Strategy - Kitana Kitana General Discussion/Strategies

[WakeUp DP]

i think making her fans hit mid would be a stupid idea

let's not compare her to sub-zero and jin though, come on she probably does need buffs

Week 3 into the game? Yeah... NO!

 

[FinalBoss_FGC]

plz buff Kung Jin's fireball.

He needs it.

Otherwise it's just "pretty good" at punishing jumpers...

I need it to be best in game.




Mid-hitting fans is ridiculous.
Mid-hitting Kano daggers is ridiculous.


All projectiles should be duckable, no matter the speed

 

[RYX]

Week 3 into the game? Yeah... NO!

what, do you want to wait until she's ass for a year?

it's pretty obvious when characters are lacking and 3 weeks is plenty of time to identify the most glaring flaws in someone's move-set.

edit: "all projectiles should be duckable" is an equally dumb philosophy

 

[RexxyC]

i think making her fans hit mid would be a stupid idea

let's not compare her to sub-zero and jin though, come on she probably does need buffs

I'm not saying that that in particular was a good idea, i'm just saying that when people come in joking about other characters needing buffs; they often haven't played the character who's forum they are on.

 

[RexxyC]

what, do you want to wait until she's ass for a year?

it's pretty obvious when characters are lacking and 3 weeks is plenty of time to identify the most glaring flaws in someone's move-set.

edit: "all projectiles should be duckable" is an equally dumb philosophy

this

 

[FinalBoss_FGC]

what, do you want to wait until she's ass for a year?

it's pretty obvious when characters are lacking and 3 weeks is plenty of time to identify the most glaring flaws in someone's move-set.

edit: "all projectiles should be duckable" is an equally dumb philosophy

you say that, but do you mean it? I shouldn't have to take chip and only get in one step. Kitana's fans are so fast. And then when I think "ohh, I'm getting close, I'll take one step and then be able to jump in". NOPE, flying booty. Back to full screen.

 

[RexxyC]

you say that, but do you mean it? I shouldn't have to take chip and only get in one step. Kitana's fans are so fast. And then when I think "ohh, I'm getting close, I'll take one step and then be able to jump in". NOPE, flying booty. Back to full screen.

this is where this argument falls apart. not all variations have flying booty. she needs tools to her basic move-set, not all of us play Royal Storm.

 

[RYX]

you say that, but do you mean it? I shouldn't have to take chip and only get in one step. Kitana's fans are so fast. And then when I think "ohh, I'm getting close, I'll take one step and then be able to jump in". NOPE, flying booty. Back to full screen.

You didn't say just Kitana, you said everyone, when there are projectiles that completely rely on NOT being duckable to have screen pressure

I'm not saying that that in particular was a good idea, i'm just saying that when people come in joking about other characters needing buffs; they often haven't played the character who's forum they are on.

i understand that there are characters who need help (personal bias Kotal Kahn needs it bad) but I don't agree with the suggestions offered as someone who already struggles vs her. Especially when people think it should be mid AND be safe at point blank, that's where I draw the line

 

[FinalBoss_FGC]

this is where this argument falls apart. not all variations have flying booty. she needs tools to her basic move-set, not all of us play Royal Storm.

Sorry.
Do your running stabby to the face move.
Fans can bait the hell out of people cuz it's so frustrating.

You didn't say just Kitana, you said everyone, when there are projectiles that completely rely on NOT being duckable to have screen pressure

If Kung Jin has a projectile that's duckable, everybody should...he needs it
Kappa

 

[RexxyC]

You didn't say just Kitana, you said everyone, when there are projectiles that completely rely on NOT being duckable to have screen pressure


i understand that there are characters who need help (personal bias Kotal Kahn needs it bad) but I don't agree with the suggestions offered as someone who already struggles vs her. Especially when people think it should be mid AND be safe at point blank, that's where I draw the line

I think we've had a misunderstanding, I don't agree with what he said. I think she needs buffs, but not what he suggested. He probably played her for a max of 3 hours and dropped her. These fans should not be a mid, they are good enough.

 

[shaowebb]

Myself and plenty of other kitana players already have an organized thread planned for after the Jason patch.

Trust me, IT'S DETAILED.

 

[RexxyC]

Sorry.
Do your running stabby to the face move.
Fans can bait the hell out of people cuz it's so frustrating.


If Kung Jin has a projectile that's duckable, everybody should...he needs it
Kappa

Assassin Strike gets blown the hell up, it's only safe on EX during the startup. The armor doesn't even protect her from projectiles otherwise.

 

[Jimmypotato]

Myself and plenty of other kitana players already have an organized thread planned for after the Jason patch.

Trust me, IT'S DETAILED.

Wait, you know whats coming in the Jason patch? Or you are just assuming there won't be much touched? I don't think there will be much balance changes until the second DLC.

 

[RunwayMafia]

Wait, you know whats coming in the Jason patch? Or you are just assuming there won't be much touched? I don't think there will be much balance changes until the second DLC.

Yeah Paulo or whoever announced that there will be "very little" balance changes in the Jason patch. I'm assuming there will be nothing for her in this one. Lol.

You'll be included in all of this.

 

[WakeUp DP]

what, do you want to wait until she's ass for a year?

it's pretty obvious when characters are lacking and 3 weeks is plenty of time to identify the most glaring flaws in someone's move-set.

edit: "all projectiles should be duckable" is an equally dumb philosophy

It took Kenshi what? About 6months for this famous Diva to show his main char's true potential.....

 

[Blind_Ducky]

@CoRzz Jin running between projectiles means you're blocking like at most 3 before you're in jump range. So what if Kitana does ass or run? They're both full combo punishable on block. Kitana sucks. Sorry but the "it's too early" argument is being taken too literally. It's pretty obvious who the top tiers are and who the shitters are.

 

[RYX]

It took Kenshi what? About 6months for this famous Diva to show his main char's true potential.....

Kenshi had armor on every EX move and was +8 on block with EX shoulder, not to mention was massively safer than he is now just by frame data. This isn't even mentioning the fact that run exists in MKX or that there are a ton of fast advancing moves on a lot of them

It's a really bad comparison, lol

 

[WakeUp DP]

Kenshi had armor on every EX move and was +8 on block with EX shoulder, not to mention was massively safer than he is now just by frame data. This isn't even mentioning the fact that run exists in MKX or that there are a ton of fast advancing moves on a lot of them

It's a really bad comparison, lol

What that spoiled narcissistic diva and you fail to realize is that this isnt MK9, this is MKX the whole meta is different.
Kenshi does not need to have all those gallons of safe super armored moves which are advantage on block and launch on hit... In order to be viable!

 

[Xero_18]

In thar situation you kinda have to force them to respect all 29 of those slow ass frames. Do it at a distance where you're relati.... ah who am I kidding that shit ain't safe, you have to force them to respect it and then mix in your low. Only problem though is with the exception of B14 it's just going to reset the situation

 

[TarkatanDentist]

plz buff Kung Jin's fireball.

He needs it.

Otherwise it's just "pretty good" at punishing jumpers...

I need it to be best in game.




Mid-hitting fans is ridiculous.
Mid-hitting Kano daggers is ridiculous.


All projectiles should be duckable, no matter the speed

While I agree that mid-hitting fans would be a really bad idea (fans are fine as they are now), it's equally silly to say that all projectiles should be duckable.

Also I realise that in terms of stuff about Kitana that needs changing, this is probably pretty low priority, but even so, why does her db2 only do ~7% damage? With how risky it is, it should be doing at least 10%...

 

[kabelfritz]

make kanos command throws connect on block and hit after every string and popup if meterburned

 

[astronout]

Can we change the name of the thread to "KITANA NEEDS THE BANE TREATMENT"?

 

[Xero_18]

let me guess, Kitana players are downplaying?

Or you know she really is that bad

are you kidding me ? kitana is for sure a top tier. Fans recover is very fast on the ground even in assassin variation. This girl is fking hard to punish, her aoe fans just touche the guy even behind kitana, dat fat is very safe on block and safe on whife. Can D1 on block and then anti air fan and if someone try to punish her D1 on block he just take full combo and all kitana's combos do a lot of damage even from full screen. Many of my fiends play her and it's the most op character that i fight till today. So only a think she needs it's a nerf

Just stop you don't know what you're talking about.

you say that, but do you mean it? I shouldn't have to take chip and only get in one step. Kitana's fans are so fast. And then when I think "ohh, I'm getting close, I'll take one step and then be able to jump in". NOPE, flying booty. Back to full screen.

If they air booty its punishable on landing by 63 frames. If you block it's 32 frames... stop being predictable

You didn't say just Kitana, you said everyone, when there are projectiles that completely rely on NOT being duckable to have screen pressure


i understand that there are characters who need help (personal bias Kotal Kahn needs it bad) but I don't agree with the suggestions offered as someone who already struggles vs her. Especially when people think it should be mid AND be safe at point blank, that's where I draw the line

You ever think to duck? Fans aren't that good.

Sorry.
Do your running stabby to the face move.
Fans can bait the hell out of people cuz it's so frustrating.


If Kung Jin has a projectile that's duckable, everybody should...he needs it
Kappa

Punishable...

I think we've had a misunderstanding, I don't agree with what he said. I think she needs buffs, but not what he suggested. He probably played her for a max of 3 hours and dropped her. These fans should not be a mid, they are good enough.

You must not play Kitana.

I mean really everyone in here saying fans are annoying sounds like they are very impatient and lack ground control. All you have to do is take out one type of fan and that's the ground version. The other one is high as well so you people should probably duck run duck punish... just saying

 

[RYX]

You ever think to duck? Fans aren't that good.

see, this is downplay. Fans are good; have you played versus Kotal Kahn? he struggles in the match up even if they hit high.

 

[DevilMaySpy]

are you kidding me ? kitana is for sure a top tier. Many of my fiends play her and it's the most op character that i fight till today. So only a think she needs it's a nerf