Top, Mid, Low - KP2 character tier speculation!

[ExoticAbuse]

I doubt CSZ will be low tier.

 

[kabelfritz]

S Tier: Alien
A+ Tier: Triborg
A Tier: Bo Rai Cho
B Tier: Leatherface

looking forward to being completely wrong

 

[stamatis]

People still salty about tanya?

People seriously need to get over Tanya.Her pressure is neutral duckable, pokable, armorable.
"Above all" Are you kidding me rn?Have you ever heard of the legend that is Tremor?Tanya is top tier but she's not as good as people make her out to be.This isn't pre-patch guys.

I will not argue with you,this is what you think....acceptable.

 

[stamatis]

Both UpRocket and EX Rocket hit mid (even though Cassie's is OH but ok). Straight missile is a high. Just block low against everything. If he uses EX Flame for pressure, just block low until it's your turn and watch for the grab. Better version of Cyber Kano looking Sektor. Probably will be good in certain MUs against chars who have a tough time against zoners, but in other MUs can't see him doing too much. When I saw Sektor it screamed "match up dependent character" or "cover the better Borgs weakness" lol.

Cyrax and Smoke on the other hand look they'll "kill you for attempting to play the game" no matter who you pick.

So I will play Sektor.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

Anyways, i think we should all agree that...

Spoiler

You got REKT by a bomb setup into a 35% meterless.

 

[Kokoko]

Sektor can be super viable without OH mixups. We'll see very soon.

 

[FinalBoss_FGC]

In another game Sektor would be a better character than he will be in MKX. Strong zoning tools accompanied with pressure but no mixups and no OH will leave him as a better version of Cyber Kano, which isn't a recipe for Top Tier. He'll be good, but he won't be waving S-Tier flags around. People will find ways around his zoning (one of the robots themselves will nullify it) and that'll be that. Meanwhile Cyrax will be breaking the bank on MKX tools of glory. He will signify everything this game uses to succeed and be a Top 3 overall variation.

I'm all but convinced Cyrax will be the money character. Too much MKX style tools of power not to be.

Am I missing something? How do you know Sektor doesn't have an overhead?

 

[Pterodactyl]

In another game Sektor would be a better character than he will be in MKX. Strong zoning tools accompanied with pressure but no mixups and no OH...

No offense but do you actually know all of Sektor/tri-borg's command normals and strings(or have talked to Ketchup)? Being confirmed as to not having Cyrax's B2 is not the same as not having an overhead, and we've already seen that they all share a low slide command normal/string.

People shouldn't start assuming what moves or options a character doesn't have just because they haven't seen them yet.

 

[SaltShaker]

Am I missing something? How do you know Sektor doesn't have an overhead?

I've already said too much.

No offense but do you actually know all of Sektor/tri-borg's command normals and strings(or have talked to Ketchup)? Being confirmed as to not having Cyrax's B2 is not the same as not having an overhead, and we've already seen that they all share a low slide command normal/string.

People shouldn't start assuming what moves or options a character doesn't have just because they haven't seen them yet.

One can say Smoke and Cyrax have an OH command normal, Sektor has the normal that pushes the opponent away like MK9, and Cyrax B2 gives him two OH starters. Unless Sektor has an OH inside his string like Reptile's 4(2)1 then that's another story, but I'm skeptical of that. If he does have a string like that it would change my entire perception, but if he doesn't I think it will hold him back in this game because of the way it's played.

 

[TotteryManx]

Did anyone notice if Sektor had a overhead? Him landing a 50/50 combo and ending with the homing missile could lead to another guess you have to make. I think he will be top if he has a 50/50. Cyrax could be next since his bombs are low. Corner traps could be dangerous with him having to block a overhead and low bomb at the same time(Quan Chi).

 

[kcd117]

I was watching the kombat cast and noticed that when they were playing cyrax his B1 was an overhead, and when they opened his move list at the end of the exibition it wasn't shown as a variation specific normal. Also, when they were showing us smoke they did B1 again and it was the same move, so I actually think all four variations are going to have this normal.

 

[Pterodactyl]

One can say Smoke and Cyrax have an OH command normal, Sektor has the normal that pushes the opponent away like MK9, and Cyrax B2 gives him two OH starters. Unless Sektor has an OH inside his string like Reptile's 4(2)1 then that's another story, but I'm skeptical of that. If he does have a string like that it would change my entire perception, but if he doesn't I think it will hold him back in this game because of the way it's played.

Well Cyrax's b2 is the OH pop-up. Sektor's jet blast normal is b1. For all we know his b2 could be an overhead of some sort as well, or any other normal + direction.

And he could also have an overhead in strings.

My point is, we shouldn't just assume limitations when we don't know the full extent of what a character can do yet.

 

[SaltShaker]

Well Cyrax's b2 is the OH pop-up. Sektor's jet blast normal is b1. For all we know his b2 could be an overhead of some sort as well, or any other normal + direction.

And he could also have an overhead in strings.

My point is, we shouldn't just assume limitations when we don't know the full extent of what a character can do yet.

True enough. We'll revisit this March 1st when Sektor has no OH but the other Robots have a universal one.

 

[Apex Kano]

Cyrax is going to be the best out of all of them.

I can guarantee that on my ass.

Well get ready for a sore ass. LOL!
The bots will be the best. Hands down.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Sektor has a string into OH and another string into low. You can see it in the triborg ESL stream footage.

also Smoke has Sub Zero's slide wtf

 

[Olcadan13]

*sigh*

Nah.

That is a Praetorian class Xenomorph, they defend the eggs and the queen.

And in MKX:

Notice how they aren't the size of a T-rex, have much smaller crowns, and don't have four arms?

A queen is seen in a fatality, notice her size:

I thought it was a queen too, at first, then I saw you in the Alien discussion thread bring up Praetorians, and I realized it probably was one.

Then I saw the fatality in question, and noticed that's definitely a Queen, but then I wasn't sure. If you notice, the Queen in this fatality doesn't have four arms, and is only like a foot taller than Takeda.

The crown seems to match more with the Queen, the lack of size and arms may just be NRS leaving those out, like I imagine they'll leave out the acid blood on Kotal's fatality among others.

This isn't the Alien that we get to play in the egg variation, I'm pretty sure, because the crown appears to have spikes on that particular Alien. All this does is build more hype for Alien when it comes out, the fatal background is black, so maybe the Alien drags you to the Queen or something.

 

[Pterodactyl]

True enough. We'll revisit this March 1st when Sektor has no OH but the other Robots have a universal one.

Sektor has a string into OH and another string into low. You can see it in the triborg ESL stream footage.

 

[SaltShaker]

Indeed.

 

[SaltShaker]

I just rewatched the KP2 play. Only string showed with an OH is a 3 hit string that ENDS in an OH that looks like it has a gap lol. By far not what I was talking about.

 

[Pterodactyl]

I just rewatched the KP2 play. Only string showed with an OH is a 3 hit string that ENDS in an OH that looks like it has a gap lol. By far not what I was talking about.

That we know of.

 

[SaltShaker]

That we know of.

Overall if he ends up not having one but his frame data is strong then he'll be able to cause some wreck without Cyraxing you from one side of the stage to the other lol. Fingers are crossed. -.-

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

I just rewatched the KP2 play. Only string showed with an OH is a 3 hit string that ENDS in an OH that looks like it has a gap lol. By far not what I was talking about.

Good thing Sektor has an OH. Now he can viable

Everything is speculative as they may change the character before March 1st
I don't think you can really compare Sektor to Quan Chi or Predator Zoning because if you knock them down or get in their face its party time.
If you get in Sektor's face he can just spend a bar and be plus.

-Sektor has a safe(ish?) lanching teleport
-Nothing says get the fuck off me like an armor breaking special that covers the entire screen and is advantage on block (that means that in virtually any situation you can spend a bar to be plus)
-A ton of advantage on block EX specials
-Robo skates
- An air dash
- Armor breaking missiles that can be placed anywhere
- Blockstrings and safe specials to build meter

I still think Cyrax and Smoke look better and this game isn't about zoning, but Sektor definitely controls some space.
He'll probably be like MK9 Sektor- anti zoning and footsies.
If his stagger strings are good enough then it looks like he should be able to hang with the top tier imo.

 

[Olcadan13]

As much as I want Sektor to be the best Smoke might have more tools. Smoke bomb into restand into invisible mixups from anywhere on the screen

 

[Dankster Morgan]

I can't see any of the cyborgs being bad whatsoever none below a+

 

[SaltShaker]

Good thing Sektor has an OH. Now he can viable

Everything is speculative as they may change the character before March 1st
I don't think you can really compare Sektor to Quan Chi or Predator Zoning because if you knock them down or get in their face its party time.
If you get in Sektor's face he can just spend a bar and be plus.

-Sektor has a safe(ish?) lanching teleport
-Nothing says get the fuck off me like an armor breaking special that covers the entire screen and is advantage on block (that means that in virtually any situation you can spend a bar to be plus)
-A ton of advantage on block EX specials
-Robo skates
- An air dash
- Armor breaking missiles that can be placed anywhere
- Blockstrings and safe specials to build meter

I still think Cyrax and Smoke look better and this game isn't about zoning, but Sektor definitely controls some space.
He'll probably be like MK9 Sektor- anti zoning and footsies.
If his stagger strings are good enough then it looks like he should be able to hang with the top tier imo.

I can agree with most of this, but that exact reasoning is why i think he'll be "good but not great".

That teleport looks hella unsafe, and not having at least the "threat" of an OH normal up front hurts. For example, I would say Kitana would take a significant hit without her OH, and it doesn't even launch and is kinda slow. Not having that makes him a pure zoning/space control character in a game that doesn't reward such types of characters. Cyber Kano 2.0 looking character. Cyrax and Smoke look like they would take his lunch money in a 1 vs 1 MU.

Though one thing I'll admit, the EX Flame is gonna be a life vest against the pressure characters. It's something some of those types characters don't have that they could use/need. It's actually better than unsafe launching armor imo for this type of character.