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[Tier List] Pig of The Hut Official Living Tier List

Peckapowa

Champion
Yea because its early. Liu is nothing but gimmicks and only good to a player who either has bad defense (including counter poking and footsies) or just a scrub. Liu takes too many risks on the offensive imo.

Dragon fire is barely an exception due to the fire cancels but that is about it.

Yea im down playing but someone has to.
Flame fist and dualist blow. Only dragons fire is good. I hear curbs is a beast.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
I agree with Pig's list except i would probably switch D'vorah with Kung Jin. He is still pretty solid. D'vorah is top 10 material for sure though as well.
Lol

Swarm Queen Dvorah is probably like the second best character in the Game behind Raiden. She is ridiculous, and this is coming from a Dvorah main.

Kung Jin is really good too but nowhere near her level. IMO
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
For those who posted about saying liu kang is top 10...



DIE SLOW!!!

We liu players are the kings of gimmicks with decent zoning sprinkled with a tad bit of great footsies.

Wait a sec...
I agree w u he is ass cheeks most likely
 

Peckapowa

Champion
Yea because its early. Liu is nothing but gimmicks and only good to a player who either has bad defense (including counter poking and footsies) or just a scrub. Liu takes too many risks on the offensive imo.

Dragon fire is barely an exception due to the fire cancels but that is about it.

Yea im down playing but someone has to.

I suppose he does have to rely on reading pokes and what not. He doesn't yield big dividends with his mixups compared to other chars. Maybe you and pig are right. I just hear curbo is pretty ridiculous.
 

JDE

Pick up & kill it & kill it & kill it!
Hellfire scorpion is far superior. Inferno has shit zoning and worst mixups( due to the fact that hellfire can combo off the low by run cancelling safely). Maybe a bit better counterzoning, which hellfire is already fantastic at, also hellfire and fball cancels are better neutral game controls. Hellfire also gets as much damage from bobs due to chip and the aura. Hell fires pressure is far superior (due to run cancels) , and there's no addition to the footsie game.

Inferno doesn't add much. Now ninjutsu adds some better normals, about it.
No, it doesn't. If you're out in space, he can manipulate you in any way that he chooses. If you choose to use a low, you're getting hit by his minion overhead. He even has the same overhead in both hellfire AND inferno for a knockdown. You also have to respect his minion charge & minion grab. In theory, it may be bad, but that damn variation is very well-balanced. He also gets good oki from this variation the same way that he does with hellfire except hellfire has more damage & more consequences. And even if you're blocking, he can run in & go on the attack which is what he wants you to do. Hellfire I think is stronger, but inferno is very good.
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
For those who posted about saying liu kang is top 10...



DIE SLOW!!!

We liu players are the kings of gimmicks with decent zoning sprinkled with a tad bit of great footsies.

Wait a sec...
Posts like this, to me are proof that people will complain no matter what, and blame the games balance instead of their own mistakes.
 

Peckapowa

Champion
No, it doesn't. If you're out in space, he can manipulate you in any way that he chooses. If you choose to use a low, you're getting hit by his minion overhead. He even has the same overhead in both hellfire AND inferno for a knockdown. You also have to respect his minion charge & minion grab. In theory, it may be bad, but that damn variation is very well-balanced. And even if you're blocking, he can run in & go on the attack which is what he wants you to do.
Ehh it's fairly weak imo, it's so - and reactable. I just think hellfire is much better.

Hellfire is the one without consequences. It makes mixups safe.
 

EMPR_MURK

Warrior
I suppose he does have to rely on reading pokes and what not. He doesn't yield big dividends with his mixups compared to other chars. Maybe you and pig are right. I just hear curbo is pretty ridiculous.
You put liu up against a character who builds meter at a decent pace thn he is fucked. Armor blows up his offense and its even worse if they get him on KD...with his only real viable wake ups being db2 or flying kick (in which both are only good on a read). I love my character but i love the obvious even more.
 

EMPR_MURK

Warrior
Posts like this, to me are proof that people will complain no matter what, and blame the games balance instead of their own mistakes.
First, i love mkx!

Secondly, as i stated before, if liu is giving you that much of a problem thn maybe you need to invest in some skills cupcake. A player doesn't have to main a top tier character to know HIS/HER characters spot on a tier list imo.
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
First, i love mkx!

Secondly, as i stated before, if liu is giving you that much of a problem thn maybe you need to invest in some skills cupcake. A player doesn't have to main a top tier character to know HIS/HER characters spot on a tier list imo.
I'd suggest you invest a little heavier into comprehension, friend. I didn't say that he's giving me trouble at all that's just your baseless projection, I just said you are another whinger. Liu Kang is in a really good spot as far as balance goes.
 

EMPR_MURK

Warrior
I didn't say that he's giving me trouble, I just said you are another whinger. Liu Kang is in a really good spot.
He can be in a good spot...but that doesn't make him top 10. I said I'll place him in top 15.

And also a whine would be a displeased opinion on something. I said no complaints on liu

You got to come harder thn that my guy.

"I got cupcakes"...lol
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
I've seen people claim that Dragon Fire Liu Kang is nearly top tier. Would like elaboration on that. Not skeptical, because I don't know shit. Just curious.
I dunno, all of Liu's variations have good potential going for them IMO. I don't blame Pig himself for being apprehensive about where he sits.
 

ShaolinGunFu

Warrior
The whole variation factor is kinda of a moot when it's obvious everyone will just stick to one variation and maybe a second for some mus. The tier list should be ranked as best variation. I see some people say this game has like 70 characters but thats kind of a joke.
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You have a point, but I think the most helpful way to list the characters is to view them as a package, because there are exceptions where a character has 2-3 viable variations that all have different MUs each, that makes the character stronger as a package to have as a main. Sub Zero for instance has 3 viable variations which pick up where the others leave off. Then we have chars that have 3 shit variations like kenshi, which is why he does suck
 

Derptile

RIP Ex Smash
In no particular order

Top 5: Kung Jin, Raiden, Bug Lady, Scorpion, Quan Cheese.
Top 10: Mr. Freeze, Erron Black, Jax, Sonya, Kung lao.
Strong tournament characters: Ermac, Cassie, Johnny Cage, Liu Kang*(might just be a decent tournament character), Takeda
Decent tournament characters: Ferra Tor, Mileena, Reptile, Kano, Blood God Kotal Kahn.
Whatevers: Kenshi, Kitana, Jacquie.

Not enough exp: Shinnok and Goro.
 

Breakin Wordzz

Best Rengar NA, also ares of world
ok so the mods said that they dont want a tier list for at least 3 months after the game is released. all other threads about tier list have been closed. so im assuming all the mods are off right now. if the mods are on and have seen this thread. i give up on tym because this is the most corrupt bs site i have ever seen in my life. like holy fucking shit. why hasnt this been closed yet?
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
He can be in a good spot...but that doesn't make him top 10. I said I'll place him in top 15.

And also a whine would be a displeased opinion on something. I said no complaints on liu

You got to come harder thn that my guy.

"I got cupcakes"...lol
I don't know, but the way you said

For those who posted about saying liu kang is top 10...



DIE SLOW!!!

We liu players are the kings of gimmicks with decent zoning sprinkled with a tad bit of great footsies.
The vehement disagreement for beginners suggests that you feel he is at the bottom of the cast, and the whole post reads like you are complaining about him being underpowered / whinging.



You definitely can be in a good spot, without being in the top 10. But you tell me which one you were complaining about. You can backpedal all you like, but it's pretty clear you weren't saying "Liu is in a good spot"in any way shape or form lol
 

lionheart21

Its Game Over, Man
Erron as mid-top tier. I can believe that.

Makes me wonder though what he believes are the best/worst variations on the roster.
 
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