SonicFox = Potential Greatest of All Time...And We Are Living In It

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

1. I don't know how it can even be debated that Fox isn't the top story of the FGC the last couple of years. The only person you could realistically compare to him is Chris G. The two of them are beyond a shadow of doubt in a league of their own, regardless of where you're from or what brand of fighter you most readily identify with.

2. Why the hell are so many people so much more concerned with who's better than who or which class of player is superior instead of just focusing on their game and striving to get to that level? If you consider yourself a competitive fighting gamer, what else matters other than striving to reach that apex? If more players were more concerned with raising their own skills instead of fawning over Fox and trying to discredit a once in a lifetime kind of player, we'd have a much collectively stronger and wiser playerbase.

You know who isn't concerned in the slightest about any of this? Players like @YOMI RM JagoBlake . Who hit every show they go to with the intensity of the fucking sun and aren't worried about anyone's placements or powers except their own. I saw the heartbreak in his eyes when he got knocked out and it literally inspired me and made me want to take my style more seriously, anywhere close to as passionately as he does... because it reminded me that while everyone gets so caught up in the usual throes of tournament chaos and, for the last long while, waiting for Fox to clean house, that you tend to forget the fire that burns and makes you want to do this in the first place.
And while I'm as big a fan as any of his, I will say that it wouldn't be nearly as easy for him to knock over show after show if more players would focus on getting to that level instead of just accepting the status quo.

 

[RM AtK!]

REO was the most dominant in MK9 only from 2013 or earlier. SonicFox took over MK9 since late 2013, and he won EVO 2014 on that game.

only 2013 or earlier? lol.. you mean he was the most dominant the 3 yrs it was on the evo lineup? and MLG?

EVO 2014 was a side tourney for fun where noone had been playing the game and everyone was pretty rusty.

 

[RM AtK!]

Even if everyone in MK9 was pretty rusty, they went to MKX anyway, and SonicFox has been dominating the game ever since it came out.

what does that have to do with mk9

 

[jmt]

not even debateable lmao.. REO was by far the most dominant

I posted somewhere that reo was the best mk9 player for almost the entire life of the game, but at the end sonic was better and more dominate. Plus I also meant that fox is the current best mk9, injustice and mkx player. Have a tourney for any of those games and he wins it.

 

[RM AtK!]

Duh, both of them are Netherrealm Studios' Mortal Kombat games, and nobody got serious of playing MK9 at the competitive level anymore.

yah but your response was to mine stating reo was the most dominant mk9 player .. so what does that have to do with mkx? i didn't say anything about mkx

 

[RM AtK!]

Like jmt said, he meant the current number 1 MK9 player. If REO was still number 1, SonicFox wouldn't have won EVO 2014 MK9, if REO was there.

but like you said noone plays the game anymore.. so im having trouble following lol.

REO wasn't at evo 2014 btw.. and i think everytime they played mk9 in tourney REO always won except maybe once (i think). Also DJT and MIT could probably still beat him too in MK9. Doesn't really matter though cuz noone plays and thats kinda irrelevant to REO being the most winningest / dominant mk9 player ever

 

[Rude]

not even debateable lmao.. REO was by far the most dominant

You know, it's actually an interesting debate. REO definitely won more majors, but he never won EVO. Perfect Legend almost never traveled, but won The World Championship for MK9 twice in a row.

No shade to REO, but too often people forget about Perfect Legend.

 

[RM AtK!]

You know, it's actually an interesting debate. REO definitely won more majors, but he never won EVO. Perfect Legend almost never traveled, but won The World Championship for MK9 twice in a row.

No shade to REO, but too often people forget about Perfect Legend.

for sure PL was gucci too, but he did travel. He went to every MLG and Evo 2013 etc..

EVO literally the only tourney REO never won.. He has like a 93% 3rd or better success rate and attended pretty much every tourney, along with the most MLG wins outa everyone

 

[Rude]

for sure PL was gucci too, but he did travel. He went to every MLG and Evo 2013 etc..

EVO literally the only tourney REO never won.. He has like a 93% 3rd or better success rate and attended pretty much every tourney, along with the most MLG wins outa everyone

He traveled to EVO, to VxG, and to the MLGs, sure. But as far as most grassroots were concerned, PL almost never went.

Ultimately, it comes down to what weighs more: Winning most of the smaller tournaments(small by comparison to EVO), or winning the World Championship back-to-back. Your mileage may vary.

 

[RM AtK!]

He traveled to EVO, to VxG, and to the MLGs, sure. But as far as most grassroots were concerned, PL almost never went.

Ultimately, it comes down to what weighs more: Winning most of the smaller tournaments(small by comparison to EVO), or winning the World Championship back-to-back. Your mileage may vary.

EVO for MK9 isn't EVO for SFV.. all the MLG's had the exact same comp or even better. Not taking away anything from PL ofc, but 2 2nd's and A FUCKLOAD of 1st's across the nation at nearly every major is kinda outweighing

 

[iSuckAtFightingGames]

Players like @YOMI RM JagoBlake . Who hit every show they go to with the intensity of the fucking sun and aren't worried about anyone's placements or powers except their own. I saw the heartbreak in his eyes when he got knocked out and it literally inspired me and made me want to take my style more seriously, anywhere close to as passionately as he does... because it reminded me that while everyone gets so caught up in the usual throes of tournament chaos and, for the last long while, waiting for Fox to clean house, that you tend to forget the fire that burns and makes you want to do this in the first place.

Completely agree. I respect the hell out of a player that has the salt like that. Shrugging off Michelangelo's hug and having the self respect to be pissed off at the placing he got. I get that the game can be fun, and should be... but I really dig players that take it seriously and those that do are only really playing vs their own goals. Blake will not be happy until he wins an event. That is a player that I can get behind and root for.

"If you don't win the last game of the season, no one gives a shit" - Moneyball.

 

[Rude]

EVO for MK9 isn't EVO for SFV.. all the MLG's had the exact same comp or even better. Not taking away anything from PL ofc, but 2 2nd's and A FUCKLOAD of 1st's across the nation at nearly every major is kinda outweighing

I don't think I'm with you, there. If you ask anyone competing during that era what mattered more: Winning MLG (which had dwindling turn outs toward the latter of it's life compared to EVO), or winning EVO, I think they'd say being EVO Champion.

No matter how esports MK9 got, EVO was always the biggest stage.

 

[iSuckAtFightingGames]

dose mlg still exist? I kind of stopped noticing it as I left the starvraft 2 scene.

 

[Rude]

EVO for MK9 isn't EVO for SFV.. all the MLG's had the exact same comp or even better. Not taking away anything from PL ofc, but 2 2nd's and A FUCKLOAD of 1st's across the nation at nearly every major is kinda outweighing

To put it another way:

If you were to ask anyone who casually followed the MK9 scene who won...Final Round(as an example) they probably wouldn't be able to tell you.

Meanwhile, even the most casual follower knew that PL was the EVO Champ.

 

[RM AtK!]

To put it another way:

If you were to ask anyone who casually followed the MK9 scene who won...Final Round(as an example) they probably wouldn't be able to tell you.

Meanwhile, even the most casual follower knew that PL was the EVO Champ.

i mean same could be said about sfv... people would say LUPE FIASCO LOL

 

[Rude]

i mean same could be said about sfv... people would say LUPE FIASCO LOL

No...no, I don't think that's even remotely the same thing at all.

 

[Insuperable]

I don't even understand how people are arguing the fact that sonic fox is the greatest ever, at least on US soil. MK9 was the birth of the GOAT. Sonic Fox took the world by storm once he won EVO 2014 in MK9. REO NEVER won EVO for MK9. A fallacy in the argument "REO is good." REO may be alright at the game, maybe even top tier, but if you do not have an EVO belt, you do not have the "best" title imo. This RM AtK kid is arguing that DJT and MIT were better than sonic fox. Ok where are their EVO 2014 belts? I know DJT won EVO in 2013 but that was like 20 years ago let's be real people didn't even play the game by that time. We are going by CURRENT best. Sonic Fox - Best American Street Fighter player, best FANG in the world, best MKX player in the world, best Kitana, Erron Black, Cassie Cage, Alien in the world, best Injustice player in the world, best Batgirl in the world, best PLAYER in the world

 

[vicious1024]

Along with Infilitration, Tokido, Justin Wong and ChrisG, SonicFox is one of the best fighting game players at the moment. Though, it is far too soon to say he is one of the best fighting game players of all time. There are players that have won and/or placed in multiple games, throughout multiple genres, for much longer than him.

I find his recent fighting game dominance to be most comparable to ChrisG and Infiltration. Before Chris' recent break from tournaments, he won and/or placed in nearly every game he entered. Next to SonicFox, Infilitration has seen one of the most financially successful tournament runs where he dominated SFIV and SFxT for over a year - winning nearly every tournament he entered (including Evo and Capcom Cup). Next to Daigo, Momochi, Xian and Kazunoko, Infilitration is still one of the best SFIV players and is now one of the best SFV players.

SonicFox is undoubtedly the best NRS player we've seen since REO. He is definitely one of the best fighting game players we've seen in recent history. But, of all time? Way too soon.

 

[FROST_]

He is the best mk9, injustice and MKX ever. Top 5 in skull girls and doa. #1 guy in the fgc easily

Not best in mk9 for certain not best in injustice for certain mkx prolly yeah. Doa5 and SGs yeah he is so stop listening to everyone else.

Well to be fair, what you said is insane.

No what I said is from a thinking perspective.

Also this is what's wrong with the Nrs community a thread of ONE person and people praising him. Smh no wonder the other FGs laugh at y'all. Smh especially with the lack of fundamentals that MKXL requires

 

[FROST_]

I don't even understand how people are arguing the fact that sonic fox is the greatest ever, at least on US soil. MK9 was the birth of the GOAT. Sonic Fox took the world by storm once he won EVO 2014 in MK9. REO NEVER won EVO for MK9. A fallacy in the argument "REO is good." REO may be alright at the game, maybe even top tier, but if you do not have an EVO belt, you do not have the "best" title imo. This RM AtK kid is arguing that DJT and MIT were better than sonic fox. Ok where are their EVO 2014 belts? I know DJT won EVO in 2013 but that was like 20 years ago let's be real people didn't even play the game by that time. We are going by CURRENT best. Sonic Fox - Best American Street Fighter player, best FANG in the world, best MKX player in the world, best Kitana, Erron Black, Cassie Cage, Alien in the world, best Injustice player in the world, best Batgirl in the world, best PLAYER in the world

You done riding yet?
1st REO doesn't need a evo belt we was the greatest as he put Kabal on the map. DJT won a evo and it was 1 year before sonic did so therefore sonics evo happened a long time ago.... MIT was 17 at the time he 1st started to get recognition. And 2012-2013 was the golden age of mk9 the fuck you mean no body played at that time? 2014 everyone stop playing mk9 so he had no competition smh. Injustice he might be the best batgirl but not best player as I recall theo 3-0 him making sonic look scrubby by doing random uppercuts lol <--- the same shit that online players get bashed about. To say sonic is the best sf5 player is a joke (American players) idk if Alex Valle, 801 strider, etc still playing but FChamp beat sonic lol and 3k so... And FANG is not bottom tier smh explore that character and see why. Every comment you said basically had a even better reason why he not "the best FGC player in the world" smh.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

Completely agree. I respect the hell out of a player that has the salt like that. Shrugging off Michelangelo's hug and having the self respect to be pissed off at the placing he got. I get that the game can be fun, and should be... but I really dig players that take it seriously and those that do are only really playing vs their own goals. Blake will not be happy until he wins an event. That is a player that I can get behind and root for.

"If you don't win the last game of the season, no one gives a shit" - Moneyball.

Blake is my spirit animal. I still remember the unholy ass kickings he gave me in MK9 before I had a clue what I was doing. We need way more of that if anyone is ever gonna give Sonic a real run for his money.

 

[Amplified$hotz]

So Reo was better than PL?

 

[SneakyTortoise]

Not best in mk9 for certain not best in injustice for certain mkx prolly yeah. Doa5 and SGs yeah he is so stop listening to everyone else.

No what I said is from a thinking perspective.

Also this is what's wrong with the Nrs community a thread of ONE person and people praising him. Smh no wonder the other FGs laugh at y'all. Smh especially with the lack of fundamentals that MKXL requires

Wait a minute, are you saying sonicfox wasn't the best in injustice??

 

[FROST_]

Yep I am

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Tom Brady is the greatest of all time and I can prove it.