Opinion on the what the current tiers look like

[RYX]

I think we should replace Goro with Grum

tier list seems about right tho

 

[protools27]

Yeah I do have to admit making a good tier list by variation would be a serious pain in the butt to do...any volunteers?

Oh trust me, give it a bit and someone will make one. As time goes on more and more people get tier list happy lol

 

[ColdBoreMK23]

I'd put Jax in S tier. He doesn't have a bad variation, has great mix ups, good zoning, hella good midscreen damage, great anti air with his gotcha.

 

[AssassiN]

Not sure whether to say that Liu is too low or agree and try to get Liu buffed to top.

 

[diamond]

Kenshi S?
Kung Lao A?
Ferra/Torr B?

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

The characters as a package are all so close to each other that its all just one tier, and nothings more obvious than which variations are strongest.

 

[ATP2014]

So to clarify, you no longer think Reptile is potentially top 10.

 

[protools27]

Someone more knowledgable than me should take a crack at a variations tier list, I mean am I wrong in thinking that while D'Vorah is quite strong her brood mother variation is not as good as the other two? I'm sure a list that comprehensive would need multiple top players working on it together but it would be neat, a well thought out list could help new players select a character that gives them the best chance to win early on, if that's the route they choose.event hubs tier list sucks IMO

Yea eventhubs tier list is straight garbage. A new player need only to watch a small bit of tourney footage to know the best variations. "Hey I've seen 6 Kung Jins and they all use Bojitsu, I think I'll try that one"

 

[Linkuei82]

I can't agree with some of the placement in the tier list. For example, Jax, Kung Lao, Cage, and a few others seems low. I don't think Kenshi is S tier more likely A.

To be honest, I think we still should just play and flesh the game out. I think a tier list should come about after the final patch is released.

 

[LEGEND]

Don't know if it's just me or what, but low poking Jax seems to stop alot of his attacks clean in their track. Probably the main reason.

Terrible risk/reward on trying to poke out of Jax pressure in heavy weapons, and he can hit confirm his counterpokes.

Other variations have to comment to Dp n stuff outside of setups to make their poke wiff. Poking vs Jax is always hella risky

 

[Jaku2011]

Ferra/Torr Bottom 5 thread please.

 

[BloodyNights]

Terrible risk/reward on trying to poke out of Jax pressure in heavy weapons, and he can hit confirm his counterpokes.

Other variations have to comment to Dp n stuff outside of setups to make their poke wiff. Poking vs Jax is always hella risky

Well it's just what I do man, not everyone has a D4 as good as Scorpion's. I haven't fought a Jax that made me feel like he was just super op number 1 status of the game yet. As most of his offensive tools seem to have small holes in them at least on start up. They are good, but very rarely am I just overwhelmed like I'll get when I'm fighting Raiden for example and he has me in the corner doing 50/50 option selects and what not.

 

[scarsunseen]

I think Sonya and D'Vorah should be switched.

 

[PPJ]

realized i didn't post the same list as my status update, updated lol

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

Well I guess I'm sitting pretty with Quan and D'vorah at my side.

 

[juicepouch]

#lowtierhero

#buffgoro2k15

 

[Derptile]

Kenshi is S tier and Shinnok is A tier. Otherwise everything else looks fine

 

[MadPropz101]

Sub Zero is AT LEAST S tier, Liu Kang A tier, Kung Lao S tier for sure lol.

 

[PPJ]

S+ TIER

D'vorah: Has everything and much more. Swarm Queen f112 bugcancel is a guaranteed 50/50. Insane damage and footsies. Insane uppercut. Only real "weaknesses" are no true safe blockstrings in Venomous/Brood Mother, and her EX Ass is a pretty piss poor armored move/reversal/wakeup.
Swarm Queen > Brood Mother > Venomous

Raiden: f1 nerf..... wasn't enough for Thunder God. Safe option select corner carry vortexes..... okie dokie. Access to like 4 or 5 armored wakeups which makes pressuring him on wakeup difficult. Displacer is usable but sorta outclassed. Master of Storms is underexplored. F+2,2+4 in Displacer/Master of Storms is actually better than the Thunder God version.
Thunder God > Master Of Storms > Displacer

Erron Black: Best grappler in the game. 50/50's, +frames, and tick throws galore. Don't get cornered by him. Great post knockdown game in Outlaw. Great pressure, decent zoning, and pseudo-safe blockstrings into rifle swing in Marksman (gaps in alot if not all?). Gunslinger... has the hat, but base Erron Black is a great character so adding the Standoff Stance + Coins wouldn't hurt at all. F+4 is awesome.
Outlaw = Marksman > Gunslinger

 

[Immortal]

Kenshi is S tier and Shinnok is A tier. Otherwise everything else looks fine

He was in S tier at first. Pimpimjim moved him down after a while. Like i said at the start of this topic. Kenshi is top 10 @GGA pimpimjim.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

The one time you don't troll and I actually agree with you. You must be some type of genius.

 

[Zoidberg747]

I agree on Kenshi placement.

One thing that wonders me is quite low place for Kung Lao, imo he should be higher based on what is lately happening with his Tempest variation. Rest looks solid.

People still arent armoring through strings into orbiting hat. That makes the MU much more bearable.

But I still think he could be in S tier at the end of the day.

 

[lm Tweakk]

Imo hellfire scorpion needs to be higher , in erron blacks place

 

[skater11]

Nice.

 

[Big Pampering]

People still arent armoring through strings into orbiting hat. That makes the MU much more bearable.

But I still think he could be in S tier at the end of the day.

Only cassie can punish b321 ex hat spin. Others can armor in between only to get their move blocked and punished anyway. 112124ex hat spin b32 ex hat spin and b321ex hat spin are the only blockstrings that should be used. People are letting lao get away with a lot of shit now though.