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General/Other - Hellfire Hellfire Pressure Gone

What is the point of having the fireball now since the projectile itself is completely terrible?
It's probably the worst projectile in the game, "terrible" is an understatement lol. I mean, there are still mind games and advantages i guess. Maybe they could actually buff the damn projectile though to compensate.
 

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
It may help Ninjutsu but the FBRCs was HF's shtick. FA is still good but the pressure was what made that variation.
Flame aura is insane and FBC still are good. I can't confirm the advantage yet but being + after FBC is a big deal still. Instead of guaranteed chip outside of them eating the 4 you can now potentially frame trap into another combo. It's still good.
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
If anything, you all should be super motivated to play Ninjutsu now.

:)

Real talk though, I'm sure Hellfire will endure. You will adjust to the new Scorpion and do well.
 

HeroesNZ

Baconlord's Billionaire Sugar Daddy
Hellfire is more than just 214 FBC. We should still have mids that are plus when FBC-ed, good pressure, good damage, Hellfire, and most of all, Flame Aura.

I'm not one to complain much tbh but even so Hellfire will still be good. I assured Erron players that Marksman wasn't dead after the Sand Trap nerf and now I'm telling you guys Hellfire isn't dead.

Scorpion shall live on. I can't wait to see how good Ninjutsu is though.
 

Bildslash

Goro Lives 
Just do b12 after 214xxFBC. It no longer jails, but still has enough advantage to do a blockstring or punish the opponent for pressing buttons.
 
Flame aura is insane and FBC still are good. I can't confirm the advantage yet but being + after FBC is a big deal still. Instead of guaranteed chip outside of them eating the 4 you can now potentially frame trap into another combo. It's still good.
What does he get off of it now? No mix up (even with 214 untouched) because F4 is highly reactable. Pretty much just a low into ex spear to remain safe or B121 to remain safe.

He already suffers in neutral with most the cast.
 
That's just freaking great! They better take liu kang's away also... I like how they take something people grind on to perfect and leave button mashing characters alone!
 

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
What does he get off of it now? No mix up (even with 214 untouched) because F4 is highly reactable. Pretty much just a low into ex spear to remain safe or B121 to remain safe.

He already suffers in neutral with most the cast.
Well you can fbc more than once and still do a ton of chip damage if they respect the option. If anything this opens up potential for more damage on the right reads. There was no mixup before, the only mixup was at the end of the fbc where you were at advantage.
 
That's just freaking great! They better take liu kang's away also... I like how they take something people grind on to perfect and leave button mashing characters alone!
And so it begins... STOP! Liu has half the options that HF Scorpion does. I'm salty too but leave my Liu alone please and thanks
 
I only played Hellfire cuz this shit was pretty dumb. It was too good not to play. Hellfire probably still viable, but this bumps him from top tier conversations.

Ah well. I wanted to play ninjitsu anyway.