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Your top 10 and bottom 10

Luke KB

Noob
I've been trying to get a good idea of a more up to date tier list (since eventhubs is total garbage).
So let's hear it, what's you're top ten and bottom ten variations?
 

DDutchguy

Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
Top 10:

1: Raiden obviously
2: Mileena
3: Johnny Cage
4: Takeda
5-10: D'vorah, Kano, Shinnok, Kung Jin, Jax, Sonya, Alien, Liu Kang, Kotal Kahn, Ferra/Torr, Leatherface. All of these characters are really good and deserve a mention in a top tier list for having at least 1 really good variation.

Bottom 10:

1: Raiden obviously
2: Unbreakable
3: Balanced
4: Fisticuffs
5: High-Tech
6: Cyber Scrub Zero
7-10: Hat Trick (?), Slasher (?), Brood Mother (?), Metallic (?). The last 4 characters are still decent enough (fuck you Wang :DOGE) so calling them bottom tier sounds a bit wrong to me.
 

VSC_Supreme

TYM's #1 L taker.
Do we need another variation of this thread?

We've had multiple of them in the past couple weeks, and you can get a general idea of who people think are the top and bottom just by reading them.
 

DarkFire*

Your halo is mine.
There's like 20+ variations that could all be top 10 lol. Coming up with a bottom 10 is also hard because almost every character is good. Honestly the only characters I can think of off the top of my head that only have 'OK' at best variations instead of at least one very good one is Raiden, Tanya, and Kenshi
 
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TOP 10 variations: no order BUTTOM 10 variations:
  • SR Takeda---------------------------------------------Slasher Jason
  • A-List Cage--------------------------------------------Unbreakable Sub Zero
  • Piercing Mileena--------------------------------------High Tech Jacqui
  • Acidick Alien-------------------------------------------DN Tanya
  • Swarm Queen Dvorah------------------------------Cybernetic Kano
  • Demolition Sonya------------------------------------Balanced Kenshi
  • DF Liu Kang-------------------------------------------Fisticuffs Cage
  • Shaolin Kung Jin--------------------------------------Commando Kano
  • Wrestler Jax--------------------------------------------Ancestral Kung Jin
  • Ronin Takeda------------------------------------------Master of Storms Raiden
 

DDutchguy

Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
TOP 10 variations: no order BUTTOM 10 variations:
  • SR Takeda Slasher Jason
  • A-List Cage Unbreakable Sub Zero
  • Piercing Mileena High Tech Jacqui
  • Acidick Alien DN Tanya
  • Swarm Queen Dvorah Cybernetic Kano
  • Demolition Sonya Balanced Kenshi
  • DF Liu Kang Fisticuffs Cage
  • Shaolin Kung Jin Commando Kano
  • Wrestler Jax Ancestral Kung Jin
  • Ronin Takeda Master of Storms Raiden
Not sure about Commando being bottom 10. There hasn't been much rant from the Kano community as of late so Commando must be doing pretty alright post-buffs. And the buffs were quite sexy indeed.
 

the.hamburglar

Alien keeps me up at night
TOP 10 variations: no order BUTTOM 10 variations:
  • SR Takeda Slasher Jason
  • A-List Cage Unbreakable Sub Zero
  • Piercing Mileena High Tech Jacqui
  • Acidick Alien DN Tanya
  • Swarm Queen Dvorah Cybernetic Kano
  • Demolition Sonya Balanced Kenshi
  • DF Liu Kang Fisticuffs Cage
  • Shaolin Kung Jin Commando Kano
  • Wrestler Jax Ancestral Kung Jin
  • Ronin Takeda Master of Storms Raiden
finally someone who believes Kang is still top 10
 
Not sure about Commando being bottom 10. There hasn't been much rant from the Kano community as of late so Commando must be doing pretty alright post-buffs. And the buffs were quite sexy indeed.
I put him here because there is no poin in using him if you like him go pick Wrestler Jax hes 10 times better.


finally someone who believes Kang is still top 10
Yes hes still very good and solid.
 

the.hamburglar

Alien keeps me up at night
Guys, since were on the topic, Why is leatherface not on the top 10 list. Ive been playing him and in killer, i know he doesnt have a projectile but why isnt he top 10 besides that
Edit : the only reasons i can think are his cancels arent plus but they dont take stamina and no projectile. He has a strong anti air and his pokes arent bad. Good damage off a bar and even without one. Im sure theres armor breaking setups while using a bar
 

RiBBz22

TYM's Confirmed Prophet/Time-Traveler
Top 10:

1: Raiden obviously
2: Mileena
3: Johnny Cage
4: Takeda
5-10: D'vorah, Kano, Shinnok, Kung Jin, Jax, Sonya, Alien, Liu Kang, Kotal Kahn, Ferra/Torr, Leatherface. All of these characters are really good and deserve a mention in a top tier list for having at least 1 really good variation.

Bottom 10:

1: Raiden obviously
2: Unbreakable
3: Balanced
4: Fisticuffs
5: High-Tech
6: Cyber Scrub Zero
7-10: Hat Trick (?), Slasher (?), Brood Mother (?), Metallic (?). The last 4 characters are still decent enough (fuck you Wang :DOGE) so calling them bottom tier sounds a bit wrong to me.
Wrong, Cyber Sub Zero is not a character in the current game so naturally should not show up on any of these lists.
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
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7-10: Hat Trick (?), Slasher (?), Brood Mother (?), Metallic (?). The last 4 characters are still decent enough (fuck you Wang :DOGE) so calling them bottom tier sounds a bit wrong to me.
You can tell me to fuck off 100 times, won't change the fact that i'm right, Hat Trick would be a great variation if worked properly, unfortunately aside of not working properly still got a bunch of stealth nerfs.


Anyone willing to feel sad, just pick HT and play, he is worse than Jason Slasher for sure.
 

Luke KB

Noob
First off, thanks for the quick fees back guys.
Second off, i'm new to the TYM forums and I'm not familiar with the layout. I've been trying to find a teir list for weeks and got fed-up with finding nothing but the eventhub garbage.
Sorry if this is an annoyingly common topic.
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Does anybody focus on strategy & leveling up anymore? I'd bet any top play would body more than half of us with the so called "bottom 5".
Try this: You spend a bar to get a combo, second hit who is supposed to be guaranteed after the first one connects sometimes will be randomly blocked after the first one connects.
Sometimes you spend a bar to win a trade, your character gets stucked in the ground after you win a trade.
You launch someone on a right read, you won't get a combo because the juggle float most of the time is way too low, its a hard read to combo from your main launcher even on a right read.
Your pressure setup is never guaranteed and is ALWAYS super minus on block, so most of the time you can't use it
You lose 80% of your tool set every time you place a setup, including your defensive options

if you place your setup in any other direction that is not in between your opponent, you can't combo
part of your tool set is useless
The setup that should protect you for jump ins, doesn't protect your for jump ins
The trajectory of most of your traps doesn't protect you or can't even be used as traps because the trajectory is useless
your tool set is said to hit mid, but whiffs on mostly every character crouching, or crouching blocking up close
your main pressure tool is punishable by anyone with a 7f reversal so in those MU you can't even pressure, specially on mirrors


Now how would you focus on strategy and leveling up when part of your character doesn't even work properly inside the game?

I said it before, anyone that thinks they can do better with Hat Trick, pick the character and go play people that knows all these and see how it goes.