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trufenix

bye felicia
Jynks said:
um.. wasn't the bonus like 70 grand?
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Honestly, the $ amount doesn't matter. It's still that much more money than our players would have for nothing more than showing off their game in the competitive spotlight.

... but right on cue, here's someone to remind us its not a big announcement unless its characters or a patch;

ismael4790 said:
A pot bonus for a tournament would not be something BIG for mkx. That would only affect a part of the competitive scene.

Something big involves a patch (almost sure, because he has teased it with the polls) or kp3 (less likely), or new season of esl.
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It's weird that you say a balance patch or esl would be big, but a pot bonus for an upcoming tourney is not. Both announcements "only" affect the competitive scene.
 
Youphemism

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
trufenix said:
At this point, people have just assumed ed boon is making an announcement at every damned tournament. Half the internet is still convinced he promised some EVO announcement and then "cheated" us out of it with a measley pot bonus.
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I've had fun answering the multitudes of "What was the announcement at EVO?" and "What happened to the announcement at EVO????" questions from casuals. Oh and the people asking me "Why would they announce a pot bonus at evo?" when I said that the evo announcement was related to evo (ie the pot bonus announcement which came an hour later) and not happening at evo like they assumed. I've no idea where the sudden naivety came from lol.
ismael4790 said:
A pot bonus for a tournament would not be something BIG for mkx. That would only affect a part of the competitive scene.

Something big involves a patch (almost sure, because he has teased it with the polls) or kp3 (less likely), or new season of esl.
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Uh yes it would. A £10,000 pot bonus is BIG. Tournament mode was big news for Injustice 2 and only really affected tournament players. Plus neither of us know what Ed considers big news anyway, can't just assume things.

I mean that's you whittling it down to just what you want it to be lol. There's a lot of things that would be big for MKXL, those are only a few of them.
 
Gooberking

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
trufenix said:
Honestly, the $ amount doesn't matter. It's still that much more money than our players would have for nothing more than showing off their game in the competitive spotlight.

... but right on cue, here's someone to remind us its not a big announcement unless its characters or a patch;



It's weird that you say a balance patch or esl would be big, but a pot bonus for an upcoming tourney is not. Both announcements "only" affect the competitive scene.
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I don't really think that is true. A pot bonus is not only scoped entirely to the tournament scene, but even further to a handful of guys that have shown they always end up at the top. A shot at a chunk of change is big news to those guys, but there aren't many of them comparatively speaking - even when talking about general entrants. Out of the 700 at EVO, how many people would any of us really expect at having a genuine shot at breaking into the pot money? 10? 15? 20?

A patch may not be something everyone can see benefit from, but it definitely impacts a much larger group of people. It directly affects everyone at every tournament. They all care about it, and it even matters to the enthusiast crowd. People like me who can't really MK good enough to compete, but still are quite invested in the game. I understood what it meant to have Cassie lose her armor on ex flip. I also understood that I didn't care because brawler was getting armor on her command grabs. I've applied that knowledge at home in random fights. I understand patches, and I'm not competitive. I don't know how big my group is, but it + the competitive scene has got to be a bigger number than the competitive scene alone.

You could say feeding the scene with money so there is a show to watch counts for something, but it's starting to get existential, and I think a lot of people want something more tangible than that. If you want the entire public hype over something (Twitter and all that) it needs to be for the entire public. At this point tournament money is a fine thing, but it doesn't feel like news and it's not tangible to the masses, so I think feeling that another prize pot announcement is something different than "big news" is valid.

*forever the typo king
 
Youphemism

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
If you don't think the community getting another £10,000 is big news I don't know what to tell you. Let's just wait and see what he says :)
 
chrisisnice

chrisisnice

I'm a lover, not a fighter
Gooberking said:
I don't really think that is true. A pot bonus is not only scoped entirely to the tournament scene, but even further to a handful of guys that have shown they always end up at the top. A shot at a chunk of change is big news to those guys, but there aren't many of them comparatively speaking - even when talking about general entrants. Out of the 700 at EVO, how many people would any of us really expect at having a genuine shot at breaking into the pot money? 10? 15? 20?

A patch may not be something everyone can see benefit from, but it definitely impacts a much larger group of people. It directly affects everyone at every tournament. They all care about it, and it even matters to the enthusiast crowd. People like me who can't really MK good enough to compete, but still are quite invested in the game. I understood what it meant to have Cassie lose her armor on ex flip. I also understood that I didn't care because brawler was getting armor on her command grabs. I've applied that knowledge at home in random fights. I understand patches, and I'm not competitive. I don't know how big my group is, but it + the competitive scene has got to be a bigger number than the competitive scene alone.

You could say feeding the scene with money so there is a show to watch counts for something, but it's starting to get existential, and I think a lot of people want something more tangible than that. If you want the entire public hype over something (Twitter and all that) it needs to be for the entire public. At this point tournament money is a fine thing, but it doesn't feel like news and it's not tangible to the masses, so I think feeling that another prize pot announcement is something different than "big news" is valid.

*forever the typo king
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Great response and 100% true

Pot bonuses are nice but actual tangible difference to the game is bigger news as it affects more people. Lets face reality and realise that 5% of people (being VERY generous) who own the game give a crap about competitive MKX and pot bonuses and as Goober said, there are only a handful of players who had a chance of getting it. More people who own the game care about new content - if you don't see that, you are out of touch.

I like watching competitive MKX myself and I'm not saying pot bonuses are not great - they are, but they do not affect the overwhelming majority of people and therefore not "big news" in the real world.
 
Johnny Based Cage

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
Are some of you out of your goddamned minds? Multi-thousand dollar pot bonuses ARE big news for the game in general that affect the community at large because they add incentive for everyone to get good and compete. Whether or not it only actually ends up getting a handful of new people off the couch (or even really only affects one single member of the entire community bc nobody can beat fuckin Sonic Fox for that cash anyway), it's still big news that the developer of these games is throwing that much cash behind them these days.
 
Saltea Moonspell

Saltea Moonspell

"Mind Over Matter" I dont mind, and X dont matter
Now I can understand about feeding us with bit of information on a new product. But I dont really understand whats with the secrecy with MKXL update. I dont really see a point in such approach.
 
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trufenix

bye felicia
ROG Moonspell said:
Now I can understand about feeding us with bit of information on a new product. But I dont really understand whats with the secrecy with MKXL update. I dont really see a point in such approach.
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The point is MKX is over a year old and its still on the tip of everyone's tongue even though nothing, literally nothing has been released or revealed for it in almost six months.

In short, Ed Boon is a diabolical genius.
 
Gooberking

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
trufenix said:
Oh no, I get it. You guys think there's some weird tier rankings between cool / big / swarthy / jumbo / bug type announcements. It's cute.

Have fun being disappointed.
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It should be more to the effect of small/news, medium/good, and large/big with GGPO being "big" news. But "good" is never good enough so everything is amazing, there is literally no longer a word that literally means literally, and when people really, really, REALLY need to express how ridiculous something is they have to throw their hands up in the air and say something about how it's redonkulous. Language is supposed to be tiered.

Honestly though, I don't see why validating alternative interpretations of what constitutes "big news" has to be a big deal, and why would someone calling pot bonus #10 "good news" not be acceptable? (I do realize we aren't at #10)

Expecting the entire MKXL user base to forever view the same kind of announcement that effects the same subset of the group in the exact same way, and has no lasting tangible value, and never answers the question "what about my group?" (because big news is subjective and personal) is its own kind of recipe for disappointment. I guess in this way, we can all be disappointed together.

Anyway, we don't really know what the news is or what to call it yet.
 
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