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Trauma_and_Pain

Filthy Casual
Ferra torr:
Ex db4 removed
There is no such move, but I guess you meant db2. For Ruthless, I'd be okay with that, he doesn't even need it. But I think Vicious should keep it. His punishes and ability to convert meter into damage were bad before ex Ferra Toss.

true but for a lot of characters it's rough to get a full punish. With kitana for example I can't consistantly punish it because if it's spaced from far enough away standing 2 can't punish it.
But you're suggesting to make Sub's OH super negative just because Kitana is perhaps unable to punish it, even though many characters can punish it. You're Kitana, you'll be fine. You still get to take your turn, which seems fair to me. Lots of characters have safe OH starters.
 

errormacro7

Official Sonya simp
I've talked to few members of Khaotic for XBOX and Kinetic for XBOX and they have agreed that Sonya's a good character but what she does is limited to the what the player has learned. Essentially meaning, she's a situational character that's only boosted by how good a player are undamentally. Scar is a fundamentally sound character and the only reason why he did so well is because of how good he is at a more advanced level of the games mechanics.

You're "troll" posts aren't doing anything but exposing the hive-mentality that TYM has developed over the past 3-4 years and have "relished" in. This is my last post so don't reply (or if you do reply, know I won't be replying back because it's pointless to argue with someone who's ignoring simple facts.)
I remember that time when Jacqui was considered low tier and you kept arguing with all of us that she was top 10, and Kitana, who was and still is pretty damn good, was shit. So don't think that mentioning members from those clans to back you up gives you credibility because you don't have any.
 

gam224

The world's least hype player
Can you not punish with ass in royal storm? Idk but minus 13 is enough for you to start your offense. Midscreen he will only get 16-22. In the corner he gets 24 if he wants a guaranteed re clone(he can't combo the tiny girls), and in the 30s off of a shatter on a female hit box, and no armor break set up because he ends shatters in 112 on females. This is a devastating force to be reckoned with for Kitana and as you said if his spacing isn't on point; he will get stand 2 punished. So yeah that's my two cents on why B2 is fine, you're welcome to your opinion.
let's leave it at that. Best of luck
 

gam224

The world's least hype player
There is no such move, but I guess you meant db2. For Ruthless, I'd be okay with that, he doesn't even need it. But I think Vicious should keep it. His punishes and ability to convert meter into damage were bad before ex Ferra Toss.


But you're suggesting to make Sub's OH super negative just because Kitana is perhaps unable to punish it, even though many characters can punish it. You're Kitana, you'll be fine. You still get to take your turn, which seems fair to me. Lots of characters have safe OH starters.
Yes buy that is something that needs to be changed, it's pretty good reward for little risk.
 

Trauma_and_Pain

Filthy Casual
Sonya's a good character but what she does is limited to the what the player has learned.
You mean just like every other variation in the game?

Scar is a fundamentally sound character and the only reason why he did so well is because of how good he is at a more advanced level of the games mechanics.
So what you're claiming is that it can't possibly be that Sonya is top tier. Sonya's definitely just "okay". Just sort of "decent", but not that great and not top tier, and that Scar's success has nothing to do with Sonya, but purely because he's not only a top-tier player, but he's like God-tier, far above everyone else.

He must have superhuman reflexes allowing him to react within a few frames, or perhaps he's using performance-enhancing drugs, or is slightly psychic, being able to predict mixups--since presumably, if you're using an average character, that's what it would take to beat top-tier players who use top-tier characters?

Damn. Could you imagine how good Scar would be if he actually used a great character? He'd probably just 13-0 SonicFox. Wonder why he hasn't thought of that yet, especially since Sonya is actually harder to master than probably any of the top-tier characters.
 

Captain l2ed

White wolf
Personally I think kano is fine. A nerf would make him bad and a buff sends him over the edge. He's good I'm not going to downplay but he's not as good as you all make him out to be. He hasn't won anything.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Personally I think kano is fine. A nerf would make him bad and a buff sends him over the edge. He's good I'm not going to downplay but he's not as good as you all make him out to be. He hasn't won anything.
He's already over the edge. I don't think nerfing plus on block 50/50s would put cutthroat in the garbage.
 
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Captain l2ed

White wolf
He's already over the edge. I don't think beefing plus on block 50/50s would put cutthroat in the garbage.
He's not over the edge when compared to other characters. He's good where has at. If alien, shaolin, a-list and piercing can rock then so should CT. He would be over if his low was better. He'll stay where he's at, he won't be touched.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
He's not over the edge when compared to other characters. He's good where has at. If alien, shaolin, a-list and piercing can rock then so should CT. He would be over if his low was better. He'll stay where he's at, he won't be touched.
Yeah I know he won't be touched. All those characters should get changed. If one goes then they all go, but he isn't fair.
 

Captain l2ed

White wolf
Yeah I know he won't be touched. All those characters should get changed. If one goes then they all go, but he isn't fair.
We'll agree to disagree. Kano is a lot more fair than any other "top tier". His low is slow,ex up kano ball is fast and armored but its only good as a wake up and ex kano ball cancel will get you as much damage as anyone else who spends a bar. Why hasn't anyone talked about how kotal is safe or plus on most strings but kano is unfair? Shaolin can cancel into up and down kick and be safe. But I appreciate your opinion. #foreverdownplaying and #foreverupplaying
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
We'll agree to disagree. Kano is a lot more fair than any other "top tier". His low is slow,ex up kano ball is fast and armored but its only good as a wake up and ex kano ball cancel will get you as much damage as anyone else who spends a bar. Why hasn't anyone talked about how kotal is safe or plus on most strings but kano is unfair? Shaolin can cancel into up and down kick and be safe. But I appreciate your opinion. #foreverdownplaying and #foreverupplaying
Because Kotal doesn't have safe launching 50/50s, and Shaolin doesn't hit near as hard and isn't as plus(or plus at all for that matter on Shaolin drop). And yeah he is just as BS as other top tiers so it should just be him if he was to get nerfed it would only be fair if they all did.
 

Captain l2ed

White wolf
Because Kotal doesn't have safe launching 50/50s, and Shaolin doesn't hit near as hard and isn't as plus(or plus at all for that matter on Shaolin drop). And yeah he is just as BS as other top tiers so it should just be him if he was to get nerfed it would only be fair if they all did.
Shaolin is safe on up. If he starts to do something unsafe, what's that? Chakra toss. Oh, what's that? Guessed wrong on that 50/50? 32% and up.
everybody will always downplay and upplay characters they like and don't like. This whole thread including my post is toxic.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Shaolin is safe on up. If he starts to do something unsafe, what's that? Chakra toss. Oh, what's that? Guessed wrong on that 50/50? 32% and up.
everybody will always downplay and upplay characters they like and don't like. This whole thread including my post is toxic.
I can agree that this is becoming toxic and I am partly to blame. I'm not gonna open that can of worms.