NRS.. PLEASE fix the input drop bug!!!

[Kweli]

Interesting... I noticed that some jump punches dont register... and like someone mentioned... blocking some ice balls seem to not work a millisecond before contact

 

[1man3letters]

Is it just me, or has the glitch seem to have gotten worse post-patch? Or perhaps I'm just playing too quickly now? None the less, I'm tired of it.

oh god please tell me it doesnt get worse!

yea it is pretty soul crushing to lose because the game made the mistake and not you

 

[funkdoc]

I'm thinking more and more that crouching Kabal getting hit by ice blast wasn't an input issue but a hitbox one. This game's crouching hitboxes in general are all kinds of fucked up - for example look at this here Kano thread:

http://testyourmight.com/forum/showthread.php?12173-List-of-characters-who-can-crouch-crouch-block-under-f-1-amp-f-11&p=184228#post184228

What I hadn't mentioned there is that Kabal has the largest crouching hitbox after Sheeva, and he moves up and down quite noticeably during it. I'd guess the projectile issues are related to that.

Sektor is especially strange: projectiles whiff when he's crouching and connect when he's crouch blocking, yet certain moves like Kano's f+1 will connect on crouch but whiff on crouch block.

There should probably be a separate thread for this but I'm not sure how likely any of this is to be changed...

 

[Shadowfire]

Is it just me, or has the glitch seem to have gotten worse post-patch? Or perhaps I'm just playing too quickly now? None the less, I'm tired of it.

I've picked up Kabal post-patch. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he has the game's highest APM and I have not gotten the bug yet, online or off.

Tom Brady made a video months ago. It happens to me all the time...

Got a link?

 

[DanCock]

Weird I have picked up scorpion and this happens a lot when I try the down 4. Kind of annoying. Dont notice it at all when I'm sindel.


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[catch22]

I've picked up Kabal post-patch. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he has the game's highest APM and I have not gotten the bug yet, online or off.



Got a link?

i think is this one.

its worth nothing, that i tried my best to recreate this bug, but the 30 minutes, and thats 30 long boring minutes trying, it wasnt happening lol, at least with smoke it didnt happen.

 

[RoGE]

Maybe this bug happens more frequently when playing 2 player?

 

[Shadowfire]

i think is this one.

its worth nothing, that i tried my best to recreate this bug, but the 30 minutes, and thats 30 long boring minutes trying, it wasnt happening lol, at least with smoke it didnt happen.

That looks to me like failing to take into account the frame or two it takes to duck. Every time he did it unsuccessfully he was pressing them at exactly the same time. I don't see a bug.

Also keep in mind Tom has called things bugs before which in fact weren't. Remember that tournament where his X-ray got stuffed and he was convinced it was a glitch, when really he just had no health left so his armour didn't matter?

 

[ddrfr33k]

I've been practicing my Kabal gameplay in training mode, specifically Mutilation into Tornado Slam: +, , into , , . I'm noticing that my + rarely registers as such. Rather, I just get the straight up , which usually means MK sees , , . This doesn't transition well into , , very nicely, nor does it help me with wanting to train my skills.

I'm also having trouble with my Ts hitting when I want it to, if at all. More often than not, it'd just register an uppercut, and whiff in the process. I'm on 360, btw.

 

[aj1701]

That looks to me like failing to take into account the frame or two it takes to duck. Every time he did it unsuccessfully he was pressing them at exactly the same time. I don't see a bug.

I could be wrong, but I believe in other MK games pressing both at the same time consistently worked, which could explain why so many people are expecting the same here. Like in MK2 I think you could instant uppercut (the AI certainly does it lol).

 

[Shadowfire]

I could be wrong, but I believe in other MK games pressing both at the same time consistently worked, which could explain why so many people are expecting the same here. Like in MK2 I think you could instant uppercut (the AI certainly does it lol).

Maybe this MK is an exception then. I've always treated uppercuts as a normal that you perform while crouching, not as a normal with the input d+2. Maybe that's why the so-called input bug never seems to happen to me.

 

[shura30]

I was using Kabal when this was happening. If anyone could recreate Sub-Zero's ice blast hitting Kabal while he is crouching (at a specific frame) it would put this issue to rest.

try also kabal's 2,1 against enyone else's crouch block (beside reptile)

sometime it will whiff sometime it will chip

i'm also sure that reptile can also 'animation duck' perfect iaGBs while standing or while blocking

 

[Sasuga]

Maybe this MK is an exception then. I've always treated uppercuts as a normal that you perform while crouching, not as a normal with the input d+2. Maybe that's why the so-called input bug never seems to happen to me.

I'm sure it is not a bug. Hitting a button while your character is in going-into-crouch animation makes it seem as if input is dropped. They made instant uppercut possible but it requires somewhat stricter input.

 

[TakeAChance]

I use an arcade stick (TE Stick) and let me tell you..this happens A LOT with sticks. Even in practice. I can see on the left side of the screen that I inputted the correct motion and buttons but i get a standing fail. I could make a crappy blair witch video demonstrating it, but I can assure you it exists. Someone else grab a stick and go to training and practice your inputs. It will happen sooner then you think. Pay careful attention to your inputs on the left side.

 

[PEGGY]

no no NO!!!

anyone defending this has failed to address 1 BIG point. all of this "maybe you cant" "possible when you.." NO!! fact is you can be HOLDING DOWN then press 1 and get a stand jab. this kills any theory of maybe if you are moving, or maybe if you try the attack while entering crouch frames, etc. you can just be holding down and press any button and get a stand attack as if you were never holding down and already in crouch to start.

the only explanation is its a bug that randomly causes the input to drop.

 

[Slips]

The input bug is the worst thing about MK9, I hope it gets fixed for real, its terrible. Trying to d+1 and getting a standing one has cost me countless rounds. Or trying d+4 and getting standing 4 is even worse.

 

[catch22]

That looks to me like failing to take into account the frame or two it takes to duck. Every time he did it unsuccessfully he was pressing them at exactly the same time. I don't see a bug.

thats exactly how i see it too, i tried just now for kicks and giggles, still no bug, i would press down and the the corresponding button and nothing happens. I this is a case of having to slow down a bit while doing said attacks.

i just dont see it, and i have tried now close to an hour.

 

[16 Bit]

I NEVER want to use Kitana's standing 1. I literally have no use for it. Now watch match vids and see how often I do it. This glitch is real and a big problem.

 

[catch22]

I NEVER want to use Kitana's standing 1. I literally have no use for it. Now watch match vids and see how often I do it. This glitch is real and a big problem.

hmmm, maybe so, i personally, ive tried and tried lol
and still same results.

now i am starting to think that i want this to happen to me lol
am sorry, dont mean to discredit anyone, just does not happens to me

 

[Robotic]

Ive posted this a few times before, but try going into practice mode. Press up as fast as you can. If done correctly, the input will appear on screen and you will not jump. try doing d1 while pressing down as fast as possible. the down will show on the input, but if done fast enough, you will get a standing 1.

Again, if done correctly, you can replicate this 100% of the time. I don't know if this has anything to do with the input bug, but something to consider as it may well be.

 

[catch22]

Ive posted this a few times before, but try going into practice mode. Press up as fast as you can. If done correctly, the input will appear on screen and you will not jump. try doing d1 while pressing down as fast as possible. the down will show on the input, but if done fast enough, you will get a standing 1.

Again, if done correctly, you can replicate this 100% of the time. I don't know if this has anything to do with the input bug, but something to consider as it may well be.

i do lol
i press down 1st and then 1, and i do it really fast, still nothing

 

[Robotic]

i do lol
i press down 1st and then 1, and i do it really fast, still nothing

Try rolling up a dollar bill, break out your credit card and a cd case, chop some shit up, introduce your nostrils to some A1 Yola, THEN try it you need to tap that shit super quick like a hummingbird in coitus.

 

[catch22]

Try rolling up a dollar bill, break out your credit card and a cd case, chop some shit up, introduce your nostrils to some A1 Yola, THEN try it you need to tap that shit super quick like a hummingbird in coitus.

LOL xD

but seriously....why? i dont need to tap that shit faster than what i do atm, as it never happens to me at all.
i know mk2 when you pressed d+2 at the same time, you would get the uppercut, but thats mk2.
so i dont know if people are just to used to that or what.

again, am not trying to discredit people in the community, i just dont see it, wish i did, but i dont

A1 Yola FTW LMFAO

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

The funny part is... I can't really replicate it when i WANT to in training mode. But it happens ALL the time when I let the CPU take over. Battle the CPU for awhile just trying to d1 or d4 them... when you start trying to be quick and read the cpu... you'll get the input bug.

hell... the easiest way is to just have someone duck and have sub throw ice balls. Eventually you'll get a frozen ducking opponent.

 

[Shadowfire]

no no NO!!!

anyone defending this has failed to address 1 BIG point. all of this "maybe you cant" "possible when you.." NO!! fact is you can be HOLDING DOWN then press 1 and get a stand jab. this kills any theory of maybe if you are moving, or maybe if you try the attack while entering crouch frames, etc. you can just be holding down and press any button and get a stand attack as if you were never holding down and already in crouch to start.

Before you throw a chair, consider this; Your character does a move and returns to a neutral state. You're holding down this entire time. As soon as you return to neutral, you press 2 for an uppercut, except your character hasn't had time to duck yet. There you go, standing 2.

Record a video showing someone unmistakably doing a standing normal while crouching and I will eat my words.

hell... the easiest way is to just have someone duck and have sub throw ice balls. Eventually you'll get a frozen ducking opponent.

Again that's an unrelated issue due to some hitbox height inconsistencies. If it was the input bug you'd see characters just popping into standing then going back to crouch randomly, and I haven't heard a single report of that.