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yeah it is i just wanted to know if others though it was fair he was abl to just throw a EX smoke bomb and do anything he wanted after it.Umm I thought it was?
yeah it is i just wanted to know if others though it was fair he was abl to just throw a EX smoke bomb and do anything he wanted after it.Umm I thought it was?
Nothing was ever guarenteed and its armorable/backdash able on a readyeah it is i just wanted to know if others though it was fair he was abl to just throw a EX smoke bomb and do anything he wanted after it.
Scorp has not hard to blockables, man.So can Scorp and just because it's hard to block doesn't mean it's broke. Also you can back dash out if you time it right. ALSO armor and punish if it's 7-8 frames fast with good reach. Try labbing it
I meant on the 100% with Scorp sorry should of clarified. And if the Cyrax player does it perfectly one of the hits become a mid lol. And if he does it a fram or 2 apart just block over head low on the net low bomb b2 setup. If he delays the over head to hit last you are able to armor/backdash/fast poke.Scorp has not hard to blockables, man.
I did, and if the cyrax player has the correct timing, there's nothing to do.
i only tried with a few characters so your saying he can be stopped from a bunch of his sets? Also to everyone else is it hard to open people up with smoke?Nothing was ever guarenteed and its armorable/backdash able on a read
We have just said bye to stuff less broken than this with Quan chi nerf. You really think this is going to walk away untouched?I meant on the 100% with Scorp sorry should of clarified. And if the Cyrax player does it perfectly one of the hits become a mid lol. And if he does it a fram or 2 apart just block over head low on the net low bomb b2 setup. If he delays the over head to hit last you are able to armor/backdash/fast poke.
It can be if they know the matchup. I usually only play him against zoners and counter zone/zone with smoke bombs from full screen. When they try to run in just b21 teleport string or stagger the b2 and run up grab if they block on reactioni only tried with a few characters so your saying he can be stopped from a bunch of his sets? Also to everyone else is it hard to open people up with smoke?
I think it SHOULD be untouched. If they have to nerf him take away wake up armor so that once he's down you can pressure to make it fair.We have just said bye to stuff less broken than this with Quan chi nerf. You really think this is going to walk away untouched?
i played against mileena and it seems like she has to run in and it is hard for her to stop smoke after his EX smoke bomb but other then that the only problem i had was A list Johny Cage i could not get out of pressure any help with that MU so far or i got to wait?It can be if they know the matchup. I usually only play him against zoners and counter zone/zone with smoke bombs from full screen. When they try to run in just b21 teleport string or stagger the b2 and run up grab if they block on reaction
It is only my opinion, but I think hard to blockables are the cancer of this game, and all of them should be removed. One thing is a 50/50, reactions are involved. Hard to blockables are pure lottery, and luck shouldn't be a factor in this game, I think.I think it SHOULD be untouched. If they have to nerf him take away wake up armor so that once he's down you can pressure to make it fair.
Every character has bad match ups, and since smoke is just a variation he's prone to have a bit more bad match ups. However they all can be won if played differently so don't give up hope yet! My take on the A-list matchup is just stay full screen zoning and on a read neutral duck his ex kick and punish full screen. It can be a pretty hard matchup though.i played against mileena and it seems like she has to run in and it is hard for her to stop smoke after his EX smoke bomb but other then that the only problem i had was A list Johny Cage i could not get out of pressure any help with that MU so far or i got to wait?
I support your opinion aswell but I think it's kind of cool to have a character based around hard to blockables and setups. If every character had one then I can see this game being a mess but if Cyrax is the only variation in game with them and everything else of his is unsafe then you still have to have good neutral game to use him rightIt is only my opinion, but I think hard to blockables are the cancer of this game, and all of them should be removed. One thing is a 50/50, reactions are involved. Hard to blockables are pure lottery, and luck shouldn't be a factor in this game, I think.
Anyway, I'm anxious to see what happens at Final Round if all of this stuff remains xD
I would like air smoke bombs back lolSmoke bomb should be buffed so it is a legitimate projectile and not just a combo extender. 31 frame start up? lol
Make it a lot faster and remove the chip damage and I'd be happy with Smoke. But currently, not sure if anybody on this site noticed, I'm furious with how Smoke turned out. I want to run away and throw Smoke bombs. I don't want be Batgirl and vortex to death. I'd rather maximise my damage and play lame. Hell, they can take away the low starter for all I care.Smoke bomb should be buffed so it is a legitimate projectile and not just a combo extender. 31 frame start up? lol
thanks for the help.I support your opinion aswell but I think it's kind of cool to have a character based around hard to blockables and setups. If every character had one then I can see this game being a mess but if Cyrax is the only variation in game with them and everything else of his is unsafe then you still have to have good neutral game to use him right
Speak for yourself man I'm loving him like craaazy. Most fun I've had in a long timeSmoke is the worst of the other 3 bots. His normals always whiff during combos, can't combo b1 into sb consistently unless you use meter, no armor wake up game, and can't phase thru sub zeros ice clones. (He's free to GM sub btw). Its not fun playing smoke right now compared to the other bots
How about 17 frame start up would this be OK? Ex 12Smoke bomb should be buffed so it is a legitimate projectile and not just a combo extender. 31 frame start up? lol
I agree. I hate hard to blockables and was the one thing I hated about fighting summoner Quan. All it took was one hit and you had to guess what was coming next. There were times blocking correctly felt so good though and having Quan break immediately if he had meter.It is only my opinion, but I think hard to blockables are the cancer of this game, and all of them should be removed. One thing is a 50/50, reactions are involved. Hard to blockables are pure lottery, and luck shouldn't be a factor in this game, I think.
Anyway, I'm anxious to see what happens at Final Round if all of this stuff stays xD
You can play dumb with smoke, and I agree I don't want to vortex my way to victory except on a rare occasion, but some folks love doing that.Make it a lot faster and remove the chip damage and I'd be happy with Smoke. But currently, not sure if anybody on this site noticed, I'm furious with how Smoke turned out. I want to run away and throw Smoke bombs. I don't want be Batgirl and vortex to death. I'd rather maximise my damage and play lame. Hell, they can take away the low starter for all I care.