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How could they fuck up when all they have to do is mash 3 while holding down?
I'll try testing this in the lab.
I'll try testing this in the lab.
That's what I'm saying, they had to increase its recovery to stop it from being +2. If they reverted it then it'd be back where it started which was broken. They could try decreasing the recovery frames again but we don't know if that'll trigger the bug again. Jack of all trades? What? His zoning is better than his rushdown, you're telling me his pressure game is laughable but he can be up in your face so what's he going to be up in your face with? That's a really vague statement. He's super defensive, zoning and footsies are what this variation is about. As a variation without 50/50s, staggered blockstring pressure and low or throw are his only mixups which aren't really as good as a 50/50 so I wouldn't say his up close game is that great at all. He's better at zoning than rushdown which is why he beats characters like Cassie. For the record Kenshi and Bone Shaper Shinnok weren't zoners before, Kenshi was and pretty much still is space control and Bone Shaper Shinnok was counterzoning. Necromancer is dedicated zoning.
Pressure? What pressure? As for nothing special about knives lmao, come on. Also what the hell are you talking about? Knives don't function at the zoning level? You're not making any sense. Of course knives are for zoning, he's a defensive/zoning variation. Just because his projectile doesn't do the most damage doesn't mean it's not a zoning tool.
1+3 ender isn't -2 anyway, it's full combo punishable.
Every zoning character in this game has that something extra. Quan chi can MB rune for hella plus frames and control where it hits, mournful kitana can direct where her projectile travels by holding up or down and can do air projectiles, liu kang can do a low/mid/ or air FB and can cancel in DF variation, shall I continue? Kano has 0 special properties from his projectile, therefore it is a weak zoning tool "compared" to the rest of the zoners in the game which was my argument. Also he has footsies and plays as such using what "little" advantage and "pressure" he has with the "knives". And if you read the second half of my post you would have noticed that I said his pressure isn't as good as most pressure characters either. He suffers on both ends of the spectrum, however his knives and footsies are more useful on the pressure side than the zoning side. That's the point I was trying to make bud.
Not being able to control the direction of a projectile != weak zoning tool. That's just incorrect logic. What makes a zoning tool a weak zoning tool is if it's slow, doesn't do a lot of damage, is easily avoidable, things like that. The only one of those three that applies to Cybernetics knives is that, in comparison to other projectiles, it doesn't do as much damage. It's NOT a weak zoning tool. In comparison it might seem that way but it's really not. If that were the case he wouldn't beat Cassie, he wouldn't be able to compete with D'Vorah, Jax, Raiden, Sub Zero, you get my point. Why are you only looking at it like there's two parts of the spectrum? Not everything is either zoning or rushdown, there's footsies/the midrange game too which he excels at. He suffers as a pressure character but that's it, his zoning isn't as bad as you're making it sound. It's not always about the frames or the damage, EX knives break armour remember which is very important. Knives and footsies are a part of defence, not offence. Knives are a zoning tool and are important for zoning, controlling space. You can't say he has bad pressure then insinuate his knives and footsies are better for pressure than zoning, that doesn't make sense.
Dude......you don't read a full post do you? I already mentioned he's a footsie character and I'm not just focused on the 2 sides of the spectrum. I was just chiming in on a topic you were a part of which was pressure and zoning as the subject. Knife is a zoning tool yes but its weaker in comparison with the majority of the zoning characters. Oh and Kano doesn't "excel" at anything, not even the neutral. He has safe footsies and pokes but it's the player that excels at everything he does not Kano. Kano suffers from being purely zoning or purely rushdown but his toolkit in cyber seems to better keep you grounded than a run away knife throwing 3/4-fullscreen style that's all I'm saying.
I did read your post, I replied to everything you wrote. You said "He suffers on both ends of the spectrum", what do you expect me to think you're saying? Insinuating Kano isn't one of the best footsie characters in the game (which is another way of phrasing what you said is HUGE downplaying, he has an 11 frame advancing low crush combo starter, some of the best ranged pokes in the game, a great anti-air normal that converts for full combo and is a 9 frame slightly advancing mid. Combine that with his back walkspeed and his dashes and you cannot tell me he doesn't have some of the best footsie tools in the game. I don't really get what you mean by your last sentence...did you mean he suffers from not being pure zoning or rushdown? I agree he's definitely a character that'll keep you grounded but people aren't going to eat mid knives forever, and if they do that's good for you since you get meter and damage, but he actually does both of the things you said. From midscreen / 3/4 screen to fullscreen he's aggressively throwing knives then from about midscreen and closer he's mixing it up between aggressive knife throwing to bait jumps and catching the opponent trying to whiff punish you by jumping at you (or occasionally armouring through knives).
Lol why are you even here? You don't play the character any more, move on. It's like you're here just to ride my dick or something, jesus...
In lieu of an actual argument, Youphemism resorts to bullshit.
Because I'm not arguing with someone who hypocritically decides getting better as a player is "sentimental bullshit" yet tells the community to get better as players instead of nerfing Quan's pseudo-unblockables. Not worth the time when I can go and actually contribute something other than pessimism to the Kano forums.
Way to take things out of context, Youph.
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