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DET_BLAKEANATOR

DET_BLAKEANATOR

Mortal
No that's not the point I'm not talking about a matchup I'm talking is -53 on whiff TF fair...... Before you answer think about that -53!! Does it have to be that negative for someone who is supposed to be a "zoner"
 
Immortal

Immortal

Blind justice....
DET_BLAKEANATOR said:
No that's not the point I'm not talking about a matchup I'm talking is -53 on whiff TF fair...... Before you answer think about that -53!! Does it have to be that negative for someone who is supposed to be a "zoner"
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This was discussed like dozen times already in many threads, no point in doing this again.

Balanced is crap in current state (TF on whiff is only one of several things wrong with this variation).

Kenshi overall is at best somewhere around 15th place or even lower atm.

Lets see what balance patch will bring.

If you wanna play Kenshi still / now - play Possessed or Kenjutsu both pretty even (nothing great but way better then balanced most of the time), thou many people think Possessed is the best i personally think Kenjutsu is a bit better then Possessed.
 
GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
I think Kenshi needs a rival - another samurai. He could be the Yin to Kenshi's Yang in terms of playstyle, but the Yang to Kenshi's Yin in terms of personality.

He could be someone from Kenshi's past...

Maybe an old warrior trying to reclaim his lost, but Kenshi's current blade...

------------------------------Enigma - The Dark Samurai---------------------------


What do you guys think? Who would want to play as Enigma?

NRS does a great job of coming up with dynamic styles, so I have no doubt he would be awesome.

If they wanted a suggestion, I would suggest some anti-zoning moves with quick-short attacks lacking in range, but not power - effectively making him Kenshi's yin counterpart without making one stronger than the other.

I claim no rights since the idea came from already existing MK lore. Do it!!!
 
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PunkMafia83

PunkMafia83

PSN: YaRnToNpUnKMAFIA
So guys. I have an idea. I don't know if its good or not so if it's rubbish just say. This is for balanced.
Off a punish either do 1 or 2 1 rising karma, forward 3 2 overhead slash. About mid 20% damage. Now, this leaves the opponent at b f 2 range. You can either do b f 2* as they getup, or they jump forward giving you a raising karma combo. If they jump back b f 3, or they simply stand up and do nothing. Or they wake up.

Alternatively you could jump in I guess?

Just shooting ideas.

Thnx
 
ismael4790

ismael4790

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thlityoursloat said:
It wouldnt have been so bad if his overhead sword tracked. Scorpion's demons can track you all the way through hell and back.
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I agree, that would help balanced. But I don't think it will happen.
Let's just hope they reduce the recovery of TF on whiff, and make some of the other specials a little bit safer on block, and it will be fine.
 
thlityoursloat

thlityoursloat

kick kick
ismael4790 said:
I agree, that would help balanced. But I don't think it will happen.
Let's just hope they reduce the recovery of TF on whiff, and make some of the other specials a little bit safer on block, and it will be fine.
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Yea, Possessed seems to outclass Balanced in every possible way. Its teleflurry hitting mid is honestly a huge deal for me, despite it being -20. That and the push and rising karma equivalent being safe.
 
DET_BLAKEANATOR

DET_BLAKEANATOR

Mortal
Did Paulo say 10 less recovery frames on teleflurry? So from -53 to -43. Hopefully I'm wrong but that sounds pathetic -_-.......please tell me I heard that wrong
 
ismael4790

ismael4790

Stay focused or get Caged
DET_BLAKEANATOR said:
Did Paulo say 10 less recovery frames on teleflurry? So from -53 to -43. Hopefully I'm wrong but that sounds pathetic -_-.......please tell me I heard that wrong
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Not sure, we will see in half an hour at the patch notes.
D3 is now an actual low, and the rest of the specials are safer too.
 
DET_BLAKEANATOR

DET_BLAKEANATOR

Mortal
D3 is a low now and now TF might be only -43 on whiff.....that's not a buff lol I hope when the actual patch notes come out I can look back at this comment and call myself a moron because I am not impressed with that at all.
 
ismael4790

ismael4790

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DET_BLAKEANATOR said:
D3 is a low now and now TF might be only -43 on whiff.....that's not a buff lol I hope when the actual patch notes come out I can look back at this comment and call myself a moron because I am not impressed with that at all.
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Yeah, is not a buff xD D3 should have been a low since the beggining and the specials were always too unsafe.
This is at most a semi-fix...
 
DET_BLAKEANATOR

DET_BLAKEANATOR

Mortal
ismael4790 said:
Yeah, is not a buff xD D3 should have been a low since the beggining and the specials were always too unsafe.
This is at most a semi-fix...
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These other characters are getting new moves, 2 in 1's, dash cancels, damage buffs. Kenshi gets a low poke (as he should have had day 1) and a zoning tool that alot of characters will still be able to punish full screen. Sounds great -_-
 
ismael4790

ismael4790

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DET_BLAKEANATOR said:
These other characters are getting new moves, 2 in 1's, dash cancels, damage buffs. Kenshi gets a low poke (as he should have had day 1) and a zoning tool that alot of characters will still be able to punish full screen. Sounds great -_-
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Totally agree with you. Kano for example got overbuffed, in two variations...it's hilarious.
 
ismael4790

ismael4790

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Youphemism said:
Are you joking? Which two got "overbuffed"?
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I think the improvement to the damage buff for cutthroat is unnecessary and that will lead to mixups that can make this variation go from mid tier to top. Nrs logic for buffs is curious. Why Cage's Fistbump remains as it is and Kano damage buff gets better? No reason.

And the antiair into combo for cybernetic...really? having mid projectiles too?
 
Youphemism

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
ismael4790 said:
I think the improvement to the damage buff for cutthroat is unnecessary and that will lead to mixups that can make this variation go from mid tier to top. Nrs logic for buffs is curious. Why Cage's Fistbump remains as it is and Kano damage buff gets better? No reason.

And the antiair into combo for cybernetic...really? having mid projectiles too?
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Ok Cutthroat is a to be determined kind of thing, THE PATCH IS NOT EVEN OUT YET and you're suggesting he's "overbuffed". I mean, come on, surely you see how that's hasty?

You actually think that overbuffed Cybernetic? He already has like 5 great anti-airs, this barely changes him. The logic of having a comboable up laser with mid projectiles and them being too powerful doesn't even make sense.
 
SaltShaker

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
How are the Kenshi main's feeling about these buffs? You guys seem to be the quietest out of everyone.

I'll be honest, on paper it didn't seem like much to be happy about at all but you guys may know better than I do. Will these changes help Kenshi in MU's or were they just buffs for show?
 
Indypride

Indypride

Noob
SaltShaker said:
How are the Kenshi main's feeling about these buffs? You guys seem to be the quietest out of everyone.

I'll be honest, on paper it didn't seem like much to be happy about at all but you guys may know better than I do. Will these changes help Kenshi in MU's or were they just buffs for show?
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Pig and Immortal were clearly upset about the patch, which invariably means the rest of the Kenshi community is upset. The patch notes for Kenshi were fixes, not really buffs. Down 3 should have hit low from the beginning, and whiffed teleflurry now at -43 instead of -53 doesnt really change much. I dont play Kenshi, but I know they wanted a lot more.
 
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