SonicFox = Potential Greatest of All Time...And We Are Living In It

[Tom Brady]

So he used KL in maybe one match at one event -- in that case, I guess DJT was a Doomsday main in Injustice.



Also, note that no one here mentioned him beating Kabal players here -- except you. This is the newest edition of 'boxing with shadows'.

Used him several times at several events. Also at ECT vs REO. Do not make me recite history because I can tell you every time and it was more then a few. Just end the MK9 talk.. EVERYONE. If anyone is arguing against him being a great player then there is no point arguing back because you're talking to an idiot.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Used him several times at several events. Also at ECT vs REO. Do not make me recite history because I can tell you every time and it was more then a few. Just end the MK9 talk.. EVERYONE. If anyone is arguing against him being a great player then there is no point arguing back because you're talking to an idiot.

So you're going to dispute the fact that Sonic played 95% Mileena during the active life of MK9? Because of a couple isolated appearances of Kung Lao? Come on man, even for you that's an enormous stretch.

Also, REO played Kung Lao at EVO 2012; so I guess you'd dispute the fact that he also played Kabal 99% of the time in tournament after picking him up.

 

[coolwhip]

Why are we even talking about Fox in MK9? For the majority of the game's life he wasn't even a top 15 player based on resume, partially because he couldn't travel much and more importantly, because he wasn't as good as fighting games as he is today. Although getting top 8 at NEC 2012 by beating some big names showed he was legit even back then.

Since then, he's went on to become far and away the best NRS player ever and by a significant margin (like honestly whoever the 2nd best NRS player is isn't even close to Fox's resume, so that says a lot).

I don't understand what people are trying to prove by bringing up MK9. Also, let's be clear, the fact that the game is supposedly "broken" is irrelevant. Everyone was playing the same broken game, so bringing that up doesn't change anything. The same people bringing up that the game is broken when Fox's name is invoked are the same people who argued for hours about PL vs. REO's resumes in that very same "broken" game, without once mentioning its "brokenness." Weird.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Perhaps you miss the key word.. CONSISTENTLY

GGA 16bit the Kabal Killer?

 

[Juggs]

In any case, he's the undisputed best NRS player ever. Arguing about MK9 or what would have happened 4 years ago in a broken game is pointless.

Best NRS player, sure. Best MK player, still goes to REO.

 

[Tom Brady]

GGA 16bit the Kabal Killer?

Yea, I heard Kitana was low tier in MK9 so you could say 16Bit for sure.

I'm intrigued. Who's a better injustice player than Sonic Fox?

Probably no one. IMO Fox was the best. HOWEVER, it is not about "skill" but accomplishments and another has the same accomplishments as Fox during the games relevancy.

* KDZ won 4 majors including 1 EVO. And for those who scream "PRE PATCH!" KDZ also defeated Fox 3 months after the final patch with post final patch Superman vs Batgirl and he beat him 2 sets at that. This was also just 30 days before Fox would go on to win FR.

* Fox also won 4 majors including 1 EVO. Even though the game died, Fox still continued to win. Some players may have practiced to take him out after he quit the game but he still beat them anyway.

Accomplishments wise KDZ and Fox basically accomplished the most out of any player. Some people care about "skill". I dont give a shit about how "good" you are. Its not about how "good" someone is but about what they do with it. Im sorry if "better" players do not accomplish as much. Accomplishments are facts, level of skill like good/bad are opinions.

Fox was the best at IGAU and its backed by FACTS. No one's opinion means more than facts. Arguing with that guy is pointless. He's just hating on Fox.

 

[jmt]

Best NRS player, sure. Best MK player, still goes to REO.

Well, if they played a set in mk9 and mkx right now fox would win. Hard to call him the best MK player now.

 

[coolwhip]

Best NRS player, sure. Best MK player, still goes to REO.

There's been literally 2 MK games with a legitimate competitive scene (ie a scene where people travel, practice the game extensively, learn match-ups, etc...). MK9 and MKX. Fox's accomplishments in MKX already exceed those of REO in MK9. I don't mean to diminish what REO did in MK9 one bit, but it's ridiculous to downplay Fox winning EVO and pretty much every other major MKX tournament against the most robust competitive scene for an NRS game ever because REO used to beat Shock and Tom Brady in UMK3 and MK vs. DC respectively.

 

[jmt]

Probably no one. HOWEVER.. it is not about "skill" but accomplishments.

* KDZ won 4 majors including 1 EVO. And for those who scream "PRE PATCH!" KDZ also defeated Fox 3 months after the final patch with post final patch Superman vs Batgirl and he beat him 2 sets at that.
* Fox also won 4 majors including 1 EVO.

Accomplishments wise KDZ and Fox basically accomplished the most out of any player. Some people care about "skill". I dont give a shit about how "good" you are. Its not about how "good" someone is but about what they do with it. I
m sorry if "better" players do not accomplish as much. Accomplishments are facts, level of skill like good/bad are opinions.

Great points for sure. Kdz was a beast. With that being said, right now it isn't even close. Fox 10-0s him if they play now.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Best NRS player, sure. Best MK player, still goes to REO.

No one's been as dominant in a Mortal Kombat game as Fox has. Not only does he have an EVO championship, but he's won nearly everything else that matters. Starting at Day -1, no less.

And he's done it without sticking to characters that 8-2 half the cast. Imo there shouldn't be any question.

 

[CarlosOceano]

I agree entirely, but I thought he would have done better against Tokido. However, I noticed that he seemed to play with no fear of Tokido whatsoever(he'd have to tell me if I'm misreading or not, but that's how it appeared to me). Like, have you ever noticed how our other American players seem to get nervous playing against Japanese players sometimes? It's subtle shit and then not so subtle, like second guessing their strategy(scared to take risks visibly on screen) or being too aggressive when they should play defense, and taking deep breaths after a big win or getting down after a close or big loss. Sonic doesn't do that(at least I haven't seen it). He has fun. He takes risks, and he is a sponge of in-game information, analysis, and player habits.

I just thought he was going to be stronger against Tokido. And I've never expected that from any other of our capcom players. The thing I worry about is can Sonic play defensively when the situation calls for it, and even settle for time overs when necessary? He likes aggressive play, but V is a mish-mash of offense and defense, and America always likes to rush down instead of chipping away and protecting a lead. There were times where Tokido just sat in crouch block doing nothing, knowing Fang had nothing to force Ryu to act. That's always been one thing that led me to play MK2 over SF2 in the arcades: you had to do stuff or eat chip(not just gray life). That's why focus attack gave SF4 a MK feel to me.

I would like to see Sonic play Cammy, Bison or Nash, in addition to Fang.

Tokido himself told sonicfox that they ran a topanga league special on SF's FANG because they were so impressed which is why he knew the match up so well!

 

[Alright RyRy]

TBH, SonicFox is probably going to become the greatest of all time with FGs. He's already the best NRS player, a top DOA player, a top Skullgirls player, a top Pokken player, and arguably the best American SFv player at the moment with his current results. He got 9th at the first big American SFV major, and now he just placed the highest out of ALL Americans at the biggest USA SFV major to date which was Final Round that had over 1200+ players and TONS of top players and competition. Keep in mind he's also doing this with F.A.N.G who is considered a LOW TIER character.

Not many people understand how good SonicFox is. Especially the players that don't know him very well and play casuals with him on a constant basis. He loves fighting games and doesn't do this shit for money, fame, or publicity, so his skill and passion is 100% authentic and the realest it's ever going to get with someone. He plays fighting games because he loves the shit out of them and has insane amounts of fun playing them.

IMO, SonicFox is the best at multiple characters in multiple games. For example, he was known as being the "best" Batgirl in Injustice, but I would put money down that he was also the best Killer Frost, Catwoman, and Joker Injustice has ever seen and would like to see many players try to fight his alts. I would play his secondary characters in Injustice and they were ridiculous. He would 15-0 my Martian Manhunter with characters like Catwoman and do crazy abstract things I barely so actual Catwoman mains do. I mean, he was just bodying top players at Final Round with JASON VOORHEES. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Sonic is currently the best Jason. This kid has talent and it's shown over the years and he's only going to get BETTER as he gets older. Every year SonicFox goes through a Super Saiyan-esque transformation and gets way harder to defeat than he was the previous year. His skill multiplies and he gets wiser as he gets older. If you've ever beaten SonicFox before, chances are he will wreck you in a run back. Pretty much everyone who has experience can attest to this.

This kid is amazing and in years down the line I think he will be known as one of the best FG players of all time with all of his trophies, acolytes, multi-game domination, and growth as a player. SonicFox is truly one of a kind, IMO.

/thread.

This was worded perfectly.

 

[Sultani]

I see more people saying "stop using MK9 as an argument" than people actually using MK9 as an argument.

By like.... A lot.

 

[Linkuei82]

No one's been as dominant in a Mortal Kombat game as Fox has. Not only does he have an EVO championship, but he's won nearly everything else that matters. Starting at Day -1, no less.

And he's done it without sticking to characters that 8-2 half the cast. Imo there shouldn't be any question.

Why do I feel like you are passively taken jabs at player for who he played....

 

[JJvercetti]

Well, if they played a set in mk9 and mkx right now fox would win. Hard to call him the best MK player now.

There are more MK's than just 9 and X

 

[jmt]

There are more MK's than just 9 and X

And no one played those games. Doesn't count.

 

[MsMiharo]

Yea, I heard Kitana was low tier in MK9 so you could say 16Bit for sure.




Probably no one. IMO Fox was the best. HOWEVER, it is not about "skill" but accomplishments and another has the same accomplishments as Fox during the games relevancy.

* KDZ won 4 majors including 1 EVO. And for those who scream "PRE PATCH!" KDZ also defeated Fox 3 months after the final patch with post final patch Superman vs Batgirl and he beat him 2 sets at that. This was also just 30 days before Fox would go on to win FR.

* Fox also won 4 majors including 1 EVO. Even though the game died, Fox still continued to win. Some players may have practiced to take him out after he quit the game but he still beat them anyway.

Accomplishments wise KDZ and Fox basically accomplished the most out of any player. Some people care about "skill". I dont give a shit about how "good" you are. Its not about how "good" someone is but about what they do with it. Im sorry if "better" players do not accomplish as much. Accomplishments are facts, level of skill like good/bad are opinions.

Fox was the best at IGAU and its backed by FACTS. No one's opinion means more than facts. Arguing with that guy is pointless. He's just hating on Fox.

Yeah to me Sonic is indisputable not only because of the facts but the way he DOMINATED the game for a long period of time. KDZ was really really strong all the way through, along with some others, but no one came close to the streak Sonic Fox had/has.

 

[JJvercetti]

And no one played those games. Doesn't count.

why don't they count?

 

[jmt]

why don't they count?

Not a ton of people played them competitively. Tourney scene wasn't what it is now. I started playing MK1 back in 1992 in the arcades. I love those old games, but they aren't relevant in this discussion.

 

[Juggs]

No one's been as dominant in a Mortal Kombat game as Fox has. Not only does he have an EVO championship, but he's won nearly everything else that matters. Starting at Day -1, no less.

And he's done it without sticking to characters that 8-2 half the cast. Imo there shouldn't be any question.

REO has been dominant or a top player in more MK games than SonicFox, and won tournaments in those games. MK2, UMK3, MKT, 3D MK's, MK9 and MKX. SF only MK9 and MKX, as far as I'm aware. MK isn't only MK9 and MKX, believe it or not.

 

[jmt]

REO has been dominant or a top player in more MK games than SonicFox, and won tournaments in those games. MK2, UMK3, MKT, 3D MK's, MK9 and MKX. SF only MK9 and MKX, as far as I'm aware. MK isn't only MK9 and MKX, believe it or not.

Pre mk9 isn't a big deal

 

[JJvercetti]

REO has been dominant or a top player in more MK games than SonicFox, and won tournaments in those games. MK2, UMK3, MKT, 3D MK's, MK9 and MKX. SF only MK9 and MKX, as far as I'm aware. MK isn't only MK9 and MKX, believe it or not.

I said that but apparently it does not count.

 

[Juggs]

I said that but apparently it does not count.

It does count. It would be like saying pre SF4 street fighter doesn't count.

 

[jmt]

Remember when reo won that mk vs dc tourney at evo with 500 entrants?

 

[FROST_]

You're an idiot.

That online warrior argument faded out when Wolfkrone made top 8 at EVO, and really faded out when NuckleDu became a top 5 SFIV player basically getting his experience online. Hell, Gamerbee is an online warrior, so is Infiltration.

So swerve.

The fact that you think he isn't the best injustice player shows how crazy you really are. I'm done.

I've decided that you can't be real. Just a dumb random troll.

I'm intrigued. Who's a better injustice player than Sonic Fox?

I been saying same thing as Brady yet I'm dumb? Pshh fuck out my face with that bullshit go suck sonic dick some more him and mdz and theo were interchangeable in injustice. Mk9 PL, REO, DJT, MIT, Brady, we're all better than him. Mkx he's the best y'all need hop off of sonic dick and look at FUCKIN FACTS... That's what's fucking wrong with nrs community.