XxTheGoblinX
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So say you create the clone, do the overhead,4 and then shatter the clone . There is enough damage to kill, so would that start the brutality? Or does the player have to be standing up?
So say you create the clone, do the overhead,4 and then shatter the clone . There is enough damage to kill, so would that start the brutality? Or does the player have to be standing up?
More than likely has to be standing. Sub-Zero has garbage opportunities to combo into his brutalities.
I'd just like to point out, that using B2, 4xxShatter is extremely positioning dependant, and off a position much harder to set up off our wall combo. There is also a very small window of successful positioning for SZ himself, because he needs to be standing close enough to land the B2 into 4, but not far enough that his shatter doesn't break that Clone, which can be challenging. It also wastes much more time after the knockdown making punishes / escapes much more likely. Also, the execution of the combo itself is much tighter than other options, who work even if you mistime by a couple of frames, doing it this way is much harder. It basically turns an already extremely situational combo, into something borderline a gimmick.
check Nu-Skools vid on the previous page demonstrating how smoothely it works in practice
My video did have 2,4 Klone Shatter combos and others on the same page.Other than that, I strongly recommend just sticking to 24xxShatter video's
Your right. That combo looks beautiful but is just way too difficult to do online.I'd just like to point out, that using B2, 4xxShatter is extremely positioning dependant, and off a position much harder to set up off our wall combo. There is also a very small window of successful positioning for SZ himself, because he needs to be standing close enough to land the B2 into 4, but not far enough that his shatter doesn't break that Clone, which can be challenging. It also wastes much more time after the knockdown making punishes / escapes much more likely. Also, the execution of the combo itself is much tighter than other options, who work even if you mistime by a couple of frames, doing it this way is much harder. It basically turns an already extremely situational combo, into something borderline a gimmick.
And literally the only thing you gain from doing it this way, is 1% damage, assuming you NAIL the timing and spacing absolutely perfectly, it allows you to manage to fit an extra D1 juggle in to the combo. Otherwise, 24xxShatter combo's are much more reliable, and do exactly the same amount of damage, set up much more reliably, safely, don't require perfect spacing from SZ himself.
However, I won't say that positioning a Clone as such is completely useless. Here is a video demonstrating an EASY as pie, 62% X-Ray combo that requires a B2, 4xxShatter start, including set up after a wall combo
Other than that, I strongly recommend just sticking to 24xxShatter video's
Do ya have a particular combo against female characters and when ya hit them in the air with B2?
This is great! Bummed there wasn't any shatter combos done off the hard knd setups or an overhead combo for when the clone is already out but these are really good.
Video doesn't work in my country. Can I get a notation?
True that, I see you did. I just haven't seen it used / discussed much and it was something my mind always skipped over as an option. In the corner it even hitconfirms into Iceball if they break your clone and you smooth enough with it, not bad at all
At 22:20 did you mean to slide and push him into the clone? Played great btw
Both b2 24xxshatter, b12/1,1xxclone and b33xxshatter 1,1xx clone work against females. I'll get to separate video on that later.
I had made a Klone Shatter thread some time ago so you possibly saw it.
http://www.mediafire.com/watch/hahhx0iv2le5em3/MKX__Sub-Zero_[GrandMaster]_Wall_combo_with_ICE_CLONE_on_FEMALE_characters!.mp4
Ahh nice. I just use
Oh wow. 22:20, that meaty slide swapped sides with him so he woke up directly on the side of clone... thats nice. Didn't look intentional, and if you are blocking, it smashes the clone, but it does force them to block at least. Might be something worth looking at.
It's intentional, it's a gimmick setup for people who ry to tech roll, wakeup or do anything without holding block as well.
I just looked this up to see exactly what you did as I want to learn it, but the streams been deleted. What was the setup again?
Almost any long advantage knockdown into slide, there's a specific timing you can find with practice. If you have clone up they must block and slide's semi safe, if not you're full combo punished in the corner.
Gotta love the 1,2 tech. You should also be plus from the burst+shatter and it pushes you back to a safe distance. You can F+4,2 , Klone them right after too which is hilarious. If you like you can also do B+3,3 if you're close enough after the B+2.
Get a long knockdown in the corner, easiest being F+1,2. Quickly Klone and slide. You sandwich the opponent and they get up into the Klone. I'm calling it "Quarks Corner Klone Crossover".
F12 isn't hard knockdown. It can be tech rolled. It just has a long splat.
Ah you're right, good catch, meant to say long knockdown.
