

EdenianWarrior

Kombatant
f3 into cancel is sworn to be a gimmick for some odd reason, it's so real even in her other variations not just pyro. However the "gimmick" works most in pyro and leads to crazy damage, as some people would say "Tanya's damage is garbage" okay so one bar if I land the over head it is 46%, with the low it'll be 40% now idk if this damage is considered bad? But I sure as hell think it's a good amount of damage for a character that has the best mobility in the game, top 3 zoning, and crazy mixup game, the reason why i'm 30-0'ing these people on here is because simply, they DIDNT know what Tanya can do, they took the words of TYM and came up with the conclusion that Tanya is bad and doesn't exist. This is why after the sets both of them said the exact same thing lmao, "You were doing different stuff I didnt know she can do"
The damage is only good in the corner though.
 

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
Lol take your ritalin.

I literally wrote "their neutral is suspect". They have low profiling issues, lack a great mid, have several crushingly bad matchups, being able to mix doesn't really change that.
Who is "they" lmao? Just be honest with yourself and admit that you fell into the death trap of tym that Tanya sucks
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Who is "they" lmao? Just be honest with yourself and admit that you fell into the death trap of tym that Tanya sucks
I said cyrax and csz, Tanya is fine. Maybe you misinterpreted what I typed or your weird fetish/boner you have for Tanya just got you triggered because you thought I said she was bad? Tanya is a very good character, Cyrax and CSZ are pretty okay.