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Kuff Botal
Its probably better with f12 being safe now and the sun god buffs but pre patch it was atleast 7-3. I was limited to like 3 buttons once noobe learned the MU
Its probably better with f12 being safe now and the sun god buffs but pre patch it was atleast 7-3. I was limited to like 3 buttons once noobe learned the MU
BG and SG are probably about the same. They both received basically the same improvements.
I just got home and tested it in the lab, it is same frame advantage
Anything that ends up leading to block pressure/frame traps that are difficult to get out of eventually get patched out in this game. Kotal isn't considered top tier so they're leaving it alone at the moment, but expect that to be one of the first things to go if Kotal starts making waves.
Lao wasn't as bad in war god, jax was pretty bad but quan we block infinited in the corner.
He could low profile unless we were frame perfect pretty much. And the guessing game was terrible. He guessed right once we would lose our lifebar. Lao in war god was still garbage. Ex spin beat everything.
At least we can b+2 that low profile to keep him honest and still be safe on block now. I had to club a Quan Chi player over the head with it earlier. It felt good.
Keeping your frametraps tight is not matchup related, you should be practicing that because the same thing can/could be done by other chars too.
Don't worry anyone who actually plans with sticking with Kotal after the sungod buffs will eventually switch to war god anyway.
Regardless ... The risk reward was never in your favor and we all know about the inconsistency of b1 prepatch. That mu was terrible and probably worse now that he has a 6 frame poke.
This is cool because you can always escape by back dashing (after the air throw whiff or after b+1,2,2 inbetween the string and sunstone) or armor (if it's a really fast armor after air throw whiff or before the sunstone is thrown). The Kotal Kahn player also has to be perfect in order to avoid being low profiled since there are points where KK is only at +4 on block. Ronin's is cool too for the same reason. It's not fair that REO wants to ruin the frames of a string which will potentially destroy Takeda's ground game potential just because he doesn't feel like backdashing or using armor. If he takes the hit, then the block infinite is over because if he literally lets go of block on the last hit... the player most likely won't be prepared to hit confirm into a substantial juggle.
You can't low profile or backdash. Every character in the game gets caught by B12 if they backdash.
So they still have a chance to escape by backdashing the sunstone throw or armoring through the sunstone throw, I'm not sure if the sword in War God has the same gap... but they can plan to escape. Plus, once we run out of meter that's it as well. I love that Sun God can Soul Scorch to get that last rep in though.
There is nothing guaranteed. You can do a B1 if they have no meter to armour but anything afterwards is either punishable or can be poked out of.
Exactly, so that's why ours is cool. Just because it's a great part of our game doesn't mean it needs to be a candidate for the nerf bat. That's the only thing I was trying to explain to JDM. Plus, REO's complaint is right now only against Jason right? People can just not pick Jason versus Ronin to avoid the "block infinite" that can be backdashed or armoured though.
Awesome:" if he takes the hit, then the block infinite is over because if he literally lets go of block on the last hit... The player MOST LIKELY won't be prepared to hit confirm into a substantial juggle"!! Are you f...ing serious?!?
This has been a viable strategy for a long time now.
Maybe, but when your opponent can potentially convert your getting hit into a combo that isn't really a way out of a block infinite. It is your opponent who messes up. So using that as an excuse for such infinite to exist is stupid.
It's still a read 50/50 either way. Because if they try to convert and you stay blocking. Your in the better position
The nature of block strings being canned combos in MK means that unless they have a string where they are able to cancel into a specific special on reaction (luckily, Kotal Kahn has 2) the offensive player has already committed to what attacks are going to happen since option selects are gone. It's your responsibility to know when to backdash, take the hit, neutral duck, block, armor move, etc and it's also your responsibility as a defender to know when this is possible. If this wasn't the case, then match up knowledge wouldn't matter. Your reward for making the correct defensive choice is that the offensive player overextends on you get to counter attack/escape the pressure situation.
